超级军网美《国防新闻》:大陆售伊朗歼10 对抗美售台F-16
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http://realtime.zaobao.com/2007/01/070117_10.html
新加坡联合早报
（综合讯）中广新闻消息，最新一期的美国《国防新闻》周刊报道说，为了反制美国出售更先进的战机给台湾，大陆出售「歼十」战机给伊朗。
大陆官方媒体在去年底大规模介绍自行研制的「歼十战机」，包括发射飞弹、空中加油等。今天出版的美国《国防新闻》周刊报道说，大陆研发这种多性能战机已经十年，但是外界所知仍然有限。
目前已知它可以挂载四千五百公斤的各型弹药，续航范围两千九百公里，机身下方有五个挂载架，两翼下各有三个挂载架，配置多性能的1453雷达。报道指，大陆生产歼十，目的之一是要在国际市场上与美国的F-16、俄罗斯的米格29一较高下。
因为一架F-16大约要美金六千万元，米格29也不便宜，可是一架歼十只要美金二千五百万到四千万元之间，在价格上具有很强的竞争力。大陆已经表示，有意出售这种战机给伊朗。
众所周知，伊朗是美国布什政府目前最头痛的国家之一，所以美国不愿意见到任何国家提供军备给伊朗。而大陆的算盘是，若美国不想让大陆卖「歼十」给伊朗，那么美国就不要卖F-16C/D给台湾。http://realtime.zaobao.com/2007/01/070117_10.html
新加坡联合早报
（综合讯）中广新闻消息，最新一期的美国《国防新闻》周刊报道说，为了反制美国出售更先进的战机给台湾，大陆出售「歼十」战机给伊朗。
大陆官方媒体在去年底大规模介绍自行研制的「歼十战机」，包括发射飞弹、空中加油等。今天出版的美国《国防新闻》周刊报道说，大陆研发这种多性能战机已经十年，但是外界所知仍然有限。
目前已知它可以挂载四千五百公斤的各型弹药，续航范围两千九百公里，机身下方有五个挂载架，两翼下各有三个挂载架，配置多性能的1453雷达。报道指，大陆生产歼十，目的之一是要在国际市场上与美国的F-16、俄罗斯的米格29一较高下。
因为一架F-16大约要美金六千万元，米格29也不便宜，可是一架歼十只要美金二千五百万到四千万元之间，在价格上具有很强的竞争力。大陆已经表示，有意出售这种战机给伊朗。
众所周知，伊朗是美国布什政府目前最头痛的国家之一，所以美国不愿意见到任何国家提供军备给伊朗。而大陆的算盘是，若美国不想让大陆卖「歼十」给伊朗，那么美国就不要卖F-16C/D给台湾。
新加坡联合早报
（综合讯）中广新闻消息，最新一期的美国《国防新闻》周刊报道说，为了反制美国出售更先进的战机给台湾，大陆出售「歼十」战机给伊朗。
大陆官方媒体在去年底大规模介绍自行研制的「歼十战机」，包括发射飞弹、空中加油等。今天出版的美国《国防新闻》周刊报道说，大陆研发这种多性能战机已经十年，但是外界所知仍然有限。
目前已知它可以挂载四千五百公斤的各型弹药，续航范围两千九百公里，机身下方有五个挂载架，两翼下各有三个挂载架，配置多性能的1453雷达。报道指，大陆生产歼十，目的之一是要在国际市场上与美国的F-16、俄罗斯的米格29一较高下。
因为一架F-16大约要美金六千万元，米格29也不便宜，可是一架歼十只要美金二千五百万到四千万元之间，在价格上具有很强的竞争力。大陆已经表示，有意出售这种战机给伊朗。
众所周知，伊朗是美国布什政府目前最头痛的国家之一，所以美国不愿意见到任何国家提供军备给伊朗。而大陆的算盘是，若美国不想让大陆卖「歼十」给伊朗，那么美国就不要卖F-16C/D给台湾。http://realtime.zaobao.com/2007/01/070117_10.html
新加坡联合早报
（综合讯）中广新闻消息，最新一期的美国《国防新闻》周刊报道说，为了反制美国出售更先进的战机给台湾，大陆出售「歼十」战机给伊朗。
大陆官方媒体在去年底大规模介绍自行研制的「歼十战机」，包括发射飞弹、空中加油等。今天出版的美国《国防新闻》周刊报道说，大陆研发这种多性能战机已经十年，但是外界所知仍然有限。
目前已知它可以挂载四千五百公斤的各型弹药，续航范围两千九百公里，机身下方有五个挂载架，两翼下各有三个挂载架，配置多性能的1453雷达。报道指，大陆生产歼十，目的之一是要在国际市场上与美国的F-16、俄罗斯的米格29一较高下。
因为一架F-16大约要美金六千万元，米格29也不便宜，可是一架歼十只要美金二千五百万到四千万元之间，在价格上具有很强的竞争力。大陆已经表示，有意出售这种战机给伊朗。
众所周知，伊朗是美国布什政府目前最头痛的国家之一，所以美国不愿意见到任何国家提供军备给伊朗。而大陆的算盘是，若美国不想让大陆卖「歼十」给伊朗，那么美国就不要卖F-16C/D给台湾。
美国人才是制造假新闻的祖宗
:o 我们自己装备都还来不及呢
搭便车骗稿费和口水的人还是这么多:D :D
原帖由 nebraska 于 2007-1-17 12:41 发表
搭便车骗稿费和口水的人还是这么多:D :D
有道理啊;P
中国还巴不得美国卖F22给台湾呢，卖了早晚是俺们的:D
China’s Mysterious J-10: A Market Rival To F-16, MiG-29?
By WENDELL MINNICK, TAIPEI
Six days after Chinese officials unveiled the Jian-10 (J-10) multirole fighter in Beijing, much remains secret about the aircraft’s capabilities and its future.
But observers say China intends to offer the jet for export as a cheaper competitor to the F-16 and MiG-29.
“We all start from the premise that we have no official data from Chengdu Aircraft Industries about the dimensions, weights, fuel fraction, performance and radar performance of the J-10,” said Richard Fisher, vice president of the Washington-based International Assessment and Strategy Center. “The J-10 has merely been ‘acknowledged’ by the Chinese government, not ‘declassified.’ Its revelation has been an ongoing story since about 1993.”
Here’s what’s known: The aircraft is manufactured by Chengdu, a subsidiary of China Aviation Industry Corp-1. It carries one 23mm cannon within the fuselage, and has three ordnance stations under each wing and five under the fuselage. Powered by a single Russian-built AL-31FN turbofan, the J-10 can carry 4,500 kilograms of ordnance, fuel tanks and other equipment for a range of 2,900 kilometers.
Andrei Chang, founder and editor of the Hong Kong-based Kanwa Defense Review, said the J-10’s 1473 multifunction radar was developed specifically for the aircraft.
Beyond that, analysts speculate.
“The general opinion among U.S. folks who watch China’s military is that the J-10, first flight-tested over 10 years ago, is a Chinese attempt to replicate the F-16, using technology provided by Israel as the result of the canceled [at U.S. demand] Lavi fighter project,” said Bernard Cole, a China specialist at the National War College in Washington.
Some see evidence of design problems.
“The J-10 is a potpourri of built-in limitations to overcome which has taken, and may still take, much effort to correct,” said Lin Chong-pin, former Taiwan vice defense minister. “It may yet take some more time to modify them into full operational condition.”
He noted that the aircraft is deployed only at two air bases deep within Chinese territory, and not fielded on the frontiers.
Kanwa’s Chang said the aircraft has “structural design trouble and poor weapon quality.”
He said video released by Beijing “showed the J-10 still dropping traditional bombs and launching rockets. No precision-guided arms were displayed.”
Engine Switch Suggests Problem
Chang also said the manufacturer had switched engines mid-development, suggesting prob-lems with the air-intake channels.
“As a result, the section between the air-intake opening and the fuselage has to be strengthened with six reinforced ribs, making the fighter look odd and affecting its stealth performance as well,” said Chang.
So far, China has imported 154 AL-31FN engines from Russia’s Salyut Co.
Fisher compares the J-10 to a U.S. F-16 Block 40, which entered service in 1988.
“In terms of raw performance it is also very comparable to the F-16, if not slightly better in terms of maneuverability due to its canard configuration,” said Fisher.
“It appears the fuel fraction is slightly better than the F-16, though this may be offset by the less-efficient Russian engine. The J-10 also starts its service with a helmet-sighted high-off-bore sight air-to-air missile, most likely the PL-9C.”
Fisher says sketchy evidence suggests China is working on a better, stealthy version of the J-10. Dubbed the Super-10 or J-10C, the new, possibly naval variant is believed to have two thrust-vectored engines and a new radar.
Chang said the J-10 will challenge the F-16 Block 52 aircraft on the world market.
“The Chinese strongly want to sell J-10 on the foreign market; this is the reason that they are promoting it now,” he said.
He said estimates for the J-10’s cost run from $25 million to $40 million, less than the $60 million Chile recently paid for an F-16.
“If China were to combine these prices with far better market exposure, such as flying the J-10 at Le Bourget, and the logistic assurance of large numbers in the Chinese Air Force, they would start to achieve some market share at Lockheed’s and MiG’s expense,” Chang said.
Last April, Pakistan announced plans to buy 36 FC-20s — the Pakistani designation for the J-10s.
Chang suggested that Beijing will offer the J-10 to Iran, in hopes of dissuading Washington from selling more F-16s to Taiwan.
By WENDELL MINNICK, TAIPEI
Six days after Chinese officials unveiled the Jian-10 (J-10) multirole fighter in Beijing, much remains secret about the aircraft’s capabilities and its future.
But observers say China intends to offer the jet for export as a cheaper competitor to the F-16 and MiG-29.
“We all start from the premise that we have no official data from Chengdu Aircraft Industries about the dimensions, weights, fuel fraction, performance and radar performance of the J-10,” said Richard Fisher, vice president of the Washington-based International Assessment and Strategy Center. “The J-10 has merely been ‘acknowledged’ by the Chinese government, not ‘declassified.’ Its revelation has been an ongoing story since about 1993.”
Here’s what’s known: The aircraft is manufactured by Chengdu, a subsidiary of China Aviation Industry Corp-1. It carries one 23mm cannon within the fuselage, and has three ordnance stations under each wing and five under the fuselage. Powered by a single Russian-built AL-31FN turbofan, the J-10 can carry 4,500 kilograms of ordnance, fuel tanks and other equipment for a range of 2,900 kilometers.
Andrei Chang, founder and editor of the Hong Kong-based Kanwa Defense Review, said the J-10’s 1473 multifunction radar was developed specifically for the aircraft.
Beyond that, analysts speculate.
“The general opinion among U.S. folks who watch China’s military is that the J-10, first flight-tested over 10 years ago, is a Chinese attempt to replicate the F-16, using technology provided by Israel as the result of the canceled [at U.S. demand] Lavi fighter project,” said Bernard Cole, a China specialist at the National War College in Washington.
Some see evidence of design problems.
“The J-10 is a potpourri of built-in limitations to overcome which has taken, and may still take, much effort to correct,” said Lin Chong-pin, former Taiwan vice defense minister. “It may yet take some more time to modify them into full operational condition.”
He noted that the aircraft is deployed only at two air bases deep within Chinese territory, and not fielded on the frontiers.
Kanwa’s Chang said the aircraft has “structural design trouble and poor weapon quality.”
He said video released by Beijing “showed the J-10 still dropping traditional bombs and launching rockets. No precision-guided arms were displayed.”
Engine Switch Suggests Problem
Chang also said the manufacturer had switched engines mid-development, suggesting prob-lems with the air-intake channels.
“As a result, the section between the air-intake opening and the fuselage has to be strengthened with six reinforced ribs, making the fighter look odd and affecting its stealth performance as well,” said Chang.
So far, China has imported 154 AL-31FN engines from Russia’s Salyut Co.
Fisher compares the J-10 to a U.S. F-16 Block 40, which entered service in 1988.
“In terms of raw performance it is also very comparable to the F-16, if not slightly better in terms of maneuverability due to its canard configuration,” said Fisher.
“It appears the fuel fraction is slightly better than the F-16, though this may be offset by the less-efficient Russian engine. The J-10 also starts its service with a helmet-sighted high-off-bore sight air-to-air missile, most likely the PL-9C.”
Fisher says sketchy evidence suggests China is working on a better, stealthy version of the J-10. Dubbed the Super-10 or J-10C, the new, possibly naval variant is believed to have two thrust-vectored engines and a new radar.
Chang said the J-10 will challenge the F-16 Block 52 aircraft on the world market.
“The Chinese strongly want to sell J-10 on the foreign market; this is the reason that they are promoting it now,” he said.
He said estimates for the J-10’s cost run from $25 million to $40 million, less than the $60 million Chile recently paid for an F-16.
“If China were to combine these prices with far better market exposure, such as flying the J-10 at Le Bourget, and the logistic assurance of large numbers in the Chinese Air Force, they would start to achieve some market share at Lockheed’s and MiG’s expense,” Chang said.
Last April, Pakistan announced plans to buy 36 FC-20s — the Pakistani designation for the J-10s.
Chang suggested that Beijing will offer the J-10 to Iran, in hopes of dissuading Washington from selling more F-16s to Taiwan.
我说消息怎么这么奇怪,原来来源是不是中国人的PKF.唉,那就不足为奇了!
http://www.kanwa.com/mrdt/showpl.php?id=383
http://www.kanwa.com/mrdt/showpl.php?id=383
美媒：中国歼十出口伊朗可反制美售台F16
http://www.chinareviewnews.com 2007-01-17
平可夫指出，歼十将会成为中国手上的军售牌！
中评社香港1月17日电／今天出版的美国《国防新闻周刊》引述加拿大军事评论家平可夫的观点，认为歼十的频繁曝光将会挑战美国F16 Block52批次战斗机的销售市场。与此同时，由于中国已经暗示考虑向伊朗出口歼十﹐这是对美国出售F16 Block52给台湾的挑战。歼十将会成为中国手上的军售牌！
美国《国防新闻》周刊报道指出，中国官方媒体在去年底大规模介绍自行研制的歼十战机，包括发射导弹、空中加油等。但中国研发这种多性能战机已经十年，但是外界所知仍然有限。
平可夫向《国防新闻》周刊指出，歼十的设计缺陷一目瞭然。进气道的强度明显不足﹐同时武器系统依然过时﹐没有看到歼十使用精确制导弹药的图像﹐还依然使用传统炸弹和火箭弹。
但他认为，歼十的成本会比F16 Block52便宜许多﹐前者大致为2500万至4000万美元﹐而最新型F16的价格接近6000万美元。
周刊指出，中国生产歼十，目的之一是要在国际市场上与美国的F16、俄罗斯的米格29一较高下。“如果中国人把歼十送到巴黎航空展作出飞行展示﹐他们也许会获得某些海外市场﹐并且挑战米格战斗机的出口”，平可夫声称。
报道指出，伊朗是美国布什政府目前最头痛的国家之一，所以美国不愿意见到任何国家提供军备给伊朗。而中国大陆的算盘是，若美国不想让中国大陆卖歼十给伊朗，那么美国就不要卖F-16C/D给台湾。
http://www.chinareviewnews.com 2007-01-17
平可夫指出，歼十将会成为中国手上的军售牌！
中评社香港1月17日电／今天出版的美国《国防新闻周刊》引述加拿大军事评论家平可夫的观点，认为歼十的频繁曝光将会挑战美国F16 Block52批次战斗机的销售市场。与此同时，由于中国已经暗示考虑向伊朗出口歼十﹐这是对美国出售F16 Block52给台湾的挑战。歼十将会成为中国手上的军售牌！
美国《国防新闻》周刊报道指出，中国官方媒体在去年底大规模介绍自行研制的歼十战机，包括发射导弹、空中加油等。但中国研发这种多性能战机已经十年，但是外界所知仍然有限。
平可夫向《国防新闻》周刊指出，歼十的设计缺陷一目瞭然。进气道的强度明显不足﹐同时武器系统依然过时﹐没有看到歼十使用精确制导弹药的图像﹐还依然使用传统炸弹和火箭弹。
但他认为，歼十的成本会比F16 Block52便宜许多﹐前者大致为2500万至4000万美元﹐而最新型F16的价格接近6000万美元。
周刊指出，中国生产歼十，目的之一是要在国际市场上与美国的F16、俄罗斯的米格29一较高下。“如果中国人把歼十送到巴黎航空展作出飞行展示﹐他们也许会获得某些海外市场﹐并且挑战米格战斗机的出口”，平可夫声称。
报道指出，伊朗是美国布什政府目前最头痛的国家之一，所以美国不愿意见到任何国家提供军备给伊朗。而中国大陆的算盘是，若美国不想让中国大陆卖歼十给伊朗，那么美国就不要卖F-16C/D给台湾。
短期是根本不可能的事情.
现阶段中国自己都不够用,以现在谣传大约月产2架的产能,连小巴兄弟短期都不可能拥有.
无论伊朗还是朝鲜的购买计划我看都是好事者坐在家里面想出来的,完全没有事实根据.
而且,就算要销售给伊朗也需要克服很多困难,现阶段不可能,甚至连用来和老美打嘴仗的可能性都极低
现阶段中国自己都不够用,以现在谣传大约月产2架的产能,连小巴兄弟短期都不可能拥有.
无论伊朗还是朝鲜的购买计划我看都是好事者坐在家里面想出来的,完全没有事实根据.
而且,就算要销售给伊朗也需要克服很多困难,现阶段不可能,甚至连用来和老美打嘴仗的可能性都极低
:)
老美是别有用心的！
老美是别有用心的！
但是平可夫對國防新聞週刊表示J10的設計缺陷一目瞭然。進氣道的強度明顯不足﹐同時武器系統依然過時﹐沒有看到J10使用精確制導彈藥的圖像﹐還依然使用傳統炸彈和火箭彈。但是他認為J10的成本會比F16Block52 便宜許多﹐前者大致為2500萬至4000萬美元﹐而最新型F16的價格接近6000萬美元。
"如果中國人把J10送到巴黎航空展作出飛行展示﹐他們也許會獲得某些海外市場﹐並且挑戰米格戰鬥機的出口。平可夫聲稱。
在俄羅斯﹐俄軍隊《紅星報》引述俄通社對平可夫的採訪聲稱巴基斯坦已經在去年4月正式立項進口討論進口J10的可能性﹐這一發展計劃稱作FC20高級戰鬥機計劃（請注意﹕不是媒體翻譯的FB20）。巴基斯坦三軍參謀長聯席會議主席哈克上將在會見平可夫時作出了上述表示。巴基斯坦計劃購買36架FC20。
"如果中國人把J10送到巴黎航空展作出飛行展示﹐他們也許會獲得某些海外市場﹐並且挑戰米格戰鬥機的出口。平可夫聲稱。
在俄羅斯﹐俄軍隊《紅星報》引述俄通社對平可夫的採訪聲稱巴基斯坦已經在去年4月正式立項進口討論進口J10的可能性﹐這一發展計劃稱作FC20高級戰鬥機計劃（請注意﹕不是媒體翻譯的FB20）。巴基斯坦三軍參謀長聯席會議主席哈克上將在會見平可夫時作出了上述表示。巴基斯坦計劃購買36架FC20。
平可夫整天放他X的狗X！看都恶心！
P大屎的文章,不看也罢