外媒报道:普京梦想的俄罗斯定价自产石油就要实现了

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建立期货市场/合约,自己组织交易,定价自产的石油,脱离Brent体系
摆脱石油的美元定价;

其它类似想法的有中国准备今年开张


全世界都在自觉自醒,摆脱老美的霸权呵

补个链接:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/m ... JZV?ocid=spartandhp

Russian President Vladimir Putin is on the verge of realizing a decade-old dream: Russian oil priced in Russia.

The nation’s largest commodity exchange, whose chairman is Putin ally Igor Sechin, is courting international oil traders to join its emerging futures market. The goal is to increase revenue from Urals crude by disconnecting the price-setting mechanism from the world’s most-used Brent oil benchmark. Another aim is to move away from quoting petroleum in U.S. dollars.

If Russia is going to attract international participation in Russian-based pricing, the Kremlin will need to persuade traders it’s not simply trying to push prices up, some energy analysts said. The government is dependent on oil revenue to fund its budgets.

“The goal is to create a system where Russian oil is priced and traded in a fair and straightforward way,” said Alexei Rybnikov, president of the St. Petersburg International Mercantile Exchange, or Spimex, in a phone interview.

Russia, which exports about half its crude, has long complained about the size of the discounts for lower quality Urals oil compared to North Sea Brent prices, which are assessed by the Platts agency. With world oil prices down by half in the past two years and Russia facing the prospect of its worst budget deficit as a percentage of its economic output since 2010, it needs every dollar of petroleum revenue it can get. Having its own futures market would improve Russian oil price discovery as well as help domestic companies generate extra revenue from trading, said Rybnikov.

Bloomberg LP, the parent of Bloomberg News, competes with Platts and other companies in providing energy-market news and information.

Kremlin Involvement

“The reality is that the Kremlin is always likely to be heavily involved in the Russian oil industry,” said Richard Mallinson, an analyst at Energy Aspects Ltd. “That creates the concern that the proposals might be structured to try to achieve higher prices, which is not consistent with efficient price discovery.”

The Russian government’s system of approvals for shipping crude from different ports and pipelines could also mean subdued interest from western refiners, because some export volume adjustments could be politically motivated, said Ehsan Ul-Haq, senior oil market analyst at KBC Energy Economics. The volatility of the Russian ruble, which will be used for futures margins, also causes concern among companies.

To attract traders, the Bank of Russia is preparing legislative amendments to grant non-Russian firms access to exchange-traded commodities and their derivatives, the financial industry regulator said in an e-mail. The bank will assist Spimex in starting futures to price oil for exports.

Western Agencies

Russia’s largest oil companies, including Rosneft OJSC, Lukoil PJSC, and Gazprom Neft PJSC support the new futures and may become market makers, Spimex President Rybnikov said. He declined to name any trading firms outside of Russia, saying that the exchange has been in a dialogue with many market participants.

Gazprom Neft has been involved in futures development since 2015, it said in an e-mail. Lukoil will be willing to participate in the futures market if it makes economic sense, the company said in an e-mail. A Rosneft spokesman declined to comment.

Spimex has been Russia’s largest oil product platform since trading started in 2008 after the government obliged companies to sell between 5 and 10 percent of their domestic transport fuel supplies there. Producers sold about 533 billion rubles ($7.8 billion) of products, or more than 15 percent of all fuel delivered to the local market, at the bourse last year.

The initial futures contract will be worth 1,000 barrels traded in U.S. dollars with a minimum delivery of 720,000 barrels to the Russian ports on the Baltic Seas, according to its specifications. Russia planned to export about 1.5 million barrels of crude a day from its Baltic oil terminals in March.

Previous Efforts

Moscow is not alone in its push to change global oil pricing. China, which vies with the U.S. as the world’s biggest crude importer, has spent two decades trying to introduce its own oil futures contact, now expected this year. Iran and Venezuela, members of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, have called for trading oil in other currencies than U.S. dollars.

The Kremlin plan echoes the New York Mercantile Exchange’s efforts to offer Russian export oil futures in late 2006. Nymex, now part of CME Group Inc., discontinued the contract six years later because it wasn’t popular among traders, JBC Energy GmbH said.

“Some market participants might be wary of embracing the new futures contracts as a benchmark due to concerns about the Russian government’s high degree of involvement in the oil sector,” said Eugene Lindell an analyst at Vienna-based JBC. “It remains questionable as to what extent Spimex can provide a better overall trading framework.”

To contact the reporter on this story: Eduard Gismatullin in Hong Kong at egismatullin@bloomberg.net. To contact the editors responsible for this story: Sam Mamudi at smamudi@bloomberg.net, Rob Urban

©2016 Bloomberg L.P.


建立期货市场/合约,自己组织交易,定价自产的石油,脱离Brent体系
摆脱石油的美元定价;

其它类似想法的有中国准备今年开张


全世界都在自觉自醒,摆脱老美的霸权呵

补个链接:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/m ... JZV?ocid=spartandhp

Russian President Vladimir Putin is on the verge of realizing a decade-old dream: Russian oil priced in Russia.

The nation’s largest commodity exchange, whose chairman is Putin ally Igor Sechin, is courting international oil traders to join its emerging futures market. The goal is to increase revenue from Urals crude by disconnecting the price-setting mechanism from the world’s most-used Brent oil benchmark. Another aim is to move away from quoting petroleum in U.S. dollars.

If Russia is going to attract international participation in Russian-based pricing, the Kremlin will need to persuade traders it’s not simply trying to push prices up, some energy analysts said. The government is dependent on oil revenue to fund its budgets.

“The goal is to create a system where Russian oil is priced and traded in a fair and straightforward way,” said Alexei Rybnikov, president of the St. Petersburg International Mercantile Exchange, or Spimex, in a phone interview.

Russia, which exports about half its crude, has long complained about the size of the discounts for lower quality Urals oil compared to North Sea Brent prices, which are assessed by the Platts agency. With world oil prices down by half in the past two years and Russia facing the prospect of its worst budget deficit as a percentage of its economic output since 2010, it needs every dollar of petroleum revenue it can get. Having its own futures market would improve Russian oil price discovery as well as help domestic companies generate extra revenue from trading, said Rybnikov.

Bloomberg LP, the parent of Bloomberg News, competes with Platts and other companies in providing energy-market news and information.

Kremlin Involvement

“The reality is that the Kremlin is always likely to be heavily involved in the Russian oil industry,” said Richard Mallinson, an analyst at Energy Aspects Ltd. “That creates the concern that the proposals might be structured to try to achieve higher prices, which is not consistent with efficient price discovery.”

The Russian government’s system of approvals for shipping crude from different ports and pipelines could also mean subdued interest from western refiners, because some export volume adjustments could be politically motivated, said Ehsan Ul-Haq, senior oil market analyst at KBC Energy Economics. The volatility of the Russian ruble, which will be used for futures margins, also causes concern among companies.

To attract traders, the Bank of Russia is preparing legislative amendments to grant non-Russian firms access to exchange-traded commodities and their derivatives, the financial industry regulator said in an e-mail. The bank will assist Spimex in starting futures to price oil for exports.

Western Agencies

Russia’s largest oil companies, including Rosneft OJSC, Lukoil PJSC, and Gazprom Neft PJSC support the new futures and may become market makers, Spimex President Rybnikov said. He declined to name any trading firms outside of Russia, saying that the exchange has been in a dialogue with many market participants.

Gazprom Neft has been involved in futures development since 2015, it said in an e-mail. Lukoil will be willing to participate in the futures market if it makes economic sense, the company said in an e-mail. A Rosneft spokesman declined to comment.

Spimex has been Russia’s largest oil product platform since trading started in 2008 after the government obliged companies to sell between 5 and 10 percent of their domestic transport fuel supplies there. Producers sold about 533 billion rubles ($7.8 billion) of products, or more than 15 percent of all fuel delivered to the local market, at the bourse last year.

The initial futures contract will be worth 1,000 barrels traded in U.S. dollars with a minimum delivery of 720,000 barrels to the Russian ports on the Baltic Seas, according to its specifications. Russia planned to export about 1.5 million barrels of crude a day from its Baltic oil terminals in March.

Previous Efforts

Moscow is not alone in its push to change global oil pricing. China, which vies with the U.S. as the world’s biggest crude importer, has spent two decades trying to introduce its own oil futures contact, now expected this year. Iran and Venezuela, members of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, have called for trading oil in other currencies than U.S. dollars.

The Kremlin plan echoes the New York Mercantile Exchange’s efforts to offer Russian export oil futures in late 2006. Nymex, now part of CME Group Inc., discontinued the contract six years later because it wasn’t popular among traders, JBC Energy GmbH said.

“Some market participants might be wary of embracing the new futures contracts as a benchmark due to concerns about the Russian government’s high degree of involvement in the oil sector,” said Eugene Lindell an analyst at Vienna-based JBC. “It remains questionable as to what extent Spimex can provide a better overall trading framework.”

To contact the reporter on this story: Eduard Gismatullin in Hong Kong at egismatullin@bloomberg.net. To contact the editors responsible for this story: Sam Mamudi at smamudi@bloomberg.net, Rob Urban

©2016 Bloomberg L.P.
呵呵,普京的梦想多了去了
定价20美元一桶,老美管不了,哈哈
先看看怎么运作

gmgm201 发表于 2016-4-28 16:56
呵呵,普京的梦想多了去了


daddy的bloomberg正式报道。原文意思是即将实现。
gmgm201 发表于 2016-4-28 16:56
呵呵,普京的梦想多了去了


daddy的bloomberg正式报道。原文意思是即将实现。
不太懂具体要怎么操作,不过毛子的石油开采成本高,油价低于25美金一桶就基本是亏本甩卖了
现实很骨感
已补链接和原文
不可能买俄罗斯的高价油的。
原文意思是即将实现。
定几百美元吧
不可能哈
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除非,,,老毛子的油比别人的低点
与其这样不如直接用人民币结算
不用美元计价还是可以的,全世界石油买卖也ˉ可以不收美元,不怕被美帝灭就可以。
毛子做它的春秋大梦去吧,一个绑在单一能源上的国家,能有啥前途
向左使 发表于 2016-4-28 17:00
不太懂具体要怎么操作,不过毛子的石油开采成本高,油价低于25美金一桶就基本是亏本甩卖了
招揽国际做市商
多少卢布一桶?
关键还是基本面出问题了,米畜和波斯都加入石油竞争了,毛子就算自己开盘也卖不上高价
朴婷的所有梦想都是基于能源,恨不得200美元一桶。
有啥用?自己说了算的国内定价,卖给国外?除了低价,国外凭什么要买你的高价油?
白日梦
tg:30一桶
毛子:不卖
tg:你说多少?
毛子:31
tg:同意。
毛子:自主定价
毛子做它的春秋大梦去吧,一个绑在单一能源上的国家,能有啥前途
做中国的加拿大,可以活得很好,再成立一个北亚联合防空司令部。
搅美元体系的shi。。。。乐观其成
谁普及一下俄罗斯乌拉尔原油
谁敢用币值上蹿下跳的卢布结算?
syskey1 发表于 2016-4-28 17:07
不可能买俄罗斯的高价油的。

最重要的是稳定的石油来源,而不是价格。
加拿大的渣油低于40美元就亏本,因此开采量有限,但如果在中国,肯定已经商业开发。
向左使 发表于 2016-4-28 17:00
不太懂具体要怎么操作,不过毛子的石油开采成本高,油价低于25美金一桶就基本是亏本甩卖了
不使用美金就能赚钱。
很多人不明白石油到底能不能赚的关键不是多少钱一桶,而是交易的货币是谁的~~~
普京定价他得卖200美元一桶,他也就做做梦。
屠城校尉 发表于 2016-4-28 17:14
不用美元计价还是可以的,全世界石油买卖也ˉ可以不收美元,不怕被美帝灭就可以。
这个才是关键所在, 和美元脱钩
冷风飘 发表于 2016-4-28 18:47
谁敢用币值上蹿下跳的卢布结算?
也许是反过来,用石油给卢布定价
和大宝 发表于 2016-4-28 18:59
很多人不明白石油到底能不能赚的关键不是多少钱一桶,而是交易的货币是谁的~~~
是的,如果用卢布结算,毛子只需要稳定国内成本价格
一大堆英文,翻译成汉语就是“强买强卖”的意思,对嘛。
中国的人民币和工业能力,伊朗、俄罗斯的石油天然气、巴西的铁矿石和农产品,南非、印度的钱(消费能力),如果能联合起来就能把米畜搅个天翻地覆,可惜不团结。现在巴西那帮无知的所谓政治家反而自乱阵脚!
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光靠大毛一家,这是做不成,没啥用,但是中国这个动作是不是有点大,现在把美帝逼急了怎么办,中国想和美帝摊牌了吗
光靠大毛一家,这是做不成,没啥用,但是中国这个动作是不是有点大,现在把美帝逼急了怎么办,中国想和美帝 ...
原文说了,中国已经为自己的原油期货合约准备了20年,预计今年实施。中国是世界最大原油进口国。
X-Wing 发表于 2016-4-28 20:03
原文说了,中国已经为自己的原油期货合约准备了20年,预计今年实施。中国是世界最大原油进口国。
我说的动作有点大是这无疑会动摇石油美元,这可是直接动摇美帝霸权根基的,跟中国准备多久没关系,你即使准备了一百年,对美帝来说,这也是个很大的威胁。我不是说这个不要搞,而是要准备好应对美帝的反击
做中国的加拿大,可以活得很好,再成立一个北亚联合防空司令部。
这个创意好,谁了~~~
不太懂具体要怎么操作,不过毛子的石油开采成本高,油价低于25美金一桶就基本是亏本甩卖了
谁告诉你毛子原油开采成本要25美元一桶的?不要拍脑袋乱猜,要是这个成本,毛子早崩溃了。2008年有个统计俄罗斯石油开采成本是9美元一桶仅次于中东。