克里诱使中国逼迫北棒弃核,霉国裁减导弹防御系统,金三 ...

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不知道南棒霉国为啥又要对话了,又要犯十几年来一直吃的亏了?北棒又借这次自己造的危机树立金三形象



北棒都说了:核遏制力是拿什么都不能换的革命遗产,TG卡点粮油就能让北棒放弃?

其实就让北棒在那儿演出好了,能咋样呢?


MD给折腾了二十年还没想明白吗?核武是金三的保命丸会放弃吗{:soso_e100:} ?现在北棒只是用来敲点粮食欺骗国民这是MD投降的表现,过1年再找个借口发个导弹一切推翻重来再谈

想来这也是民煮国家领导上台挣政绩的弊病。南棒给金二这种当面背后各一套的折腾了十年总算想明白了,要钱没有,你不来实际的我不给钱。就南棒现在这政策挺好,朝鲜不拿实际的东西出来就不参加会谈

要打奉陪,一遭打击马上应对。等待和平演变

其实金三已经到了很尴尬的地步了

TG应该对朝鲜应该维持不冷不热的状态,每年给点油/粮拉倒 。

各取所需,TG要的是你朝鲜别倒,和韩国分裂越久越好。金三想的是怎么封锁消息传位,绝对不会改革开放{:soso_e100:}

彻底投奔TG当东北第四省金三不干,因此就晾着吧,金三能干嘛?

难道金三会去投奔美国吗???金三自己还怕被演变,先有鸡还是先有蛋的问题几十年谈下来已经无解,MD巴不得这样分着可以继续在南棒/鬼子驻军,MD要北棒做啥{:soso_e100:} ?土地贫瘠除了下面有点煤/铁外没啥

难道金三会去投奔南棒吗?南棒被他反复欺骗玩弄了十几年现在什么都不信金三。南棒国民可不愿意统一再过二十年苦日子

难道金三会去投奔毛子吗?朝鲜对毛子可没那么重要

就算金三撑不下去了,难道金三真能自爆核弹吗?真的拿火箭射北美大家一起玩完?

至于担心一旦垮掉所谓的边境难民潮,TB去罗先占块地建个难民营再慢慢谈条件呗{:soso_e106:}




http://news.sina.com.cn/w/2013-04-15/082026828231.shtml


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/1 ... html?pagewanted=all

新华网消息 新加坡《联合早报》15日发表题为《朝若弃核 美愿裁减导弹防御系统》的文章,克里周六在北京记者会上表示,朝鲜要是愿意放弃核武计划,美国可以裁减在西太平洋新添的导弹防御系统。文章称,美国希望通过外交途径避免东北亚地区擦枪走火。

  美国媒体报道,此举相信是美国新的外交策略手腕,旨在诱使中国发挥影响力,逼迫朝鲜放弃核武发展计划。因为在中国看来,美国的导弹防御系统要制衡的是中国。

  美国国务卿克里在北京表示,如果朝鲜放弃核武计划,美国将裁减其导弹防御系统。此举相信是美国新的外交策略手腕,旨在诱使中国发挥影响力,逼迫朝鲜放弃核武发展计划。

  克里短短三天访韩中日

  盼避免东北亚擦枪走火

  朝鲜半岛日益紧张的局势,让世界各国神经紧绷。克里在这短短三天内,先后访问韩国、中国和日本,希望通过外交途径避免东北亚地区擦枪走火。

  克里周六在北京记者会上表示,朝鲜要是愿意放弃核武计划,美国可以裁减在西太平洋新添的导弹防御系统。这项提议正好对准中国心事,因北京对美国最新举措感到不安。

  《纽约时报》报道指出,这是美国新的外交手段,目的在于诱使中国做出它一直不愿意做的事情——对朝鲜施加更大的压力,迫使该国领导人放弃核武。

  最近几个星期,美国在该区域部署了两艘宙斯盾驱逐舰,并表示将加速在关岛部署陆基导弹防御系统。

  对于美国的最新举措,许多中国人认为,美国新的导弹防御系统部署,是制衡中国的策略之一,特别是美国正把其战略中心转移到亚洲。

  过去,中国担心的是另一问题,它担心朝鲜局势万一动荡,那将导致朝鲜政权垮台,这会让整个朝鲜半岛落入美国的势力范围内。

  对美国坚持强硬对待朝鲜的策略,中国的配合至为关键。奥巴马政府希望,能有一劳永逸的办法,彻底解决朝鲜的核问题。前几任美国政府在面对朝鲜的挑衅时,总是以经济援助来缓和局势,但朝鲜在获得所需的援助后,就会把它答应弃核的承诺忘得一干二净。

  对各界的解读,克里随后指出,美国的新举措是合乎逻辑的行动。他说:“明显的,如果威胁消失了,也就是朝鲜去核了,那么我们不再迫切需要这类强大的前线防御。”

  克里在北京的最新提议可能会引起反弹,美国一些导弹防卫体系的坚定倡导者主张,美国应以加强导弹防御系统,来回应中国不断增强的军力。



  现在的情况是,即使中国决定对朝鲜施加更大的压力,朝鲜也不一定会屈服。在新领袖金正恩领导下,朝鲜已经几次不理会中国的呼吁,包括拒绝北京劝解,坚持进行核试验,结果使得朝鲜半岛局势急速升温。

  昨天下午,克里飞抵东京,同日本外长岸田文雄举行一轮会谈,就如何应对朝鲜或发射弹道导弹的动向展开了磋商。

  克里和岸田文雄随后举行记者会表示,美国会全心全意遵守保护日本的承诺。不过,克里强调,美国希望找到和平解决方案,化解朝鲜半岛的紧张局面。


BEIJING — Secretary of State John Kerry flew to China on Saturday and sought to elicit China’s help in dealing with an increasingly recalcitrant nuclear armed North Korea by saying that American missile defenses could be cut back if the North abandoned its nuclear program.

Mr. Kerry’s trip to China, his first since taking office, is part of an intensive three-day push to try to calm tensions on the Korean Peninsula that have threatened to spiral out of control and rattled world leaders.

In a news conference, Mr. Kerry suggested that the United States could remove some newly enhanced missile defenses in the region, though he did not specify which ones. Any eventual cutback would address Chinese concerns about the buildup of American weapons systems in the region.

After back-to-back meetings between Mr. Kerry and China’s top leaders, the two countries announced that they endorsed the principle of ridding the Korean Peninsula of nuclear weapons, though China did not state publicly what steps it might take to achieve that goal after years of reluctance to crack down on Pyongyang.

“We also joined together in calling on North Korea to refrain from provocations and to abide by international obligations,” Mr. Kerry said.

Worries spiked last week as the South Koreans predicted the North could launch a new missile test any day and after the disclosure that an American intelligence agency concluded for the first time with “moderate confidence” that North Korea learned how to make a nuclear warhead small enough to be delivered by a ballistic missile. The administration has since said that it was premature to conclude that Pyongyang had a fully tested weapons system.

Mr. Kerry’s stance on newly fortified missile defenses appeared to be a selling point to get China, the only country presumed to have any real influence over North Korea, to do what it has long resisted — crack down hard enough that North Korea’s leaders will give up an increasingly sophisticated nuclear program.

In recent weeks, the administration has dispatched two ships outfitted with Aegis antimissile defenses to the region and said it will speed up the positioning of land-based missile defenses on Guam to protect allies in the region after North Korea’s threats to rain missiles on United States troops there and on South Korea.

Many Chinese believe the antimissile systems are part of a containment strategy against them at a time when the United States is pursuing a “pivot” to Asia.

In the past, China has been motivated by a different fear: that any move to destabilize the North would lead to a collapse of the regime and deliver the entire peninsula to the United States’ sphere of influence, possibly bringing American troops in South Korea closer to its border.

On Sunday, Mr. Kerry met with Japanese leaders in Tokyo, where they agreed to keep working toward a nuclear-free North Korea and suggested that direct talks were possible under certain conditions..

North Korea has a clear choice available, Mr. Kerry said, according to The Associated Press, and will find “ready partners” in the United States if it follows through. The Japanese foreign minister, Fumio Kishida, was more specific, saying that Pyongyang must meet its commitment to earlier deals regarding its nuclear and missile programs and on returning kidnapped foreigners.

China’s cooperation is essential to the Obama administration’s strategy of holding a tough line on Pyongyang in an attempt to achieve the type of long-lasting solution on the nuclear program that has eluded a string of United States presidents. Previous administrations responded to North Korean provocations by eventually offering aid to tamp down tensions, only to see the North’s promises to relinquish its nuclear program evaporate once the aid had been delivered.

Mr. Kerry said he explained to China why the United States felt it needed more missile defenses in the region.

“Obviously if the threat disappears — i.e. North Korea denuclearizes — the same imperative does not exist at that point of time for us to have that kind of robust forward leaning posture of defense,” he said. “And it would be our hope in the long run, or better yet in short run, that we can address that.”

Mr. Kerry’s remarks in Beijing are likely to stir concern among staunch advocates of missile defense in the United States, who also see antimissile systems as a means of responding to China’s growing military might. His aides say any changes would require the input of the Pentagon.

Even if China were to take a strong position with its longtime ally, possibly cutting back essential aid and fuel, North Korea might not fall into line. Under its new leader,Kim Jong-un, the North has snubbed China several times, including refusing Chinese entreaties to cancel the recent nuclear test that set off the war of words on the Peninsula.

At the core of the issue is the United States’ inability to draw North Korea into a serious round of nuclear talks. North Korea’s apparent determination to expand its nuclear weapons program and the American demand that it commit up front to eventually relinquishing those arms have raised the question of whether there is even any basis for negotiations. “China has an enormous ability to help make a difference here,” Mr. Kerry said on Friday in Seoul.

The Chinese stance on North Korea has never been a simple one. On one hand, the Chinese prize stability and are eager to avoid a crisis that would spawn a flood of refugees or prompt the United States to shift more forces to the Pacific. On the other hand, that same concern for stability has meant that it is reluctant to take steps that would undermine the North Korean government’s hold on power and eliminate a friendly buffer between Chinese territory and South Korean and American forces.

In Beijing, Mr. Kerry met with the new president,Xi Jinping, Foreign Minister Wang Yi, PremierLi Keqiangand State Councilor Yang Jiechi.

Mr. Yang said at a dinner with Mr. Kerry on Saturday night that China was committed to “the denuclearization process on the Korean Peninsula.” But the Chinese state councilor also stressed that the “issue should be handled and resolved peacefully through dialogue and consultation.”

To encourage the Chinese to deal with the North Korean nuclear problem, Mr. Kerry said that he had shared “very in-depth” information illustrating the danger of how a nuclear North Korea could promote the proliferation of nuclear arms in Asia and the Middle East.

Mr. Kerry said his aim was to find a way to revive the goals of the six-party talks on the North’s nuclear program, which have been stalled since 2009 when North Korea withdrew. The talks have included North and South Korea, China, Russia, Japan and the United States.

He also portrayed cooperation on North Korea as just one element of a “model partnership” the United States hoped to build with China on diplomatic, economic and environmental issues.

Mr. Kerry said there would be additional discussions in the weeks ahead with the Chinese that would involve American intelligence experts including Gen. Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. The two sides also called on North Korea to refrain from provocations, an apparent allusion to a potential missile test the South Koreans said could happen soon.

Bonnie S. Glaser, a senior adviser for Asia at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, said China was very frustrated with Mr. Kim and was taking some action, like cracking down on the flow of illicit North Korean funds through Chinese banks. At the same time, she noted, the Chinese fear the United States’ recent actions, including a test flight of B-2 bombers over South Korea, would further incite the North.

The United States “keeps sending more fighter bombers and missile defense ships to the waters of East Asia and carrying out massive military drills with Asian allies in a dramatic display of pre-emptive power,” the state-run news agency Xinhua said Saturday.




Jane Perlez contributed reporting.


This article has been revised to reflect the following correction:

Correction: April 13, 2013



An earlier version of this article misidentified the Chinese official who stressed that “the denuclearization process on the Korean Peninsula” should be “handled and resolved peacefully through dialogue and consultation.” It was State Councilor Yang Jiechi, not Foreign Minister Wang Yi.


  美日两国外长也表示,如果朝鲜采取行动,缓和朝鲜半岛紧张局势,并且信守过去在朝核问题上同意的协议,那么美国和日本愿意同朝鲜举行新的会谈。

  克里表示,“我们的选项是展开谈判,我们的选项是移往谈判桌,找出一个让朝鲜半岛获得和平的途径。”

不知道南棒霉国为啥又要对话了,又要犯十几年来一直吃的亏了?北棒又借这次自己造的危机树立金三形象



北棒都说了:核遏制力是拿什么都不能换的革命遗产,TG卡点粮油就能让北棒放弃?

其实就让北棒在那儿演出好了,能咋样呢?


MD给折腾了二十年还没想明白吗?核武是金三的保命丸会放弃吗{:soso_e100:} ?现在北棒只是用来敲点粮食欺骗国民这是MD投降的表现,过1年再找个借口发个导弹一切推翻重来再谈

想来这也是民煮国家领导上台挣政绩的弊病。南棒给金二这种当面背后各一套的折腾了十年总算想明白了,要钱没有,你不来实际的我不给钱。就南棒现在这政策挺好,朝鲜不拿实际的东西出来就不参加会谈

要打奉陪,一遭打击马上应对。等待和平演变

其实金三已经到了很尴尬的地步了

TG应该对朝鲜应该维持不冷不热的状态,每年给点油/粮拉倒 。

各取所需,TG要的是你朝鲜别倒,和韩国分裂越久越好。金三想的是怎么封锁消息传位,绝对不会改革开放{:soso_e100:}

彻底投奔TG当东北第四省金三不干,因此就晾着吧,金三能干嘛?

难道金三会去投奔美国吗???金三自己还怕被演变,先有鸡还是先有蛋的问题几十年谈下来已经无解,MD巴不得这样分着可以继续在南棒/鬼子驻军,MD要北棒做啥{:soso_e100:} ?土地贫瘠除了下面有点煤/铁外没啥

难道金三会去投奔南棒吗?南棒被他反复欺骗玩弄了十几年现在什么都不信金三。南棒国民可不愿意统一再过二十年苦日子

难道金三会去投奔毛子吗?朝鲜对毛子可没那么重要

就算金三撑不下去了,难道金三真能自爆核弹吗?真的拿火箭射北美大家一起玩完?

至于担心一旦垮掉所谓的边境难民潮,TB去罗先占块地建个难民营再慢慢谈条件呗{:soso_e106:}




http://news.sina.com.cn/w/2013-04-15/082026828231.shtml


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/1 ... html?pagewanted=all

新华网消息 新加坡《联合早报》15日发表题为《朝若弃核 美愿裁减导弹防御系统》的文章,克里周六在北京记者会上表示,朝鲜要是愿意放弃核武计划,美国可以裁减在西太平洋新添的导弹防御系统。文章称,美国希望通过外交途径避免东北亚地区擦枪走火。

  美国媒体报道,此举相信是美国新的外交策略手腕,旨在诱使中国发挥影响力,逼迫朝鲜放弃核武发展计划。因为在中国看来,美国的导弹防御系统要制衡的是中国。

  美国国务卿克里在北京表示,如果朝鲜放弃核武计划,美国将裁减其导弹防御系统。此举相信是美国新的外交策略手腕,旨在诱使中国发挥影响力,逼迫朝鲜放弃核武发展计划。

  克里短短三天访韩中日

  盼避免东北亚擦枪走火

  朝鲜半岛日益紧张的局势,让世界各国神经紧绷。克里在这短短三天内,先后访问韩国、中国和日本,希望通过外交途径避免东北亚地区擦枪走火。

  克里周六在北京记者会上表示,朝鲜要是愿意放弃核武计划,美国可以裁减在西太平洋新添的导弹防御系统。这项提议正好对准中国心事,因北京对美国最新举措感到不安。

  《纽约时报》报道指出,这是美国新的外交手段,目的在于诱使中国做出它一直不愿意做的事情——对朝鲜施加更大的压力,迫使该国领导人放弃核武。

  最近几个星期,美国在该区域部署了两艘宙斯盾驱逐舰,并表示将加速在关岛部署陆基导弹防御系统。

  对于美国的最新举措,许多中国人认为,美国新的导弹防御系统部署,是制衡中国的策略之一,特别是美国正把其战略中心转移到亚洲。

  过去,中国担心的是另一问题,它担心朝鲜局势万一动荡,那将导致朝鲜政权垮台,这会让整个朝鲜半岛落入美国的势力范围内。

  对美国坚持强硬对待朝鲜的策略,中国的配合至为关键。奥巴马政府希望,能有一劳永逸的办法,彻底解决朝鲜的核问题。前几任美国政府在面对朝鲜的挑衅时,总是以经济援助来缓和局势,但朝鲜在获得所需的援助后,就会把它答应弃核的承诺忘得一干二净。

  对各界的解读,克里随后指出,美国的新举措是合乎逻辑的行动。他说:“明显的,如果威胁消失了,也就是朝鲜去核了,那么我们不再迫切需要这类强大的前线防御。”

  克里在北京的最新提议可能会引起反弹,美国一些导弹防卫体系的坚定倡导者主张,美国应以加强导弹防御系统,来回应中国不断增强的军力。



  现在的情况是,即使中国决定对朝鲜施加更大的压力,朝鲜也不一定会屈服。在新领袖金正恩领导下,朝鲜已经几次不理会中国的呼吁,包括拒绝北京劝解,坚持进行核试验,结果使得朝鲜半岛局势急速升温。

  昨天下午,克里飞抵东京,同日本外长岸田文雄举行一轮会谈,就如何应对朝鲜或发射弹道导弹的动向展开了磋商。

  克里和岸田文雄随后举行记者会表示,美国会全心全意遵守保护日本的承诺。不过,克里强调,美国希望找到和平解决方案,化解朝鲜半岛的紧张局面。


BEIJING — Secretary of State John Kerry flew to China on Saturday and sought to elicit China’s help in dealing with an increasingly recalcitrant nuclear armed North Korea by saying that American missile defenses could be cut back if the North abandoned its nuclear program.

Mr. Kerry’s trip to China, his first since taking office, is part of an intensive three-day push to try to calm tensions on the Korean Peninsula that have threatened to spiral out of control and rattled world leaders.

In a news conference, Mr. Kerry suggested that the United States could remove some newly enhanced missile defenses in the region, though he did not specify which ones. Any eventual cutback would address Chinese concerns about the buildup of American weapons systems in the region.

After back-to-back meetings between Mr. Kerry and China’s top leaders, the two countries announced that they endorsed the principle of ridding the Korean Peninsula of nuclear weapons, though China did not state publicly what steps it might take to achieve that goal after years of reluctance to crack down on Pyongyang.

“We also joined together in calling on North Korea to refrain from provocations and to abide by international obligations,” Mr. Kerry said.

Worries spiked last week as the South Koreans predicted the North could launch a new missile test any day and after the disclosure that an American intelligence agency concluded for the first time with “moderate confidence” that North Korea learned how to make a nuclear warhead small enough to be delivered by a ballistic missile. The administration has since said that it was premature to conclude that Pyongyang had a fully tested weapons system.

Mr. Kerry’s stance on newly fortified missile defenses appeared to be a selling point to get China, the only country presumed to have any real influence over North Korea, to do what it has long resisted — crack down hard enough that North Korea’s leaders will give up an increasingly sophisticated nuclear program.

In recent weeks, the administration has dispatched two ships outfitted with Aegis antimissile defenses to the region and said it will speed up the positioning of land-based missile defenses on Guam to protect allies in the region after North Korea’s threats to rain missiles on United States troops there and on South Korea.

Many Chinese believe the antimissile systems are part of a containment strategy against them at a time when the United States is pursuing a “pivot” to Asia.

In the past, China has been motivated by a different fear: that any move to destabilize the North would lead to a collapse of the regime and deliver the entire peninsula to the United States’ sphere of influence, possibly bringing American troops in South Korea closer to its border.

On Sunday, Mr. Kerry met with Japanese leaders in Tokyo, where they agreed to keep working toward a nuclear-free North Korea and suggested that direct talks were possible under certain conditions..

North Korea has a clear choice available, Mr. Kerry said, according to The Associated Press, and will find “ready partners” in the United States if it follows through. The Japanese foreign minister, Fumio Kishida, was more specific, saying that Pyongyang must meet its commitment to earlier deals regarding its nuclear and missile programs and on returning kidnapped foreigners.

China’s cooperation is essential to the Obama administration’s strategy of holding a tough line on Pyongyang in an attempt to achieve the type of long-lasting solution on the nuclear program that has eluded a string of United States presidents. Previous administrations responded to North Korean provocations by eventually offering aid to tamp down tensions, only to see the North’s promises to relinquish its nuclear program evaporate once the aid had been delivered.

Mr. Kerry said he explained to China why the United States felt it needed more missile defenses in the region.

“Obviously if the threat disappears — i.e. North Korea denuclearizes — the same imperative does not exist at that point of time for us to have that kind of robust forward leaning posture of defense,” he said. “And it would be our hope in the long run, or better yet in short run, that we can address that.”

Mr. Kerry’s remarks in Beijing are likely to stir concern among staunch advocates of missile defense in the United States, who also see antimissile systems as a means of responding to China’s growing military might. His aides say any changes would require the input of the Pentagon.

Even if China were to take a strong position with its longtime ally, possibly cutting back essential aid and fuel, North Korea might not fall into line. Under its new leader,Kim Jong-un, the North has snubbed China several times, including refusing Chinese entreaties to cancel the recent nuclear test that set off the war of words on the Peninsula.

At the core of the issue is the United States’ inability to draw North Korea into a serious round of nuclear talks. North Korea’s apparent determination to expand its nuclear weapons program and the American demand that it commit up front to eventually relinquishing those arms have raised the question of whether there is even any basis for negotiations. “China has an enormous ability to help make a difference here,” Mr. Kerry said on Friday in Seoul.

The Chinese stance on North Korea has never been a simple one. On one hand, the Chinese prize stability and are eager to avoid a crisis that would spawn a flood of refugees or prompt the United States to shift more forces to the Pacific. On the other hand, that same concern for stability has meant that it is reluctant to take steps that would undermine the North Korean government’s hold on power and eliminate a friendly buffer between Chinese territory and South Korean and American forces.

In Beijing, Mr. Kerry met with the new president,Xi Jinping, Foreign Minister Wang Yi, PremierLi Keqiangand State Councilor Yang Jiechi.

Mr. Yang said at a dinner with Mr. Kerry on Saturday night that China was committed to “the denuclearization process on the Korean Peninsula.” But the Chinese state councilor also stressed that the “issue should be handled and resolved peacefully through dialogue and consultation.”

To encourage the Chinese to deal with the North Korean nuclear problem, Mr. Kerry said that he had shared “very in-depth” information illustrating the danger of how a nuclear North Korea could promote the proliferation of nuclear arms in Asia and the Middle East.

Mr. Kerry said his aim was to find a way to revive the goals of the six-party talks on the North’s nuclear program, which have been stalled since 2009 when North Korea withdrew. The talks have included North and South Korea, China, Russia, Japan and the United States.

He also portrayed cooperation on North Korea as just one element of a “model partnership” the United States hoped to build with China on diplomatic, economic and environmental issues.

Mr. Kerry said there would be additional discussions in the weeks ahead with the Chinese that would involve American intelligence experts including Gen. Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. The two sides also called on North Korea to refrain from provocations, an apparent allusion to a potential missile test the South Koreans said could happen soon.

Bonnie S. Glaser, a senior adviser for Asia at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, said China was very frustrated with Mr. Kim and was taking some action, like cracking down on the flow of illicit North Korean funds through Chinese banks. At the same time, she noted, the Chinese fear the United States’ recent actions, including a test flight of B-2 bombers over South Korea, would further incite the North.

The United States “keeps sending more fighter bombers and missile defense ships to the waters of East Asia and carrying out massive military drills with Asian allies in a dramatic display of pre-emptive power,” the state-run news agency Xinhua said Saturday.




Jane Perlez contributed reporting.


This article has been revised to reflect the following correction:

Correction: April 13, 2013



An earlier version of this article misidentified the Chinese official who stressed that “the denuclearization process on the Korean Peninsula” should be “handled and resolved peacefully through dialogue and consultation.” It was State Councilor Yang Jiechi, not Foreign Minister Wang Yi.


  美日两国外长也表示,如果朝鲜采取行动,缓和朝鲜半岛紧张局势,并且信守过去在朝核问题上同意的协议,那么美国和日本愿意同朝鲜举行新的会谈。

  克里表示,“我们的选项是展开谈判,我们的选项是移往谈判桌,找出一个让朝鲜半岛获得和平的途径。”
首先声明我没仔细看帖子,但有一点就是中国政府一直主张的就是半岛无核化。
这个需要霉国人来诱使逼迫??可笑之极
愚蠢的老美。。。本朝对他的所谓的导弹防御没有任何兴趣。。。呵呵呵呵
美国才厉害,裁剪下最近新增的东西都能让人觉得是很大的让步。
中国干毛线现在去要朝鲜弃核?等美军走了再说不迟。
一个无核化的分裂的南北棒子最符合中国和霉国的利益,这个到目前还有人持有疑问??
我看屁股决定脑袋的多啊
美国佬的话不能相信,消减导弹防御系统?没有核武器防身,连中国都不一定能保证自身安全。看看利比亚就知道下场了。核武器就是麻杆打狼——两头害怕。
思维混乱,没来明白
裁减导弹防御系统 缩减军事开支 估计是本来霉菌就要做的事情吧
减掉新添的,这算术水平好厉害,可以小学毕业了。
我怎么赶脚这是土鳖在背后默许北棒在前台和美帝叫板以达到不可告人的目的呢
没有未来的未来 发表于 2013-4-15 09:23
一个无核化的分裂的南北棒子最符合中国和霉国的利益,这个到目前还有人持有疑问??
我看屁 ...
1,朝鲜会弃核吗?不会
2,美国会放弃东亚的导弹防御或者放弃在韩国驻军或者放弃在周边从事遏制中国的军事部署吗?不能
那好,你说我们会怎么办?
重启六方会谈,呼吁各方冷静面对…………………………一个复读机就足够了
一劳永逸的办法就在门前,md退出东亚,从此大大小小的头疼事都让tg担着便可
不知道南棒和霉国为啥这几天又怂了
北棒弃核,对中国只有好处没有坏处

MD削减弹道导弹防御系统,除了向中国交差外,更有砍预算的目的。

这对双方是互赢的

但是,在如何执行上,中美双方缺少互信。

真正的好办法是,中国对金三换马,扶植听话政权上台。

但这点要MD配合,但MD的信用太差,导致中国根本不敢相信。所以这是最好的策略,但是最糟糕的实际行动
兔子淡定的表示,锅里的水没开之前,俺是不会下白菜的
其实我觉得的把,朝鲜现在不管靠那头,他都不会放弃核武器的
现在,中国的六方会谈策略不能丢,这样既能让中国站在道德制高点,又能为自己赢得时间,再过十到十五年,中国整体实力和美国不相上下,那时即使想对抗也已经无能为力
没有未来的未来 发表于 2013-4-15 09:21
首先声明我没仔细看帖子,但有一点就是中国政府一直主张的就是半岛无核化。
这个需要霉国人来诱使逼 ...
就是,TG一向主张半岛无核化,倒是MD派B2,核潜艇进入半岛,率先就违反了无核化

haokutx 发表于 2013-4-15 12:09
其实我觉得的把,朝鲜现在不管靠那头,他都不会放弃核武器的


弃核必死。没有先例可以借签。越南与朝鲜不同,越南本身是个统一国家,没有外来的攻击压力,中国要得也不多,最多一个南海。不论中美,要让其放弃护身符,根本不可能。对朝鲜来说,基本上这也是底线,要么灭掉它让其马上死,要么弃核提心吊胆过日子拖几年慢性死。
haokutx 发表于 2013-4-15 12:09
其实我觉得的把,朝鲜现在不管靠那头,他都不会放弃核武器的


弃核必死。没有先例可以借签。越南与朝鲜不同,越南本身是个统一国家,没有外来的攻击压力,中国要得也不多,最多一个南海。不论中美,要让其放弃护身符,根本不可能。对朝鲜来说,基本上这也是底线,要么灭掉它让其马上死,要么弃核提心吊胆过日子拖几年慢性死。
裁剪新增的。。这话说的
一劫匪劫道,路人不从,劫匪拔刀威胁,路人继续不从,劫匪曰,我把刀收起来,你交钱。