俄陨石事件持续发酵,俄宇航局正式递交20亿美元反陨石系 ...

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俄罗斯陨石袭击事件持续发酵。美国国家航空航天局专家根据最新数据对周五在车里雅宾斯克地区坠落的陨石的各项数据做出调整,得出结论称,陨石比之前估算的结果大得多,由它引起的爆炸威力较此前认为的大得多,相当于1945年广岛原子弹爆炸威力的30倍。 陨石直径不是15米,而是17米,重达1万吨(此前的计算结果为7000吨)。

同时,俄宇航局昨天正式向俄总理府递交了价值20亿美元()580亿卢布)的反陨石/小行星防卫系统计划。该反陨石/小行星系统主要由预警子系统和攻击子系统组成。

预警子系统的投资主要是用来安装或升级、联网分布在俄境内及全球的自动天文望远镜、雷达和计算通讯网络设备。而攻击陨石和小行星的子系统分为间接改变小行星轨道的先进软攻击武器和紧急情况下使用的直接攻击武器。

如果陨石或小行星被发现时已经离得太近,该系统将使用百万吨级的热核弹头导弹(氢弹)直接攻击陨石或小行星。如果发现的及时,该系统可以采用更先进的软攻击武器。



Russia to spend billions on asteroid defense

Published: 19 February, 2013, 02:22

Moscow believes an operable national defense against threats from outer space can be built within 10 years’ time. The 500-kiloton explosion of a space bolide above the Urals region has sped-up allocation of some $2 billion to prevent future threats.

Russian scientists have presented a federal program designed to counteract space threats. Elaborated by the Institute of Astronomy at Russia’s Academy of Sciences and the Central Engineering Research Institute, Russia’s leading space industry enterprise, the program has already been approved by Roskosmos, the national space agency.

The program has nothing to do with Hollywood sci-fi movie scenarios; no lasers, annihilators or Bruce Willis drilling a huge peace of rock rushing towards Earth.

The system will consist of a network of robotic telescopes monitoring space around our planet, some of them delivered to orbit, others operating from the surface.

Destruction of an asteroid in emergency cases may be performed by a rocket with a powerful megaton-class thermonuclear warhead. If the threat is detected early, more advanced means of changing an asteroid’s orbit may be considered.

The program costing 58 billion rubles (over $1.9 billion) has already been handed over to the head of Russia’s defense industry, Deputy PM Dmitry Rogozin who is expected to present it to Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev.

Lidia Rykhlova from the Institute of Astronomy (RAS) who presented the project, reported that Russia will need to modernize and fully computerize the 60 cm lens telescopes it already has. Several larger telescopes with 2 meter lens will have to be additionally installed.

Rykhlova announced that an analytical center will be created to collect the data from various sources and analyze it in real time mode.

However, Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin has denied reports about the Russian government’s intentions to spend 58 billion rubles on asteroid defense system.

Professor of the Moscow State University, head of the laboratory for space monitoring Vladimir Lipunov told Interfax news agency that it will take about two years to modernize all Russia’s existing nine telescopes with the diameter of the lens of 40 centimeters and unite them into one network. A network of larger telescopes across the globe could be ready in five years.

“It will cost a mere trifle. What [Russian billionaire] Roman Abramovich paid for Chelsea [football club] would cover all the costs of the project,” Lipunov said.

According to Forbes during the eight years of owning Chelsea Abramovich spent $1.3 billion on the football club.

Lipunov stressed that tracking and forecasting space threats is more real and efficient than engaging air defense systems to deal with meteorites in the atmosphere, as people could be evacuated from an impact zone in advance.
Asteroid threat is growing by the year

“There are a lot of asteroids orbitingclose to Earth and every year up to 1,000 more are being discovered,” Lidia Rykhlova said, specifying that three years ago the number of known asteroids passing close to our planet was about 7,000 and now their number has grown up to around 9,400.

Most of the relatively large asteroids, with a diameter of one kilometer and larger are already known.

“We know about 90 per cent of kilometer-class asteroids, their orbits are well known and predictable. As for the smaller 40-50 meter ones – we still have insufficient observation apparatus. The more we observe – the more of them we find,” Rykhlova acknowledged.

If the space object is discovered beforehand, at least a month prior to possible collision with Earth, there is time to find out its size and consider various measures of its elimination.

The execution of a really complicated operation will require at least a year, Rykhlova pointed out.

“Therefore our emergency aid is a rocket with a nuclear warhead,” she concluded.

http://rt.com/news/russia-billions-asteroid-protection-502/

http://rusnews.cn/guojiyaowen/guoji_keji/20130216/43694490.html
俄罗斯陨石袭击事件持续发酵。美国国家航空航天局专家根据最新数据对周五在车里雅宾斯克地区坠落的陨石的各项数据做出调整,得出结论称,陨石比之前估算的结果大得多,由它引起的爆炸威力较此前认为的大得多,相当于1945年广岛原子弹爆炸威力的30倍。 陨石直径不是15米,而是17米,重达1万吨(此前的计算结果为7000吨)。

同时,俄宇航局昨天正式向俄总理府递交了价值20亿美元()580亿卢布)的反陨石/小行星防卫系统计划。该反陨石/小行星系统主要由预警子系统和攻击子系统组成。

预警子系统的投资主要是用来安装或升级、联网分布在俄境内及全球的自动天文望远镜、雷达和计算通讯网络设备。而攻击陨石和小行星的子系统分为间接改变小行星轨道的先进软攻击武器和紧急情况下使用的直接攻击武器。

如果陨石或小行星被发现时已经离得太近,该系统将使用百万吨级的热核弹头导弹(氢弹)直接攻击陨石或小行星。如果发现的及时,该系统可以采用更先进的软攻击武器。



Russia to spend billions on asteroid defense

Published: 19 February, 2013, 02:22

Moscow believes an operable national defense against threats from outer space can be built within 10 years’ time. The 500-kiloton explosion of a space bolide above the Urals region has sped-up allocation of some $2 billion to prevent future threats.

Russian scientists have presented a federal program designed to counteract space threats. Elaborated by the Institute of Astronomy at Russia’s Academy of Sciences and the Central Engineering Research Institute, Russia’s leading space industry enterprise, the program has already been approved by Roskosmos, the national space agency.

The program has nothing to do with Hollywood sci-fi movie scenarios; no lasers, annihilators or Bruce Willis drilling a huge peace of rock rushing towards Earth.

The system will consist of a network of robotic telescopes monitoring space around our planet, some of them delivered to orbit, others operating from the surface.

Destruction of an asteroid in emergency cases may be performed by a rocket with a powerful megaton-class thermonuclear warhead. If the threat is detected early, more advanced means of changing an asteroid’s orbit may be considered.

The program costing 58 billion rubles (over $1.9 billion) has already been handed over to the head of Russia’s defense industry, Deputy PM Dmitry Rogozin who is expected to present it to Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev.

Lidia Rykhlova from the Institute of Astronomy (RAS) who presented the project, reported that Russia will need to modernize and fully computerize the 60 cm lens telescopes it already has. Several larger telescopes with 2 meter lens will have to be additionally installed.

Rykhlova announced that an analytical center will be created to collect the data from various sources and analyze it in real time mode.

However, Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin has denied reports about the Russian government’s intentions to spend 58 billion rubles on asteroid defense system.

Professor of the Moscow State University, head of the laboratory for space monitoring Vladimir Lipunov told Interfax news agency that it will take about two years to modernize all Russia’s existing nine telescopes with the diameter of the lens of 40 centimeters and unite them into one network. A network of larger telescopes across the globe could be ready in five years.

“It will cost a mere trifle. What [Russian billionaire] Roman Abramovich paid for Chelsea [football club] would cover all the costs of the project,” Lipunov said.

According to Forbes during the eight years of owning Chelsea Abramovich spent $1.3 billion on the football club.

Lipunov stressed that tracking and forecasting space threats is more real and efficient than engaging air defense systems to deal with meteorites in the atmosphere, as people could be evacuated from an impact zone in advance.
Asteroid threat is growing by the year

“There are a lot of asteroids orbitingclose to Earth and every year up to 1,000 more are being discovered,” Lidia Rykhlova said, specifying that three years ago the number of known asteroids passing close to our planet was about 7,000 and now their number has grown up to around 9,400.

Most of the relatively large asteroids, with a diameter of one kilometer and larger are already known.

“We know about 90 per cent of kilometer-class asteroids, their orbits are well known and predictable. As for the smaller 40-50 meter ones – we still have insufficient observation apparatus. The more we observe – the more of them we find,” Rykhlova acknowledged.

If the space object is discovered beforehand, at least a month prior to possible collision with Earth, there is time to find out its size and consider various measures of its elimination.

The execution of a really complicated operation will require at least a year, Rykhlova pointed out.

“Therefore our emergency aid is a rocket with a nuclear warhead,” she concluded.

http://rt.com/news/russia-billions-asteroid-protection-502/

http://rusnews.cn/guojiyaowen/guoji_keji/20130216/43694490.html
毛子趁热打铁?星球大战又热乎了……
就是一个导弹防御系统。
这么大的陨石,之前一点预警都没有啊,看来人类要监测有威胁的天体还任重道远啊。
拉玛。。。补丁。
大毛就是暴力,動不動就核平一切
毛子就吹吧,哪来的钱
毛子的民用工业一塌糊涂,央视新闻视频显示,毛子用装载机清理陨石造成的垃圾,装载机上赫然可见“LIUGONG”,广西柳工的产品,呵呵
http://news.21-sun.com/detail/2013/02/2013021810094063.shtml


robinzhao_2008 发表于 2013-2-20 07:53
这么大的陨石,之前一点预警都没有啊,看来人类要监测有威胁的天体还任重道远啊。
直径17米,比巡航导弹打多了,看视频,红外辐射那么显著,应该比导弹容易发现的多,如果说熊的航空兵一点都没发现,那太那个啥了,现在,刚入大气层的导弹毛子都能发现。
20亿美刀搞反陨石系统?先以小金额骗立项吧!再说什么对陨石搞软杀伤,这个我没明白。难过是希拉里的巧实力?
少卿 发表于 2013-2-20 08:14
直径17米,比巡航导弹打多了,看视频,红外辐射那么显著,应该比导弹容易发现的多,如果说熊的航空兵一点 ...

毛子说不光发现了,甚至几天前就接到通知了,但说是军方认为是普通无害的流星,没特别留意。
哈罗哈 发表于 2013-2-20 08:17
20亿美刀搞反陨石系统?先以小金额骗立项吧!再说什么对陨石搞软杀伤,这个我没明白。难过是希拉里的巧实力 ...

这个现在国际上有各种技术了,最先进的一种方式是发个卫星绕着小行星转,利用万有引力慢慢地改变其轨道。
robinzhao_2008 发表于 2013-2-20 07:53
这么大的陨石,之前一点预警都没有啊,看来人类要监测有威胁的天体还任重道远啊。
预警了 只是认为它会在大气层内解体 结果石头比预测的大了点 还有大部分没烧完 就落了下来
kamitengo 发表于 2013-2-20 07:55
大毛就是暴力,動不動就核平一切
毛子穷的只剩核弹了
莫谈国事 发表于 2013-2-20 08:21
这个现在国际上有各种技术了,最先进的一种方式是发个卫星绕着小行星转,利用万有引力慢慢地改变其轨道 ...
这个17米,质量1万吨,用万有引力,那得卫星质量多大啊,应该是想小卫星附着到大卫星上那样,发射航天器,着陆然后喷射推离,短时间多次,每次产生的力也是很大的。

少卿 发表于 2013-2-20 08:31
这个17米,质量1万吨,用万有引力,那得卫星质量多大啊,应该是想小卫星附着到大卫星上那样,发射航天器, ...


按装喷射器太复杂了,因为小行星表面成分未知,成功率也不高。如果时间充裕的话,目前用卫星去绕是最好的方案,可以绕上几个月慢慢“绕死”小行星。另外一万吨是这快陨石,前几天的小行星可大多了。
少卿 发表于 2013-2-20 08:31
这个17米,质量1万吨,用万有引力,那得卫星质量多大啊,应该是想小卫星附着到大卫星上那样,发射航天器, ...


按装喷射器太复杂了,因为小行星表面成分未知,成功率也不高。如果时间充裕的话,目前用卫星去绕是最好的方案,可以绕上几个月慢慢“绕死”小行星。另外一万吨是这快陨石,前几天的小行星可大多了。
直径17米,比巡航导弹打多了,看视频,红外辐射那么显著,应该比导弹容易发现的多,如果说熊的航空兵一点 ...
据说是早就发现了,但算下来只能给它挠痒痒,就没采取措施。。。
wszaa 发表于 2013-2-20 08:25
毛子穷的只剩核弹了
毛子铀矿多,要用掉点儿。
挂羊头卖狗肉罢了
不对 是挂牛头卖马肉
少卿 发表于 2013-2-20 08:31
这个17米,质量1万吨,用万有引力,那得卫星质量多大啊,应该是想小卫星附着到大卫星上那样,发射航天器, ...
现在所有的对付小行星的方法,都是没有经过测试的.

单就这个方法而言,几天的预警时间肯定是不够的.就算可以立刻发射火箭到达,怎么也需要几个月的吧?再者,小行星的万有引力那么小,卫星的精确控制要求也超级搞的.
莫谈国事 发表于 2013-2-20 08:46
毛子铀矿多,要用掉点儿。
毛子地大物博 我们竟然还敢吹自己地大物博 打脸啊
莫谈国事 发表于 2013-2-20 08:37
按装喷射器太复杂了,因为小行星表面成分未知,成功率也不高。如果时间充裕的话,目前用卫星去绕是最好 ...
大家都知道,小行星的万有引力是极小的.维持一颗卫星围绕他公转,需要多少燃料用于轨道控制呢?

到达到达一颗小行星并减速需要多少燃料呢?考虑小行星要与地球相撞,那么卫星应该是与小行星对向飞行的,减速需要的燃料怕就不少了.
zlbgod 发表于 2013-2-20 08:39
据说是早就发现了,但算下来只能给它挠痒痒,就没采取措施。。。
其实,我觉得,即使科学家觉得不会烧完,也不一定会公布.
第一,真的没有应对手段.
第二,其实,就连这可陨石到底会掉到什么地方,科学家也是算不准的.
毛子就吹吧,哪来的钱  毛子的民用工业一塌糊涂,央视新闻视频显示,毛子用装载机清理陨石造成的垃圾,装载 ...
柳工威武啊。。。
估计事先就想要的这个效果,接下来顺理成章的可以推行反陨石系统计划(估计是什么系统系统)。。
由此可见 如果没有那个神秘小光球  击穿陨石 导致其 落地之前解体, 破坏还要大得多?
这是骗科研立项吧?
才25亿?  三哥要买一个吗?
第一反应就是借机骗预算呢。。。


我一直就主张大国必须研究和建立反导和反彗星陨石的能力。假象不具备这种能力,而当敌国探测到己方不会被毁灭而会给对手带来毁灭性打击的话就不可想象了。第一步是要建立国际合作,首先是探测的分工,其次是可靠的打击手段研究,还有就是反对借机搞太空军备竞赛。明年还有一颗20余公里的陨石和地球擦肩而过,这是至2040年以来第二大的陨石,距地球也很近,这些都是现实威胁。

我一直就主张大国必须研究和建立反导和反彗星陨石的能力。假象不具备这种能力,而当敌国探测到己方不会被毁灭而会给对手带来毁灭性打击的话就不可想象了。第一步是要建立国际合作,首先是探测的分工,其次是可靠的打击手段研究,还有就是反对借机搞太空军备竞赛。明年还有一颗20余公里的陨石和地球擦肩而过,这是至2040年以来第二大的陨石,距地球也很近,这些都是现实威胁。
popcorn234 发表于 2013-2-20 08:03
毛子就吹吧,哪来的钱
毛子的民用工业一塌糊涂,央视新闻视频显示,毛子用装载机清理陨石造成的垃圾,装载 ...
那个航母的锅炉再爆炸一下,不就有钱了
莫谈国事 发表于 2013-2-20 08:37
按装喷射器太复杂了,因为小行星表面成分未知,成功率也不高。如果时间充裕的话,目前用卫星去绕是最好 ...
要让陨石改变轨道,小卫星得飞椭圆形轨迹吧。这得带多少燃料过去不停的做改变方向的飞行?利用太阳能转化为电能,不再用其他介质,能让飞行器在太空中改变方向么?感觉太科幻了,而且二者质量对比要在一定范围内,以百公斤级别卫星改变十几吨陨石的路线,也许时间足够长可以。
东方亮 发表于 2013-2-20 10:12
我一直就主张大国必须研究和建立反导和反彗星陨石的能力。假象不具备这种能力,而当敌国探测到己方不会被毁 ...
这个国际合作有点儿难度,因为牵涉到核导弹。出钱可以,核心机密都唔得很紧的。毛子这次也明显追翁之意不在酒。
popcorn234 发表于 2013-2-20 08:03
毛子就吹吧,哪来的钱
毛子的民用工业一塌糊涂,央视新闻视频显示,毛子用装载机清理陨石造成的垃圾,装载 ...


柳工情绪稳定的围观毛子。。
leekkeek 发表于 2013-2-20 09:12
其实,我觉得,即使科学家觉得不会烧完,也不一定会公布.
第一,真的没有应对手段.
第二,其实,就连这可陨石 ...
而且引起恐慌,不和谐。。。
少卿 发表于 2013-2-20 08:14
直径17米,比巡航导弹打多了,看视频,红外辐射那么显著,应该比导弹容易发现的多,如果说熊的航空兵一点 ...
速度比导弹快多了
wszaa 发表于 2013-2-20 09:08
毛子地大物博 我们竟然还敢吹自己地大物博 打脸啊
废话,地大物博也是相对于世界上其他大多数国家来说的,怎么样不服?还有,劝你赶紧把“啊”前面两个字修改了,免得触犯版规版主手抖
LantianYY 发表于 2013-2-21 07:20
废话,地大物博也是相对于世界上其他大多数国家来说的,怎么样不服?还有,劝你赶紧把“啊”前面两个字修 ...
莫怕,有别的版主手抖了两次,上论坛难道是为了升级,挣分吗?发表下意见。
版主肚里能撑船,“打脸”这两个字不算违规。
wszaa 发表于 2013-2-20 09:08
毛子地大物博 我们竟然还敢吹自己地大物博 打脸啊
中国说地大物博没错,但一人均就悲剧了
广东的大海 发表于 2013-2-21 09:31
中国说地大物博没错,但一人均就悲剧了
我们缺铜 这是事实 悲剧的是 铜的用量太大了 当然银子也缺 西伯利亚啥都有 那里火山群多的很
wszaa 发表于 2013-2-21 09:53
我们缺铜 这是事实 悲剧的是 铜的用量太大了 当然银子也缺 西伯利亚啥都有 那里火山群多的很
地大物博只是各种资源种类多,但不一定什么都要有,而且中国有铜矿,比大部分国家都多,问题是中国人口太多,所以相对来说就是贫铜国