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请看红字部分,美帝“直接”向兔子再次声明钓鱼岛适用日美安保条约这一立场没有改变。但是美帝又反复说“太平洋够大,容得下中美两国”,总体看起来还是比较弱气,不那么强硬。
搞笑的是,记者追问,你对日本的反应也采取同样的观点吗?日本可也派飞机进入了这一空域啊。美帝发言人:额,我的意思是,要避免任何可能引发紧张局势的行动(潜台词:干儿子派飞机也是不行的?)

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/2012/12/202057.htm#CHINA
QUESTION: On the Chinese plane flying over the Senkaku Island airspace, Toria said that she had – she didn’t have anything new to say. And yet to me it seems like quite a bit of escalation, and I think the Japanese Government considered it such as well. Does the State Department really believe that this is nothing new, this air incursion?

MR. VENTRELL: Well, let me just say that we are concerned by the flight of a Chinese Government airplane near the Senkakus. It’s important to avoid actions that raise tensions and to prevent miscalculations that could undermine peace, security, and economic growth in the region. And so we’ve raised our concerns with the Chinese Government directly and made clear that U.S. policy and commitments regarding the Senkakus Islands are longstanding and have not changed.

QUESTION: Are you equally concerned by the Japanese response? I mean, the Japanese also put planes in the area.

MR. VENTRELL: I mean, we think it’s important to avoid any actions that raise tensions.

QUESTION: Have you said that to the Japanese in relation to this specific incident?

MR. VENTRELL: I mean, we’ve been in discussion with the Japanese about the incident, but I don’t have anything further for you.

QUESTION: Can I just follow it?

MR. VENTRELL: Is this still on the Senkakus?

QUESTION: On China.

MR. VENTRELL: Okay. Well, let’s go to him and then – okay.

QUESTION: So now the Chinese are saying that they’re concerned they’re send air force over Senkakus against Japanese air self-defense force protecting the area. Don’t you – do you think it’s too aggressive and very provocative action, you know, air intrusions?

MR. VENTRELL: I think I just said that we’re concerned and we think it’s very important to avoid actions that raise tensions. So we are concerned.

Goyal.

QUESTION: A number of nations say in the region are really worried about Chinese aggression and Chinese presence, Chinese buildup and Chinese threat to the Philippines and Japan and other nations, and also now India is also starting worrying. And White House said other day that they are concerned. This building and the State Department, are you concerned or are you worried or are you – what kind of action are you going to take, or just talking with the Chinese? Because right now, I think just talking will not solve the ongoing rising problem and rising military strength by the Chinese in the region.

MR. VENTRELL: Well, Goyal, I think you’ve heard the Secretary say before that the Pacific is big enough for all of us. We obviously have an extensive relationship with the Chinese where we’re able to work through the whole breadth of the relationship, from the economic to the security. But the Pacific is big enough for all of us.

QUESTION: You think the Chinese are taking this action because of U.S. presence now because since U.S. has announced that the future focus of U.S. and international community will be Asia?

MR. VENTRELL: Well, I wouldn’t speculate on Chinese actions. But clearly, we’ve been clear about why we’re pivoting toward Asia and the actions that we’re taking and the important alliances we have there and the important work that we do with our partners across the region.

请看红字部分,美帝“直接”向兔子再次声明钓鱼岛适用日美安保条约这一立场没有改变。但是美帝又反复说“太平洋够大,容得下中美两国”,总体看起来还是比较弱气,不那么强硬。
搞笑的是,记者追问,你对日本的反应也采取同样的观点吗?日本可也派飞机进入了这一空域啊。美帝发言人:额,我的意思是,要避免任何可能引发紧张局势的行动(潜台词:干儿子派飞机也是不行的?)

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/2012/12/202057.htm#CHINA
QUESTION: On the Chinese plane flying over the Senkaku Island airspace, Toria said that she had – she didn’t have anything new to say. And yet to me it seems like quite a bit of escalation, and I think the Japanese Government considered it such as well. Does the State Department really believe that this is nothing new, this air incursion?

MR. VENTRELL: Well, let me just say that we are concerned by the flight of a Chinese Government airplane near the Senkakus. It’s important to avoid actions that raise tensions and to prevent miscalculations that could undermine peace, security, and economic growth in the region. And so we’ve raised our concerns with the Chinese Government directly and made clear that U.S. policy and commitments regarding the Senkakus Islands are longstanding and have not changed.

QUESTION: Are you equally concerned by the Japanese response? I mean, the Japanese also put planes in the area.

MR. VENTRELL: I mean, we think it’s important to avoid any actions that raise tensions.

QUESTION: Have you said that to the Japanese in relation to this specific incident?

MR. VENTRELL: I mean, we’ve been in discussion with the Japanese about the incident, but I don’t have anything further for you.

QUESTION: Can I just follow it?

MR. VENTRELL: Is this still on the Senkakus?

QUESTION: On China.

MR. VENTRELL: Okay. Well, let’s go to him and then – okay.

QUESTION: So now the Chinese are saying that they’re concerned they’re send air force over Senkakus against Japanese air self-defense force protecting the area. Don’t you – do you think it’s too aggressive and very provocative action, you know, air intrusions?

MR. VENTRELL: I think I just said that we’re concerned and we think it’s very important to avoid actions that raise tensions. So we are concerned.

Goyal.

QUESTION: A number of nations say in the region are really worried about Chinese aggression and Chinese presence, Chinese buildup and Chinese threat to the Philippines and Japan and other nations, and also now India is also starting worrying. And White House said other day that they are concerned. This building and the State Department, are you concerned or are you worried or are you – what kind of action are you going to take, or just talking with the Chinese? Because right now, I think just talking will not solve the ongoing rising problem and rising military strength by the Chinese in the region.

MR. VENTRELL: Well, Goyal, I think you’ve heard the Secretary say before that the Pacific is big enough for all of us. We obviously have an extensive relationship with the Chinese where we’re able to work through the whole breadth of the relationship, from the economic to the security. But the Pacific is big enough for all of us.

QUESTION: You think the Chinese are taking this action because of U.S. presence now because since U.S. has announced that the future focus of U.S. and international community will be Asia?

MR. VENTRELL: Well, I wouldn’t speculate on Chinese actions. But clearly, we’ve been clear about why we’re pivoting toward Asia and the actions that we’re taking and the important alliances we have there and the important work that we do with our partners across the region.
还钱,还钱,还钱!!!
不管它,要强力施压,安保条约,只是你们二国的事情.
我倒想知道中东和远东MD怎么兼顾
做最坏打算,争取最好结果.
fbirds 发表于 2012-12-15 21:57
不管它,要强力施压,安保条约,只是你们二国的事情.
美帝这是亮底牌么?可是看后面的发言,遮遮掩掩,不霸气啊
就不能全翻译出来给我们看啊
blackbox 发表于 2012-12-15 21:58
做最坏打算,争取最好结果.
586借用《谍影重重》的这句经典台词,看来要流行了
个人见解,这段话不能直接解释为安保条约吧,这里并没有明确policy和commitment,比较模糊。也可以理解为支持霓虹对钓鱼岛的治权,主权未定
凉水水 发表于 2012-12-15 21:58
美帝这是亮底牌么?可是看后面的发言,遮遮掩掩,不霸气啊
亮什么底牌,这是被日本逼急了,给点安慰.真打起来,不好说.
狭路相逢勇者胜
做好痛击美狗的全面准备{:soso_e192:}
哟~~~我都吓得尿了日本一脸……
你打你的,我打我的

擦,我没签过的纸就是手纸。
我倒想知道中东和远东MD怎么兼顾
弃犹保日,一鸟2石。奥黑的大手笔,就不知会不会被人干掉
起个破名想半年 发表于 2012-12-15 22:01
个人见解,这段话不能直接解释为安保条约吧,这里并没有明确policy和commitment,比较模糊。也可以理解为支 ...
请问一下兄弟,这段对话是什么意思?我没看懂。
QUESTION: Can I just follow it?

MR. VENTRELL: Is this still on the Senkakus?

QUESTION: On China.

MR. VENTRELL: Okay. Well, let’s go to him and then – okay.
美帝的意思是你们都先冷静着,不要真打起来,等我搞定其他事情再说?
ok,一次性来吧,琉球都是我的,巡航之
切,敢开火的话,那九架F15就回不去了
兔子没签过的都是手纸,你们的手纸管我鸟事儿!不过哥还是被吓尿了!尿脚盆一脸!
弃犹保日,一鸟2石。奥黑的大手笔,就不知会不会被人干掉
石油美元不要了么?
反复抽插日美安保条约的G点。

继续啊。
美国会支持日本对钓鱼岛乃至钓鱼岛所代表的琉球群岛的托管权,因为琉球属于日本就相当于琉球属于美国。

对中国来说,则应该强调如果美将钓鱼岛列入美日安保条约范围,那么攻击钓鱼岛和攻击东京在法理上就是一样的,那么在钓鱼岛列入安保条约之后,一旦钓鱼岛有事,中国会直接攻击日本本土。

打或不打以及怎么打这个问题中国已经不需考虑,从历史经验来看,海权的争端必有一战,英国和西班牙,美国和西班牙之间早就证明了。中国早就应该放弃幻想,在需要的时候敢打能打并且能打胜,争取在2030之前能够和md平分太平洋,并且能够威胁世界范围内md及其盟友控制的重要水道,那个时候,中国才算是初步具备了和md一争雄长的实力
兔子又不是吓大的
你不要中东了吗
凉水水 发表于 2012-12-15 22:07
请问一下兄弟,这段对话是什么意思?我没看懂。
QUESTION: Can I just follow it?
根据上下文的意思,这位记者雄逮已经问了好几个问题了,在这段话之前他问发言人霓虹派军事肥鸡的问题以及王师和脚盆政府沟通的问题,最后发言人说他没有更多的信息了。

所以,这位记者雄逮见风使舵问是否还可以再问一个问题。发言人问还是有关钓鱼岛嘛,雄逮说是有关兔子。发言人说可以,让另一个记者雄逮先问,让后乃再问。

看起来,雄逮乃反红的那个问题也是这位记者问的,他的问题都是比较刁钻,可以有煽动性的回答,说不定是王师的托
干。别管美国人怎么说。丫的现在既没钱,也没有勇气打一场大规模战争。

如果开战,俄国人是最大的得益者。中美两败俱伤,日本废了。美国人不傻。

所以,尽管干!
即使兔子再次光脚也要啃掉鹰翅膀
再次声明。。。又反复说。。。
MD牌复读机...
skypee 发表于 2012-12-15 22:11
石油美元不要了么?
再过几年美国自己地石油都可以自给自足了,以后应该会是粮食美元吧
起个破名想半年 发表于 2012-12-15 22:20
根据上下文的意思,这位记者雄逮已经问了好几个问题了,在这段话之前他问发言人霓虹派军事肥鸡的问题以及 ...
多谢多谢,这只看文字稿的确看不出是不同的记者在问,我还以为这都是一个人在问的。
脚盆还说要攻击中国渔政船呢,MD说了又怎么样?国与国之间就幼儿园的水平,你牛逼,你来搞我撒,MD可从来没跟塔利班废话
MD现在在天朝眼里算什么呀?
rubbish 发表于 2012-12-15 22:15
美国会支持日本对钓鱼岛乃至钓鱼岛所代表的琉球群岛的托管权,因为琉球属于日本就相当于琉球属于美国。

...
虽然从王师法理的角度而言,兔子攻击霓虹本土和钓鱼岛是一个限制。但是真正从王师及霓虹政府可能的反应而言,这两件是的影响是不可相提并论的,一个是和霓虹的全面战争,一个可能是局部战争,虽然不一定是低烈度。这样王师反应的可选性就大了。安保条约并没有规定一定要出兵,一定要军事行动支持,也没有规定行动的时限,这里面的可操作性使很大的。别看王师强调其有效性,到时候,让霓虹用GPS知道就可以解释为履行了义务。但是如果兔子攻击东京,只信息共享恐怕就说不过去了。
nicklee0085 发表于 2012-12-15 22:05
弃犹保日,一鸟2石。奥黑的大手笔,就不知会不会被人干掉
奥黑真以为世界末日到了?弃犹?还不知道谁被弃呢?!
美帝现在也是嘴炮无敌,Av儿子失望中
老大威胁老二,互相都能核平,有意思么,先把伊朗搞定吧
wuchenh 发表于 2012-12-15 22:33
奥黑真以为世界末日到了?弃犹?还不知道谁被弃呢?!
所以我说他可能被干掉啊
要允许胆小的人和胆大的人有不同的解毒~~~