超级军网终于搞到M1A1被神秘武器击穿的组图和详细报道了!
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October 27, 2003
‘Something’ felled an M1A1 Abrams tank in Iraq – but what?
Mystery behind Aug. 28 incident puzzles Army officials
By John Roos
Special to the Times
Shortly before dawn on Aug. 28, an M1A1 Abrams tank on routine patrol in Baghdad “was hit by something” that crippled the 69-ton behemoth.
Army officials still are puzzling over what that “something” was.
According to an unclassified Army report, the mystery projectile punched through the vehicle’s skirt and drilled a pencil-sized hole through the hull. The hole was so small that “my little finger will not go into it,” the report’s author noted.
The “something” continued into the crew compartment, where it passed through the gunner’s seatback, grazed the kidney area of the gunner’s flak jacket and finally came to rest after boring a hole 1½ to 2 inches deep in the hull on the far side of the tank.
As it passed through the interior, it hit enough critical components to knock the tank out of action. That made the tank one of only two Abrams disabled by enemy fire during the Iraq war and one of only a handful of “mobility kills” since they first rumbled onto the scene 20 years ago. The other Abrams knocked out this year in Iraq was hit by an RPG-7, a rocket-propelled grenade.
Experts believe whatever it is that knocked out the tank in August was not an RPG-7 but most likely something new — and that worries tank drivers.
Mystery and anxiety
Terry Hughes is a technical representative from Rock Island Arsenal, Ill., who examined the tank in Baghdad and wrote the report.
In the sort of excited language seldom included in official Army documents, he said, “The unit is very anxious to have this ‘SOMETHING’ identified. It seems clear that a penetrator of a yellow molten metal is what caused the damage, but what weapon fires such a round and precisely what sort of round is it? The bad guys are using something unknown and the guys facing it want very much to know what it is and how they can defend themselves.”
Nevertheless, the Abrams continues its record of providing extraordinary crew protection. The four-man crew suffered only minor injuries in the attack. The tank commander received “minor shrapnel wounds to the legs and arms and the gunner got some in his arm” as a result of the attack, according to the report.
Whatever penetrated the tank created enough heat inside the hull to activate the vehicle’s Halon firefighting gear, which probably prevented more serious injuries to the crew.
The soldiers of 2nd Battalion, 70th Armor Regiment, 1st Armor Division who were targets of the attack weren’t the only ones wondering what damaged their 69-ton tank.
Hughes also was puzzled. “Can someone tell us?” he wrote. “If not, can we get an expert on foreign munitions over here to examine this vehicle before repairs are begun? Please respond quickly.”
His report went to the office of the combat systems program manager at the U.S. Army Tank-automotive and Armaments Command in Warren, Mich. A command spokesman said he could provide no information about the incident.
“The information is sensitive,” he said. “It looks like [members of the program manager’s office] are not going to release any information right now.”
While it’s impossible to determine what caused the damage without actually examining the tank, some conclusions can be drawn from photos that accompanied the incident report. Those photos show a pencil-size penetration hole through the tank body, but very little sign of the distinctive damage — called spalling — that typically occurs on the inside surface after a hollow- or shaped-charge warhead from an anti-tank weapon burns its way through armor.
Spalling results when an armor penetrator pushes a stream of molten metal ahead of it as it bores through an armored vehicle’s protective skin.
“It’s a real strange impact,” said a source who has worked both as a tank designer and as an anti-tank weapons engineer. “This is a new one. … It almost definitely is a hollow-charge warhead of some sort, but probably not an RPG-7” anti-tank rocket-propelled grenade.
The well-known RPG-7 has been the scourge of lightly armored vehicles since its introduction more than 40 years ago. Its hollow-charge warhead easily could punch through an M1’s skirt and the relatively thin armor of its armpit joint, the area above the tracks and beneath the deck on which the turret sits, just where the mystery round hit the tank.
An RPG-7 can penetrate about 12 inches of steel — a thickness far greater than the armor that was penetrated on the tank in Baghdad. But the limited spalling evident in the photos accompanying the incident report all but rules out the RPG-7 as the culprit, experts say.
Limited spalling is a telltale characteristic of Western-manufactured weapons designed to defeat armor with a cohesive jet stream of molten metal. In contrast, RPG-7s typically produce a fragmented jet spray.
The incident is so sensitive that most experts in the field would talk only on the condition that they not be identified.
One armor expert at Fort Knox, Ky., suggested the tank may have been hit by an updated RPG. About 15 years ago, Russian scientists created tandem-warhead anti-tank-grenades designed to defeat reactive armor. The new round, a PG-7VR, can be fired from an RPG-7V launcher and might have left the unusual signature on the tank.
In addition, the Russians have developed an improved weapon, the RPG-22. These and perhaps even newer variants have been used against American forces in Afghanistan. It is believed U.S. troops seized some that have been returned to the United States for testing, but scant details about their effects and “fingerprints” are available.
Still another possibility is a retrofitted warhead for the RPG system being developed by a Swiss manufacturer.
At this time, it appears most likely that an RPG-22 or some other improved variant of the Russian-designed weapon damaged the M1 tank, sources concluded. The damage certainly was caused by some sort of shaped-charge or hollow-charge warhead, and the cohesive nature of the destructive jet suggests a more effective weapon than a fragmented-jet RPG-7.
A spokesman for General Dynamics Land Systems, which manufactures the Abrams, said company engineers agree some type of RPG probably caused the damage. After checking with them, the spokesman delivered the manufacturer’s verdict: The tank was hit by “a ‘golden’ RPG” — an extremely lucky shot.
In the end, a civilian weapons expert said, “I hope it was a lucky shot and we are not part of someone’s test program. Being a live target is no fun.”
John Roos is editor of Armed Forces Journal, which is owned by Army Times Publishing Co.
文章转自armytimes
‘Something’ felled an M1A1 Abrams tank in Iraq – but what?
Mystery behind Aug. 28 incident puzzles Army officials
By John Roos
Special to the Times
Shortly before dawn on Aug. 28, an M1A1 Abrams tank on routine patrol in Baghdad “was hit by something” that crippled the 69-ton behemoth.
Army officials still are puzzling over what that “something” was.
According to an unclassified Army report, the mystery projectile punched through the vehicle’s skirt and drilled a pencil-sized hole through the hull. The hole was so small that “my little finger will not go into it,” the report’s author noted.
The “something” continued into the crew compartment, where it passed through the gunner’s seatback, grazed the kidney area of the gunner’s flak jacket and finally came to rest after boring a hole 1½ to 2 inches deep in the hull on the far side of the tank.
As it passed through the interior, it hit enough critical components to knock the tank out of action. That made the tank one of only two Abrams disabled by enemy fire during the Iraq war and one of only a handful of “mobility kills” since they first rumbled onto the scene 20 years ago. The other Abrams knocked out this year in Iraq was hit by an RPG-7, a rocket-propelled grenade.
Experts believe whatever it is that knocked out the tank in August was not an RPG-7 but most likely something new — and that worries tank drivers.
Mystery and anxiety
Terry Hughes is a technical representative from Rock Island Arsenal, Ill., who examined the tank in Baghdad and wrote the report.
In the sort of excited language seldom included in official Army documents, he said, “The unit is very anxious to have this ‘SOMETHING’ identified. It seems clear that a penetrator of a yellow molten metal is what caused the damage, but what weapon fires such a round and precisely what sort of round is it? The bad guys are using something unknown and the guys facing it want very much to know what it is and how they can defend themselves.”
Nevertheless, the Abrams continues its record of providing extraordinary crew protection. The four-man crew suffered only minor injuries in the attack. The tank commander received “minor shrapnel wounds to the legs and arms and the gunner got some in his arm” as a result of the attack, according to the report.
Whatever penetrated the tank created enough heat inside the hull to activate the vehicle’s Halon firefighting gear, which probably prevented more serious injuries to the crew.
The soldiers of 2nd Battalion, 70th Armor Regiment, 1st Armor Division who were targets of the attack weren’t the only ones wondering what damaged their 69-ton tank.
Hughes also was puzzled. “Can someone tell us?” he wrote. “If not, can we get an expert on foreign munitions over here to examine this vehicle before repairs are begun? Please respond quickly.”
His report went to the office of the combat systems program manager at the U.S. Army Tank-automotive and Armaments Command in Warren, Mich. A command spokesman said he could provide no information about the incident.
“The information is sensitive,” he said. “It looks like [members of the program manager’s office] are not going to release any information right now.”
While it’s impossible to determine what caused the damage without actually examining the tank, some conclusions can be drawn from photos that accompanied the incident report. Those photos show a pencil-size penetration hole through the tank body, but very little sign of the distinctive damage — called spalling — that typically occurs on the inside surface after a hollow- or shaped-charge warhead from an anti-tank weapon burns its way through armor.
Spalling results when an armor penetrator pushes a stream of molten metal ahead of it as it bores through an armored vehicle’s protective skin.
“It’s a real strange impact,” said a source who has worked both as a tank designer and as an anti-tank weapons engineer. “This is a new one. … It almost definitely is a hollow-charge warhead of some sort, but probably not an RPG-7” anti-tank rocket-propelled grenade.
The well-known RPG-7 has been the scourge of lightly armored vehicles since its introduction more than 40 years ago. Its hollow-charge warhead easily could punch through an M1’s skirt and the relatively thin armor of its armpit joint, the area above the tracks and beneath the deck on which the turret sits, just where the mystery round hit the tank.
An RPG-7 can penetrate about 12 inches of steel — a thickness far greater than the armor that was penetrated on the tank in Baghdad. But the limited spalling evident in the photos accompanying the incident report all but rules out the RPG-7 as the culprit, experts say.
Limited spalling is a telltale characteristic of Western-manufactured weapons designed to defeat armor with a cohesive jet stream of molten metal. In contrast, RPG-7s typically produce a fragmented jet spray.
The incident is so sensitive that most experts in the field would talk only on the condition that they not be identified.
One armor expert at Fort Knox, Ky., suggested the tank may have been hit by an updated RPG. About 15 years ago, Russian scientists created tandem-warhead anti-tank-grenades designed to defeat reactive armor. The new round, a PG-7VR, can be fired from an RPG-7V launcher and might have left the unusual signature on the tank.
In addition, the Russians have developed an improved weapon, the RPG-22. These and perhaps even newer variants have been used against American forces in Afghanistan. It is believed U.S. troops seized some that have been returned to the United States for testing, but scant details about their effects and “fingerprints” are available.
Still another possibility is a retrofitted warhead for the RPG system being developed by a Swiss manufacturer.
At this time, it appears most likely that an RPG-22 or some other improved variant of the Russian-designed weapon damaged the M1 tank, sources concluded. The damage certainly was caused by some sort of shaped-charge or hollow-charge warhead, and the cohesive nature of the destructive jet suggests a more effective weapon than a fragmented-jet RPG-7.
A spokesman for General Dynamics Land Systems, which manufactures the Abrams, said company engineers agree some type of RPG probably caused the damage. After checking with them, the spokesman delivered the manufacturer’s verdict: The tank was hit by “a ‘golden’ RPG” — an extremely lucky shot.
In the end, a civilian weapons expert said, “I hope it was a lucky shot and we are not part of someone’s test program. Being a live target is no fun.”
John Roos is editor of Armed Forces Journal, which is owned by Army Times Publishing Co.
文章转自armytimes
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证据够详细的了吧,大家快来破案啊!老美还没下结论呐,大家七嘴八舌凑凑线索没人笑话.
美军坦克也有豆腐渣!
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天煞！！！
哎～～开防道门不错
好消息呀
就是RPG之类的东西打在裙板接缝处，使射流未受阻挡到达车体。
可以看中正好击中接缝处
裙板后的装甲正是薄弱处
射流到里面后已经被拉散
幸亏RPG的威力不大，隔着裙板爆炸也增大了射流的通过距离，否则里面的人就惨了。
可以看中正好击中接缝处
裙板后的装甲正是薄弱处
射流到里面后已经被拉散
幸亏RPG的威力不大，隔着裙板爆炸也增大了射流的通过距离，否则里面的人就惨了。
有点长`~~~~
看<<环球时报>>吧,今天报道了
11月5号,第10版,不过没有图片资料
11月5号,第10版,不过没有图片资料
正如DBOY兄所言。
2003年10月27日
在伊拉克，“不明物体”击毁了一辆艾布拉姆M1A1坦克
时代周刊特派员约翰.路斯报道
在前不久8月28日，一辆艾布拉姆M1A1坦克在巴格达例行巡逻的时候，“不明物”将这个69吨的大家伙击毁了。陆军军官也不清楚是什么东西击穿了坦克。
依照一分陆军的公开报告，一个神秘物体击穿了坦克的裙板和外壳，并留下了一个铅笔大小的孔。笔者还写到：这么小的孔以至于我的小拇指也塞不进去。
这个神秘物进入坦克内之后还有很大的威力。它穿过了坦克乘员的座椅靠背，从坦克操作员防弹衣的腰部擦过，最后又在坦克内部对面的装甲板上钻入二英寸。
在它穿越坦克内部的时候还击中了许多坦克作战必需的关键设备，包括地形网络箱，使这辆坦克无法正常执行任务。从刚刚结束的伊拉克战争开始至今，只有两辆坦克被敌人的炮火击中而退出战斗，这一辆是其中之一。另外一辆是在今年伊拉克战争开始后被伊军RPG-7型火箭弹击中。
分析家也说铜是一种可用于穿甲弹的材料，包括火箭弹及反坦克弹药。
神秘物和渴望
泰勒.休斯是从罗克岛武器中心派到巴格达对此问题进行调查的技术代表之一。他检查了这辆在巴格达的坦克，并写了一份报告。
他在最后提交的报告中用美官员文件中少有的过于激动的语言写道：部队非常渴望对这一神秘物进行确认。看起来穿透坦克的是一颗黄色的熔铸金属，但是是什么样的武器将它发射出来的？这是一种什么样的子弹？那些坏家伙用了我们无法知道的手段来对付我们。士兵们非常想知道它是什么以及怎样来保护他们自己。
在报告中说道，尽管如此，阿布拉姆斯依然保持了对乘员具有高度保护作用的记录。在这次攻击中四个成员只受到的轻微的伤害。坦克指挥官只是腿和手部被轻微地擦伤，炮手在胳膊上被擦伤。
但是，这一神秘物却在坦克内产生了大量的热能，使坦克内装的“哈龙”防火器自动开启。也可能正是由于防火器的工作最大限度地减少了对乘员的伤害。
被击中的坦克是第一装甲师第70装甲团的第2营的。很多人都非常想知道是什么对这一69吨重的庞然大物造成这么大的破坏。
休斯在报告中写道：“一些士兵告诉我说，如果我们现在还找不出原因，是不是在对坦克进行修理之前可以派外国弹药专家来对这一问题进行调查。”
他的报告送交给了陆军坦克与武器司令部的作战系统计划主管。该司令部的一位发言人却说，他无法提供任何消息。
下班了~~~
明天继续~~
呵呵 ~~~~~~~~~.
翻得不好别骂我~~[em11][em11][em11]
在伊拉克，“不明物体”击毁了一辆艾布拉姆M1A1坦克
时代周刊特派员约翰.路斯报道
在前不久8月28日，一辆艾布拉姆M1A1坦克在巴格达例行巡逻的时候，“不明物”将这个69吨的大家伙击毁了。陆军军官也不清楚是什么东西击穿了坦克。
依照一分陆军的公开报告，一个神秘物体击穿了坦克的裙板和外壳，并留下了一个铅笔大小的孔。笔者还写到：这么小的孔以至于我的小拇指也塞不进去。
这个神秘物进入坦克内之后还有很大的威力。它穿过了坦克乘员的座椅靠背，从坦克操作员防弹衣的腰部擦过，最后又在坦克内部对面的装甲板上钻入二英寸。
在它穿越坦克内部的时候还击中了许多坦克作战必需的关键设备，包括地形网络箱，使这辆坦克无法正常执行任务。从刚刚结束的伊拉克战争开始至今，只有两辆坦克被敌人的炮火击中而退出战斗，这一辆是其中之一。另外一辆是在今年伊拉克战争开始后被伊军RPG-7型火箭弹击中。
分析家也说铜是一种可用于穿甲弹的材料，包括火箭弹及反坦克弹药。
神秘物和渴望
泰勒.休斯是从罗克岛武器中心派到巴格达对此问题进行调查的技术代表之一。他检查了这辆在巴格达的坦克，并写了一份报告。
他在最后提交的报告中用美官员文件中少有的过于激动的语言写道：部队非常渴望对这一神秘物进行确认。看起来穿透坦克的是一颗黄色的熔铸金属，但是是什么样的武器将它发射出来的？这是一种什么样的子弹？那些坏家伙用了我们无法知道的手段来对付我们。士兵们非常想知道它是什么以及怎样来保护他们自己。
在报告中说道，尽管如此，阿布拉姆斯依然保持了对乘员具有高度保护作用的记录。在这次攻击中四个成员只受到的轻微的伤害。坦克指挥官只是腿和手部被轻微地擦伤，炮手在胳膊上被擦伤。
但是，这一神秘物却在坦克内产生了大量的热能，使坦克内装的“哈龙”防火器自动开启。也可能正是由于防火器的工作最大限度地减少了对乘员的伤害。
被击中的坦克是第一装甲师第70装甲团的第2营的。很多人都非常想知道是什么对这一69吨重的庞然大物造成这么大的破坏。
休斯在报告中写道：“一些士兵告诉我说，如果我们现在还找不出原因，是不是在对坦克进行修理之前可以派外国弹药专家来对这一问题进行调查。”
他的报告送交给了陆军坦克与武器司令部的作战系统计划主管。该司令部的一位发言人却说，他无法提供任何消息。
下班了~~~
明天继续~~
呵呵 ~~~~~~~~~.
翻得不好别骂我~~[em11][em11][em11]
我知道了,是毛主席他老人家@!
[此贴子已经被作者于2003-11-5 22:18:56编辑过]
猛 啊！下次还打这！
好！！！
以下是引用dboy在2003-11-5 10:19:00的发言：
就是RPG之类的东西打在裙板接缝处，使射流未受阻挡到达车体。
可以看中正好击中接缝处
裙板后的装甲正是薄弱处
射流到里面后已经被拉散
同意
幸亏RPG的威力不大，隔着裙板爆炸也增大了射流的通过距离，否则里面的人就惨了。
转一位高人的所言：
击中的部位根本没有贫铀，弹着点如向上移动5cm,车里不会用明显的感觉；弹着点如向下移动5cm,不大可能穿过装甲；要是在靶场，可能打100次都打不到这个缝里
总结：打RPG的这个伊拉克人是走了狗屎运了
击中的部位根本没有贫铀，弹着点如向上移动5cm,车里不会用明显的感觉；弹着点如向下移动5cm,不大可能穿过装甲；要是在靶场，可能打100次都打不到这个缝里
总结：打RPG的这个伊拉克人是走了狗屎运了
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裙板+0.5米间隔+侧甲+约2米间隔，再到对面侧甲
如果这是普通RPG-7弹药造成的，那全世界搞了这么多年的间隔装甲，岂不是白忙活？
如果这是普通RPG-7弹药造成的，那全世界搞了这么多年的间隔装甲，岂不是白忙活？
百年难得一遇的巧事，伊拉克人还能有什么新式武器，有也不会等到现在才用了！！
好图！
很难说，也许是从黑市买来的激光武器?!
惊弓之鸟。