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直播员]腾讯新闻: 【最新消息：美国调查机构称MH370失联后仍在飞行】据华尔街日报网站报道，美国调查机构怀疑马航370航班在失联后仍处飞行状态，引擎数据显示马航失联航班总计飞行5个小时，这就增加了失联客机坠落距现在失联地点以外几百英里地方的可能性。
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直播员]腾讯新闻: 【最新消息：美国调查机构称MH370失联后仍在飞行】据华尔街日报网站报道，美国调查机构怀疑马航370航班在失联后仍处飞行状态，引擎数据显示马航失联航班总计飞行5个小时，这就增加了失联客机坠落距现在失联地点以外几百英里地方的可能性。
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这尼玛什么情况怎么不早点说
真是气死人，祈祷吧
5小时那不是要在马六甲画一个2000公里的圈！5个小时，大马到北京要6个小时，哪去了？
这个人引擎数据哪来的？？？？？？？？？？？？？？？？
5小时踪迹,雷达看不到吗？
引擎数据哪儿来的？
什么叫“引擎数据“，发动机中有单独的专门发送数据的东西？那所有飞机都得好好查查了
远走不高飞 发表于 2014-3-13 12:59
这个人引擎数据哪来的？？？？？？？？？？？？？？？？
现代大型客机的发动机制造商，是通过卫星对发动机进行实时健康监测的。
但貌似这个数据一般只对客户公开吧。这次事情可能因托太久了，消息被泄露出来。
这个人引擎数据哪来的？？？？？？？？？？？？？？？？
现代大型客机的发动机制造商，是通过卫星对发动机进行实时健康监测的。
但貌似这个数据一般只对客户公开吧。这次事情可能因托太久了，消息被泄露出来。
引擎数据显示，这个是怎么拿来的，还有啥没拿出来的！
引擎数据自动发到波音公司还是发动机所属公司
每小时1千公里，谷歌地球量一下，5小时到中东
从马来西亚官方说得凌晨2点半失联，那么今天调查的可能是飞机失联后发动机仍然运行了5个小时，那是不是说直到早上近8点钟后，马来西亚确定飞机无法挽回的情况下通报给北京的？
果然网上没猜错，前面说到马六甲了，下一步就说飞到印度洋了。。。
另一篇帖子说了，争夺权威发布权 这个时候老美出来了http://lt.cjdby.net/thread-1802121-1-1.html
远走不高飞 发表于 2014-3-13 12:59
这个人引擎数据哪来的？？？？？？？？？？？？？？？？
现在的民航客机的发动机都可以实现远程监控
如果发动机出现异常情况，GE公司会实事通知民航公司！！！
罗-罗公司目前是该领域的领先者！
这个人引擎数据哪来的？？？？？？？？？？？？？？？？
现在的民航客机的发动机都可以实现远程监控
如果发动机出现异常情况，GE公司会实事通知民航公司！！！
罗-罗公司目前是该领域的领先者！
有待进一步的调查。
查看卫星原始数据 有可能知道飞机在哪喽
战魂01 发表于 2014-3-13 13:03
引擎数据自动发到波音公司还是发动机所属公司
引擎数据自动发到罗罗公司。
不过波音和马航自己也可以监控到实时的飞机健康监测数据。上次韩亚在洛杉矶的空难，航空公司第一时间说飞机没有机械故障，就是依据这种实时监测数据。波音不会主动说话，他只对客户负责，罗罗也是。
马航这次如果连出事时间都给的含混不清，恐怕会有责任在里面。
引擎数据自动发到波音公司还是发动机所属公司
引擎数据自动发到罗罗公司。
不过波音和马航自己也可以监控到实时的飞机健康监测数据。上次韩亚在洛杉矶的空难，航空公司第一时间说飞机没有机械故障，就是依据这种实时监测数据。波音不会主动说话，他只对客户负责，罗罗也是。
马航这次如果连出事时间都给的含混不清，恐怕会有责任在里面。
越来越确定是电子雾武器了，有心人可以对比下此次马航和百慕大失踪的飞机报告。。
红色的蛋 发表于 2014-3-13 13:03
从马来西亚官方说得凌晨2点半失联，那么今天调查的可能是飞机失联后发动机仍然运行了5个小时，那是不是说直 ...
应该从1点20开始算。从发动机启动，跑道滑翔，起飞，降落，总的就是5小时40分钟左右，除开10分钟的起飞降落时间，实际飞行时间大概为5小时30分钟左右。大家从第一疑似失联点起，画个4500---5000公里的圈，看看都能到哪了？
红色的蛋 发表于 2014-3-13 13:03
从马来西亚官方说得凌晨2点半失联，那么今天调查的可能是飞机失联后发动机仍然运行了5个小时，那是不是说直 ...
应该从1点20开始算。从发动机启动，跑道滑翔，起飞，降落，总的就是5小时40分钟左右，除开10分钟的起飞降落时间，实际飞行时间大概为5小时30分钟左右。大家从第一疑似失联点起，画个4500---5000公里的圈，看看都能到哪了？
3月8日0点41分起飞+5个小时=5点41左右还在转动？
FalconYao 发表于 2014-3-13 13:02
引擎数据显示，这个是怎么拿来的，还有啥没拿出来的！
亲
这不是什么秘密！
这是一种先进的安全保障手段，更好的为客户服务!
引擎数据显示，这个是怎么拿来的，还有啥没拿出来的！
亲
这不是什么秘密！
这是一种先进的安全保障手段，更好的为客户服务!
ocean_hercules 发表于 2014-3-13 13:04
现在的民航客机的发动机都可以实现远程监控
如果发动机出现异常情况，GE公司会实事通知民航公司！！ ...
能不能对引擎进行定位啊
现在的民航客机的发动机都可以实现远程监控
如果发动机出现异常情况，GE公司会实事通知民航公司！！ ...
能不能对引擎进行定位啊
非洲某个驴叫国家？支持瓦哈比的？这可是天大的事，这是要引发世界大战的
那意思现在就很明显了，一开始马国就故意在隐瞒了。我屮艸芔茻
以后这些自动发送的信息应该要加定位信息了吧
ocean_hercules 发表于 2014-3-13 13:10
亲
这不是什么秘密！
所以罗罗不会主动公布这种可能令客户尴尬的信息。所以这种消息由“美国调查机构”放出。。
亲
这不是什么秘密！
所以罗罗不会主动公布这种可能令客户尴尬的信息。所以这种消息由“美国调查机构”放出。。
引擎的数据是通过卫星中转发射的吗？那只要通过卫星定位，至少可以知道飞往哪个方向
rolltide 发表于 2014-3-13 13:07
引擎数据自动发到罗罗公司。
不过波音和马航自己也可以监控到实时的飞机健康监测数据。上次韩亚在洛杉 ...
777用的是美国GE的发动机
GE也有全球数据监控中心！
引擎数据自动发到罗罗公司。
不过波音和马航自己也可以监控到实时的飞机健康监测数据。上次韩亚在洛杉 ...
777用的是美国GE的发动机
GE也有全球数据监控中心！
如果5个小时，那么飞机真的被劫持而且有可能降落到某地了
飞机引擎会实时传输数据的 方便供应商掌握引擎运行状态 以便处理一些突发情况...
毕竟供应商是最专业的
毕竟供应商是最专业的
ocean_hercules 发表于 2014-3-13 13:12
777用的是美国GE的发动机
GE也有全球数据监控中心！
这个777-200的是罗罗的吧。不是300ER的GE90。
777用的是美国GE的发动机
GE也有全球数据监控中心！
这个777-200的是罗罗的吧。不是300ER的GE90。
消息来源是 华尔街日报
链接：http://online.wsj.com/news/artic ... 4579434653903086282
Missing Airplane Flew On for Hours Engine Data Suggest Malaysia Flight Was Airborne Long After Radar Disappearance, U.S. Investigators Say
By ANDY PASZTOR Updated March 13, 2014 12:30 a.m. ET U.S. investigators suspect that Malaysia Airlines 3786.KU -2.04% Flight 370 stayed in the air for about four hours past the time it reached its last confirmed location, according to two people familiar with the details, raising the possibility that the plane could have flown on for hundreds of additional miles under conditions that remain murky.
Aviation investigators and national security officials believe the plane flew for a total of five hours based on data automatically downloaded and sent to the ground from the Boeing Co. BA -0.99% 777's engines as part of a routine maintenance and monitoring program.
That raises a host of new questions and possibilities about what happened aboard the widebody jet carrying 239 people, which vanished from civilian air-traffic control radar over the weekend, about one hour into a flight to Beijing from Kuala Lumpur.
Six days after the mysterious disappearance prompted a massive international air and water search that so far hasn't produced any results, the investigation appears to be broadening in scope.
U.S. counterterrorism officials are pursuing the possibility that a pilot or someone else on board the plane may have diverted it toward an undisclosed location after intentionally turning off the jetliner's transponders to avoid radar detection, according to one person tracking the probe.
The investigation remains fluid, and it isn't clear whether investigators have evidence indicating possible terrorism or espionage. So far, U.S. national security officials have said that nothing specifically points toward terrorism, though they haven't ruled it out.
But the huge uncertainty about where the plane was headed, and why it continued flying so long without working transponders, has raised theories among investigators that the aircraft may have been commandeered for a reason that appears unclear to U.S. authorities. Some of those theories have been laid out to national security officials and senior personnel from various U.S. agencies, according to one person familiar with the matter.
At one briefing, according to this person, officials were told investigators are actively pursuing the notion that the plane was diverted "with the intention of using it later for another purpose."
As of Wednesday it remained unclear whether the plane reached an alternate destination or if it ultimately crashed, potentially hundreds of miles from where an international search effort has been focused.
In those scenarios, neither mechanical problems, pilot mistakes nor some other type of catastrophic incident caused the 250-ton plane to mysteriously vanish from radar.
The latest revelations come as local media reported that Malaysian police visited the home of at least one of the two pilots.
Boeing officials and a Malaysia Airlines official declined to comment.
The engines' onboard monitoring system is provided by their manufacturer, Rolls-Royce RR.LN -1.71% PLC, and it periodically sends bursts of data about engine health, operations and aircraft movements to facilities on the ground.
Rolls-Royce couldn't immediately be reached for comment.
As part of its maintenance agreements, Malaysia Airlines transmits its engine data live to Rolls-Royce for analysis. The system compiles data from inside the 777's two Trent 800 engines and transmits snapshots of performance, as well as the altitude and speed of the jet.
Those snippets are compiled and transmitted in 30-minute increments, said one person familiar with the system. According to Rolls-Royce's website, the data is processed automatically "so that subtle changes in condition from one flight to another can be detected."
The engine data is being analyzed to help determine the flight path of the plane after the transponders stopped working. The jet was originally headed for China, and its last verified position was half way across the Gulf of Thailand.
A total flight time of five hours after departing Kuala Lumpur means the Boeing 777 could have continued for an additional distance of about 2,200 nautical miles, reaching points as far as the Indian Ocean, the border of Pakistan or even the Arabian Sea, based on the jet's cruising speed.
链接：http://online.wsj.com/news/artic ... 4579434653903086282
Missing Airplane Flew On for Hours Engine Data Suggest Malaysia Flight Was Airborne Long After Radar Disappearance, U.S. Investigators Say
By ANDY PASZTOR Updated March 13, 2014 12:30 a.m. ET U.S. investigators suspect that Malaysia Airlines 3786.KU -2.04% Flight 370 stayed in the air for about four hours past the time it reached its last confirmed location, according to two people familiar with the details, raising the possibility that the plane could have flown on for hundreds of additional miles under conditions that remain murky.
Aviation investigators and national security officials believe the plane flew for a total of five hours based on data automatically downloaded and sent to the ground from the Boeing Co. BA -0.99% 777's engines as part of a routine maintenance and monitoring program.
That raises a host of new questions and possibilities about what happened aboard the widebody jet carrying 239 people, which vanished from civilian air-traffic control radar over the weekend, about one hour into a flight to Beijing from Kuala Lumpur.
Six days after the mysterious disappearance prompted a massive international air and water search that so far hasn't produced any results, the investigation appears to be broadening in scope.
U.S. counterterrorism officials are pursuing the possibility that a pilot or someone else on board the plane may have diverted it toward an undisclosed location after intentionally turning off the jetliner's transponders to avoid radar detection, according to one person tracking the probe.
The investigation remains fluid, and it isn't clear whether investigators have evidence indicating possible terrorism or espionage. So far, U.S. national security officials have said that nothing specifically points toward terrorism, though they haven't ruled it out.
But the huge uncertainty about where the plane was headed, and why it continued flying so long without working transponders, has raised theories among investigators that the aircraft may have been commandeered for a reason that appears unclear to U.S. authorities. Some of those theories have been laid out to national security officials and senior personnel from various U.S. agencies, according to one person familiar with the matter.
At one briefing, according to this person, officials were told investigators are actively pursuing the notion that the plane was diverted "with the intention of using it later for another purpose."
As of Wednesday it remained unclear whether the plane reached an alternate destination or if it ultimately crashed, potentially hundreds of miles from where an international search effort has been focused.
In those scenarios, neither mechanical problems, pilot mistakes nor some other type of catastrophic incident caused the 250-ton plane to mysteriously vanish from radar.
The latest revelations come as local media reported that Malaysian police visited the home of at least one of the two pilots.
Boeing officials and a Malaysia Airlines official declined to comment.
The engines' onboard monitoring system is provided by their manufacturer, Rolls-Royce RR.LN -1.71% PLC, and it periodically sends bursts of data about engine health, operations and aircraft movements to facilities on the ground.
Rolls-Royce couldn't immediately be reached for comment.
As part of its maintenance agreements, Malaysia Airlines transmits its engine data live to Rolls-Royce for analysis. The system compiles data from inside the 777's two Trent 800 engines and transmits snapshots of performance, as well as the altitude and speed of the jet.
Those snippets are compiled and transmitted in 30-minute increments, said one person familiar with the system. According to Rolls-Royce's website, the data is processed automatically "so that subtle changes in condition from one flight to another can be detected."
The engine data is being analyzed to help determine the flight path of the plane after the transponders stopped working. The jet was originally headed for China, and its last verified position was half way across the Gulf of Thailand.
A total flight time of five hours after departing Kuala Lumpur means the Boeing 777 could have continued for an additional distance of about 2,200 nautical miles, reaching points as far as the Indian Ocean, the border of Pakistan or even the Arabian Sea, based on the jet's cruising speed.
ocean_hercules 发表于 2014-3-13 13:10
亲
这不是什么秘密！
厂家可以远程强制关闭发动机吗？挖土机已经有这个技术了，跑出去干私活会被雇主远程强制熄火。
亲
这不是什么秘密！
厂家可以远程强制关闭发动机吗？挖土机已经有这个技术了，跑出去干私活会被雇主远程强制熄火。
焚寂古剑 发表于 2014-3-13 13:10
能不能对引擎进行定位啊
应该是可以定位的。。。
能不能对引擎进行定位啊
应该是可以定位的。。。
能收到信号，不能通过信号 定位嘛？
che 发表于 2014-3-13 13:15
厂家可以远程强制关闭发动机吗？挖土机已经有这个技术了，跑出去干私活会被雇主远程强制熄火。
这属于商业机密吧。不过如果这样做的话，厂商要冒巨大风险：如果发动机因为此机制的缺陷而意外关闭，就麻烦了。
厂家可以远程强制关闭发动机吗？挖土机已经有这个技术了，跑出去干私活会被雇主远程强制熄火。
这属于商业机密吧。不过如果这样做的话，厂商要冒巨大风险：如果发动机因为此机制的缺陷而意外关闭，就麻烦了。
远走不高飞 发表于 2014-3-13 12:59
这个人引擎数据哪来的？？？？？？？？？？？？？？？？
引擎公司一般都有远程监控系统，其实好多比较贵的设备都有，就看监测什么了
这个人引擎数据哪来的？？？？？？？？？？？？？？？？
引擎公司一般都有远程监控系统，其实好多比较贵的设备都有，就看监测什么了