多年前俄罗斯科学院专家的磁力~重力效应实验靠谱吗?做 ...

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似乎很多人都说违反基本物理定律是伪科学,但俄罗斯科学院热能所的两位科学家发表的文章说明了他们实验的过程和结论,看文章写得有板有眼的,不知道这个论文是编造的还是真有其事,下面是论文中的一些图文:

Abstract
In the present paper the results of the experimental research of magnetic-gravity effects are presented. Anomalous
magnetic and thermal changes within a radius of 15 meters from the researched device were measured as well.

这是实验装置的剖面图:


这是实验结论:
Experimental results
The magnetic-gravity converter was built in a laboratory room on three concrete supports at a
ground level. The ceiling height the lab room was 3-meters, the common working area of the laboratory
was about 100 sq. meters. Besides the presence of the iron-concrete ceiling, in the immediate
proximity from the magnetic system there was a generator and electric motor, which contained some
tens of kilograms of iron and could potentially deform the field's pattern.
以上介绍了下实验装置的所在环境

The device was initially started by the electric motor that accelerated the rotation of the rotor. The
revolutions were smoothly increased up to the moment the ammeter included in a circuit of the electric
motor started to show zero or a negative value of consumed current. The negative value indicated a
presence of back current. This back current was detected at approximately 550 rpm. The displacement
meter, 14, starts to detect the change in weight of the whole installation at 200 rpm. Afterwards, the
electric motor is completely disconnected by the electromagnetic clutch and the ordinary electrodynamics
generator is connected to the switchable resistive load. The rotor of the converter continues to selfaccelerate
and approach the critical mode of 550 rpm where the weight of the device quickly changes.
以上大意是转速到550rpm时仪器出现明显的重力减少。下面是数据图示:



In addition to the dependence on the speed of rotation, the weight differential depends on the generated
power through the load and on the applied polarizing voltage as well. As seen in Fig.4, at the
maximum output power equal to 6-7 kW, the change of weight ΔG of the whole platform (total weight
is about 350 kg), reaches 35 % of the weight in an initial condition Gi. Applying a load of more than 7
kW results in a gradual decrease in rotation speed and an exit from the mode of self-generation, with
the rotor coming to a complete stop subsequently.
以上大意是重量变化与转速导致的负载电流及其施加的极化电压有关,比如最大输出是6、7KW时,整个平台的重力变化是减轻了35%

The net weight Gn of the platform can be controlled by applying high voltage to polarization ring
electrodes located at a distance of 10 mm from external surfaces of the rollers. Under the high 20 kV
voltage (electrodes having negative polarity) the increase of tapped power of the basic generator to
more than 6 kW does not influence ΔG if the rotation speed is kept above 400 rpm. "Tightening" of this
effect is observed as well as the effect of hysteresis on ΔG (a kind of "residual induction"). The experimental
diagrams given on Fig.4 illustrate the +G and –G modes of the converter operations vs. rotor
rpm.
以上大意是说明重量变化的一些规律,比如保持400rpm转速的情况下,加大的电压和输出功率对重力变化无影响,表现出了一定的重力变化的滞后效应

下面是转速、输出功率、重力变化关系的数据图示:


The effect of a local change of the platform weight is reversible, relative to the direction of rotor
turning, and has the same hysteresis. A clockwise rotation causes the critical mode to occur in the area
of 550 rpm and the propulsion force against the direction of gravitation vector is created. Correspondingly,
a counter-clockwise rotation causes the critical mode to occur the in area of 600 rpm and a force
in the direction of gravitation vector is created. The difference in approach to a critical mode of 50 - 60
rpm was observed. It is necessary to mention that the most interesting region are situated above the
critical area of 550 rpm, but due to of a number of circumstances the implementation of such research
was not possible. It is necessary to note, that probably there are also other resonant modes appropriate
to higher rpm of a rotor and to the significant levels of useful loading and weight changing. Proceeding
from the theoretical assumptions, the dependence of tapped mechanical energy from the parameters of
magnetic system of the converter and rpm of a rotor has a nonlinear character and the received effects
are not optimum. From this point of view, the revealing of the maximal output power, of the maximal
change of weight and resource of the converter represents the large practical and scientific interest. In
tested sample of the converter the using of higher rpm was inadmissible because of unsufficient mechanical
durability of the magnetic system, which was built from separate pieces.
以上大意是说明重量变化的效应是可逆的,取决于转子的旋转方向,顺时针550rpm转速是产生反重力的临界转速,逆时针600rpm时出现增重现象,但都是在550rpm以上时观察到的。。。基于试验环境,可能挂一漏万,没准还有其它更高效的模式以及更可用的装置设计。。。

最后有个探讨:
Discussion
All the results we obtained are extremely unusual and require some theoretical explanation. Unfortunately,
the interpretation of results within the framework of the conventional physical theory cannot
explain all the observed phenomena besides the change of weight. It is possible to interpret the change
of weight either as a local change of gravitational force or as an antigravity force repelling its own
field. Direct experiment, confirming the presence of a draft force was not performed, but in any case
both interpretations of the weight change do not correspond to the modern physics paradigm. A reconsideration
of the standard theory of gravitation is possible if we take into consideration space-time curvature.
For example, the Kerr metric usually represents the field exterior to an axially symmetric rotating
body and distinguishes between positive and negative spin directions as well as forward and backward
time directions [8]. An examination of the physical vacuum as a source of these phenomena may
also lend itself to better interpretation since the Maxwell stress-energy tensor in the vicinity of the converter
undergoes a complex evolution.
From the modern physics position, electrification and luminescence of the converter's magnetic system
in the near zone is not completely clear. The phenomenon of the magnetic and thermal "walls" may
be connected with Alphen's magnetic-sound waves raised in near zone in magnetized plasma induced
by a variable magnetic field of a rotating rotor [9]. The energy exchange between ambient air molecules
and the converter may be occurring. At the present time we can not give an exact description of
the interactions mechanism and transformation of energy, but without a relativistic we are completely
unable to give a physically substantial theory of these phenomena.
In conclusion, we emphasize that issues of the biological influence effects and especially of the
variations of real time stream effects, which must be taking place in an operative zone of the converter,
were not considered at all. These issues are extremely important and absolutely unexplored; though
there are some mentions of J.R.R.Searl about healing action of the SEG's radiation. Our own experience
allows us to make only cautious assumption that the short-term stay (dozen minutes) in a working
zone of the converter with the fixed output power of 6 kW remains without observed consequences for
those exposed. The present paper is only a beginning.


这篇文章说的实验你认为是真的还是假的呢?如果是真的,我觉得这个观察效应很NB。不知道能否重现呀~,但更多的人觉得这是伪科学,如果是假的,我觉得这帮人也真够无聊的,和中国跳大神的差不多,只不过披了件科学的外衣。


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似乎很多人都说违反基本物理定律是伪科学,但俄罗斯科学院热能所的两位科学家发表的文章说明了他们实验的过程和结论,看文章写得有板有眼的,不知道这个论文是编造的还是真有其事,下面是论文中的一些图文:

Abstract
In the present paper the results of the experimental research of magnetic-gravity effects are presented. Anomalous
magnetic and thermal changes within a radius of 15 meters from the researched device were measured as well.

这是实验装置的剖面图:

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这是实验结论:
Experimental results
The magnetic-gravity converter was built in a laboratory room on three concrete supports at a
ground level. The ceiling height the lab room was 3-meters, the common working area of the laboratory
was about 100 sq. meters. Besides the presence of the iron-concrete ceiling, in the immediate
proximity from the magnetic system there was a generator and electric motor, which contained some
tens of kilograms of iron and could potentially deform the field's pattern.
以上介绍了下实验装置的所在环境

The device was initially started by the electric motor that accelerated the rotation of the rotor. The
revolutions were smoothly increased up to the moment the ammeter included in a circuit of the electric
motor started to show zero or a negative value of consumed current. The negative value indicated a
presence of back current. This back current was detected at approximately 550 rpm. The displacement
meter, 14, starts to detect the change in weight of the whole installation at 200 rpm. Afterwards, the
electric motor is completely disconnected by the electromagnetic clutch and the ordinary electrodynamics
generator is connected to the switchable resistive load. The rotor of the converter continues to selfaccelerate
and approach the critical mode of 550 rpm where the weight of the device quickly changes.
以上大意是转速到550rpm时仪器出现明显的重力减少。下面是数据图示:

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In addition to the dependence on the speed of rotation, the weight differential depends on the generated
power through the load and on the applied polarizing voltage as well. As seen in Fig.4, at the
maximum output power equal to 6-7 kW, the change of weight ΔG of the whole platform (total weight
is about 350 kg), reaches 35 % of the weight in an initial condition Gi. Applying a load of more than 7
kW results in a gradual decrease in rotation speed and an exit from the mode of self-generation, with
the rotor coming to a complete stop subsequently.
以上大意是重量变化与转速导致的负载电流及其施加的极化电压有关,比如最大输出是6、7KW时,整个平台的重力变化是减轻了35%

The net weight Gn of the platform can be controlled by applying high voltage to polarization ring
electrodes located at a distance of 10 mm from external surfaces of the rollers. Under the high 20 kV
voltage (electrodes having negative polarity) the increase of tapped power of the basic generator to
more than 6 kW does not influence ΔG if the rotation speed is kept above 400 rpm. "Tightening" of this
effect is observed as well as the effect of hysteresis on ΔG (a kind of "residual induction"). The experimental
diagrams given on Fig.4 illustrate the +G and –G modes of the converter operations vs. rotor
rpm.
以上大意是说明重量变化的一些规律,比如保持400rpm转速的情况下,加大的电压和输出功率对重力变化无影响,表现出了一定的重力变化的滞后效应

下面是转速、输出功率、重力变化关系的数据图示:

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The effect of a local change of the platform weight is reversible, relative to the direction of rotor
turning, and has the same hysteresis. A clockwise rotation causes the critical mode to occur in the area
of 550 rpm and the propulsion force against the direction of gravitation vector is created. Correspondingly,
a counter-clockwise rotation causes the critical mode to occur the in area of 600 rpm and a force
in the direction of gravitation vector is created. The difference in approach to a critical mode of 50 - 60
rpm was observed. It is necessary to mention that the most interesting region are situated above the
critical area of 550 rpm, but due to of a number of circumstances the implementation of such research
was not possible. It is necessary to note, that probably there are also other resonant modes appropriate
to higher rpm of a rotor and to the significant levels of useful loading and weight changing. Proceeding
from the theoretical assumptions, the dependence of tapped mechanical energy from the parameters of
magnetic system of the converter and rpm of a rotor has a nonlinear character and the received effects
are not optimum. From this point of view, the revealing of the maximal output power, of the maximal
change of weight and resource of the converter represents the large practical and scientific interest. In
tested sample of the converter the using of higher rpm was inadmissible because of unsufficient mechanical
durability of the magnetic system, which was built from separate pieces.
以上大意是说明重量变化的效应是可逆的,取决于转子的旋转方向,顺时针550rpm转速是产生反重力的临界转速,逆时针600rpm时出现增重现象,但都是在550rpm以上时观察到的。。。基于试验环境,可能挂一漏万,没准还有其它更高效的模式以及更可用的装置设计。。。

最后有个探讨:
Discussion
All the results we obtained are extremely unusual and require some theoretical explanation. Unfortunately,
the interpretation of results within the framework of the conventional physical theory cannot
explain all the observed phenomena besides the change of weight. It is possible to interpret the change
of weight either as a local change of gravitational force or as an antigravity force repelling its own
field. Direct experiment, confirming the presence of a draft force was not performed, but in any case
both interpretations of the weight change do not correspond to the modern physics paradigm. A reconsideration
of the standard theory of gravitation is possible if we take into consideration space-time curvature.
For example, the Kerr metric usually represents the field exterior to an axially symmetric rotating
body and distinguishes between positive and negative spin directions as well as forward and backward
time directions [8]. An examination of the physical vacuum as a source of these phenomena may
also lend itself to better interpretation since the Maxwell stress-energy tensor in the vicinity of the converter
undergoes a complex evolution.
From the modern physics position, electrification and luminescence of the converter's magnetic system
in the near zone is not completely clear. The phenomenon of the magnetic and thermal "walls" may
be connected with Alphen's magnetic-sound waves raised in near zone in magnetized plasma induced
by a variable magnetic field of a rotating rotor [9]. The energy exchange between ambient air molecules
and the converter may be occurring. At the present time we can not give an exact description of
the interactions mechanism and transformation of energy, but without a relativistic we are completely
unable to give a physically substantial theory of these phenomena.
In conclusion, we emphasize that issues of the biological influence effects and especially of the
variations of real time stream effects, which must be taking place in an operative zone of the converter,
were not considered at all. These issues are extremely important and absolutely unexplored; though
there are some mentions of J.R.R.Searl about healing action of the SEG's radiation. Our own experience
allows us to make only cautious assumption that the short-term stay (dozen minutes) in a working
zone of the converter with the fixed output power of 6 kW remains without observed consequences for
those exposed. The present paper is only a beginning.


这篇文章说的实验你认为是真的还是假的呢?如果是真的,我觉得这个观察效应很NB。不知道能否重现呀~,但更多的人觉得这是伪科学,如果是假的,我觉得这帮人也真够无聊的,和中国跳大神的差不多,只不过披了件科学的外衣。
以前在央视97还是9几环球见过美帝的磁力零重力装置浮起过青蛙
楼主是希望标题是红色的吗?目前,貌似只有版主有染色标题的权利吧。
楼主请证明作者是科学家,并且这是他们写的
在这之前,还要先把原文翻译,附上可靠链接

ps
根据目前地球上的现有的科学进展,这显然是胡扯
强相互作用和弱相互作用的理论统一都还没有完成,更不要谈转换
真做出来他们立马得诺贝尔奖,不用等多年,立马

又见此标题...........................
我比较在乎的是自带代码标红~
超大の卵 发表于 2013-10-17 23:04
以前在央视97还是9几环球见过美帝的磁力零重力装置浮起过青蛙
你说的这个应该是磁化青蛙体内的水导致的。
千年冰剑 发表于 2013-10-17 23:06
楼主是希望标题是红色的吗?目前,貌似只有版主有染色标题的权利吧。
貌似以前看到过有非版主的文章标题是红的,以为那样就可以

zczfr 发表于 2013-10-18 00:13
楼主请证明作者是科学家,并且这是他们写的
在这之前,还要先把原文翻译,附上可靠链接


这是链接(抱歉找到的是百度文库,而不是更原始的出处):
http://wenku.baidu.com/view/efef73d850e2524de5187ef1.html
至于是不是科学家,我也不知道,发这里也是想看看有没有对论文编写比较懂行的人,看看行文论述风格是否正规,以及图表反应的东西是否是严谨的科学实验室数据分析。
zczfr 发表于 2013-10-18 00:13
楼主请证明作者是科学家,并且这是他们写的
在这之前,还要先把原文翻译,附上可靠链接


这是链接(抱歉找到的是百度文库,而不是更原始的出处):
http://wenku.baidu.com/view/efef73d850e2524de5187ef1.html
至于是不是科学家,我也不知道,发这里也是想看看有没有对论文编写比较懂行的人,看看行文论述风格是否正规,以及图表反应的东西是否是严谨的科学实验室数据分析。
风中闲云 发表于 2013-10-18 00:46
又见此标题...........................
发帖前我试图搜超大,但没找到搜索入口。以前有人发过吗?
kimi颜泽 发表于 2013-10-18 01:50
我比较在乎的是自带代码标红~
那得改后台数据库才行,呵呵
一目 发表于 2013-10-18 07:51
这是链接(抱歉找到的是百度文库,而不是更原始的出处):
http://wenku.baidu.com/view/efef73d850e2 ...
你要是论文看得多就知道,SCI和EI的文章尽管满篇看起来都是类似这样的,但是就那两家也有不靠谱的很多,更别说别的地方发出来的
一百遍啊一百遍1 发表于 2013-10-18 10:41
你要是论文看得多就知道,SCI和EI的文章尽管满篇看起来都是类似这样的,但是就那两家也有不靠谱的很多, ...
为啥有这么多不靠谱的,目的是什么呀?骗科研经费吗?
不是说国内有个叫高歌的人在研究什么零点能吗?这个人据说是个靠谱的人,但零点能靠谱吗?
一目 发表于 2013-10-18 10:56
为啥有这么多不靠谱的,目的是什么呀?骗科研经费吗?
1、能骗科研经费的人,肯定不是靠骗科研经费起家的
2、不靠谱不是说他的出发点,是说他的过程(EI)或者结论(SCI)
3、不靠谱的东西多是正常的,科学的边界始终存在,更不要说工程学的能力范围了,你越靠近边界,你前面的坑就越多啊,要么你自己掉坑里,要么也可能挖个坑别人掉坑里,这种事情无所谓有意还是无意的,客观事实而已
一百遍啊一百遍1 发表于 2013-10-18 11:00
1、能骗科研经费的人,肯定不是靠骗科研经费起家的
2、不靠谱不是说他的出发点,是说他的过程(EI)或者 ...
这篇论文的数据如果不是有意造假,已经可以算很明显的实验现象了。
龙骑战机里的反引力装置
一百遍啊一百遍1 发表于 2013-10-18 11:00
1、能骗科研经费的人,肯定不是靠骗科研经费起家的
2、不靠谱不是说他的出发点,是说他的过程(EI)或者 ...
能掉靠近边界的坑里也不错啊,哈哈

一目 发表于 2013-10-18 06:40
貌似以前看到过有非版主的文章标题是红的,以为那样就可以


那叫“限时置亮”,是版主的权力
一目 发表于 2013-10-18 06:40
貌似以前看到过有非版主的文章标题是红的,以为那样就可以


那叫“限时置亮”,是版主的权力
千年冰剑 发表于 2013-10-18 11:51
那叫“限时置亮”,是版主的权力
嗯嗯,都不是编写贴子时能决定的


挺简单的嘛,为啥没有人能造出来呢?
为啥这两个俄罗斯“科学家”没能造出实物在全世界面前演示呢?

挺简单的嘛,为啥没有人能造出来呢?
为啥这两个俄罗斯“科学家”没能造出实物在全世界面前演示呢?
不是搞永动机的人是傻子,就是信永动机的人是傻子

既然永动机肯定存在,要是我信这玩意的话,我肯定不会去大肆宣传,我先自己做两台永动机,一台用来解决我家一辈子的电费,一台我把车的汽油机换下解决我一辈子油费(要审车的时候再找朋友帮我把原来的发动机装回去,再去车管所找熟人帮帮忙)