美国考虑发行“1兆”面值硬币以抵消巨大债务

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没错,你没看错。由于美联储在法律范围是被允许发行任何面值的美元,华盛顿最近‘认真研究”利用这一法律漏洞去抵消美国庞大的国债。现有美国名义国债高达16兆多,而如果这一方案可行,那么仅需要16枚“1兆美币’就能抹去美联储帐面的庞大债务。可以预见的是,首当其冲的将是持有美债的外国持有者和国家。由美国专家指出,任何持有美债的人可以100%放弃的被偿还的幻想。因为美国政府完全可以随时发行新货币以取代即将崩溃的美元,除非世界各国完全孤立美国,国际社会将完全束手无策被狠狠地敲了一会。

Speaking to the BBC's Today programme, Mr Roche, founder of Orcam Financial Group and blogger at Pragmatic Capitalism, said the idea was being taken "somewhat seriously" in Washington.

"I know it’s been spoken about at the White House and a number of prominent people, including congressman, are talking about it," he said.

In theory the US Treasury would mint the coin and deposit it into its own account at the Federal Reserve, which would allow the government to write down or cancel $1 trillion of its $16.4 trillion debt pile.

The Treasury began shuffling funds in order to pay government bills after the country hit its $16 trillion debt limit on December 31. However, the Treasury's accounting maneouvres will last only until around the end of February as the latest fiscal cliff deal gives US politicians two months to raise the debt limit before the country defaults.

The idea, which was raised last year, has been floated by several financial analysts in the States over recent days as Congress and the government approach the key fiscal vote.



Mr Roche said the idea was an "accounting gimmick", but noted it was just "one really silly idea [being used] to fight another silly idea".

"The idea of the US willingly defaulting on debt is beyond crazy," he said.

"We started kicking the idea around a year ago and it was really a joke and the fact it’s become something sort of serious, well it’s a sad state of affairs that it’s become so dysfunctional in Congress that this is something we’re having to resort to."

Writing in his New York Times blog, economist Paul Krugman, said that while he did not expect the Treasury to go ahead with this "gimmick", there could be a case for it.

"This is all a gimmick — but since the debt ceiling itself is crazy, allowing Congress to tell the president to spend money then tell him that he can’t raise the money he’s supposed to spend, there’s a pretty good case for using whatever gimmicks come to hand," he said.

Mr Roche also did not expect the Treasury to go ahead and mint a $1trillion coin, but said President Obama could use it as threat.

"I don’t think it’s something that will end up being used but I think that if it comes down to it we could potentially see the President use this as something where he says, 'look if you’re going to threaten to default on debt then I’m going to threaten to use the coin loophole'."

There are limits on how much paper money the US can circulate and rules that govern coinage on gold, silver, and copper.

But, the Treasury has broad discretion on coins made from platinum, and in theory, it is allowed to mint a platinum coin and assign any value to it.

However, it is worth noting that this was intended to issue commemorative coins and not as a fiscal measure, Mr Krugman said.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finan ... o-pay-off-debt.html没错,你没看错。由于美联储在法律范围是被允许发行任何面值的美元,华盛顿最近‘认真研究”利用这一法律漏洞去抵消美国庞大的国债。现有美国名义国债高达16兆多,而如果这一方案可行,那么仅需要16枚“1兆美币’就能抹去美联储帐面的庞大债务。可以预见的是,首当其冲的将是持有美债的外国持有者和国家。由美国专家指出,任何持有美债的人可以100%放弃的被偿还的幻想。因为美国政府完全可以随时发行新货币以取代即将崩溃的美元,除非世界各国完全孤立美国,国际社会将完全束手无策被狠狠地敲了一会。

Speaking to the BBC's Today programme, Mr Roche, founder of Orcam Financial Group and blogger at Pragmatic Capitalism, said the idea was being taken "somewhat seriously" in Washington.

"I know it’s been spoken about at the White House and a number of prominent people, including congressman, are talking about it," he said.

In theory the US Treasury would mint the coin and deposit it into its own account at the Federal Reserve, which would allow the government to write down or cancel $1 trillion of its $16.4 trillion debt pile.

The Treasury began shuffling funds in order to pay government bills after the country hit its $16 trillion debt limit on December 31. However, the Treasury's accounting maneouvres will last only until around the end of February as the latest fiscal cliff deal gives US politicians two months to raise the debt limit before the country defaults.

The idea, which was raised last year, has been floated by several financial analysts in the States over recent days as Congress and the government approach the key fiscal vote.



Mr Roche said the idea was an "accounting gimmick", but noted it was just "one really silly idea [being used] to fight another silly idea".

"The idea of the US willingly defaulting on debt is beyond crazy," he said.

"We started kicking the idea around a year ago and it was really a joke and the fact it’s become something sort of serious, well it’s a sad state of affairs that it’s become so dysfunctional in Congress that this is something we’re having to resort to."

Writing in his New York Times blog, economist Paul Krugman, said that while he did not expect the Treasury to go ahead with this "gimmick", there could be a case for it.

"This is all a gimmick — but since the debt ceiling itself is crazy, allowing Congress to tell the president to spend money then tell him that he can’t raise the money he’s supposed to spend, there’s a pretty good case for using whatever gimmicks come to hand," he said.

Mr Roche also did not expect the Treasury to go ahead and mint a $1trillion coin, but said President Obama could use it as threat.

"I don’t think it’s something that will end up being used but I think that if it comes down to it we could potentially see the President use this as something where he says, 'look if you’re going to threaten to default on debt then I’m going to threaten to use the coin loophole'."

There are limits on how much paper money the US can circulate and rules that govern coinage on gold, silver, and copper.

But, the Treasury has broad discretion on coins made from platinum, and in theory, it is allowed to mint a platinum coin and assign any value to it.

However, it is worth noting that this was intended to issue commemorative coins and not as a fiscal measure, Mr Krugman said.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finan ... o-pay-off-debt.html
即使法律上有这个漏洞,MD也不太敢这么玩,如果玩这手,那就等着砸锅吧!
macaoeric 发表于 2013-1-8 05:01
即使法律上有这个漏洞,MD也不太敢这么玩,如果玩这手,那就等着砸锅吧!
真玩了,也没问题,当初美元取消金本位
moskov2012 发表于 2013-1-8 05:08
真玩了,也没问题,当初美元取消金本位
美元取消金本位之后用石油来挂钩,你重新发布一套货币有什么来作价值担保?凭什么其他国家都承认和流通这新的货币?
那么,美国信用岂非彻底沦丧。。。
moskov2012 发表于 2013-1-8 05:08
真玩了,也没问题,当初美元取消金本位
想赖账应该有很多办法,可操作性还是很强的。MD不会愚蠢到用这么低级的手段。。。。这太儿科了。。。。
这不就是铸币权吗?
美国人逼急了还真敢这么干,只不过代价是以全世界为敌,美国二战以后建立起来的美元体系瞬间崩塌
石油美元会迅速变成石油欧元和石油人民币,全球金融大动荡不可避免,很可能接下来就是三战。

那就试试看呗。
不就是印钞票吗?只要它肯做金圆券第二就行。
对于中国,豁出去几万亿的损失,只要能把美国拉下宝座,也不亏。


如果真的,那真的不要脸的。。。

如果真的,那真的不要脸的。。。
这么玩也好,玩过看谁还再会买
大小企鹅 发表于 2013-1-8 05:34
这不就是铸币权吗?
美国人逼急了还真敢这么干,只不过代价是以全世界为敌,美国二战以后建立起来的美元体 ...
一个海权国家如果用掠夺手段维持经济的化。说明海权的根基已经烂了。
这是高级黑吗。。。
不靠谱,当年德国这么玩最后玩掉了债务也玩脱了自己
这硬币的图案估计很容易设计,角落里打一个1其他面积全被0覆盖.
为什么称万亿为兆?
不是亿亿为兆的么
真要这么搞,那就是要玩第三次全球武林争霸战了,而且这次美国会成为世界公敌。


这样做美元瞬间成为废纸,至少信用上是如此,于是市场狂抛美元和美债,不知道有多少跌停

美元放弃金本位,还有美国财政做信用的,自己这么印法,美国财政还有啥信用。

这样做美元瞬间成为废纸,至少信用上是如此,于是市场狂抛美元和美债,不知道有多少跌停

美元放弃金本位,还有美国财政做信用的,自己这么印法,美国财政还有啥信用。
不如发一枚16兆的,一下子全洗白,还省下了铸另外15枚的白金。
为什么称万亿为兆?
不是亿亿为兆的么
欧美的兆是百万。
中国传统的兆是万亿。

目前我们使用广泛的是欧美的兆(M)。
......
什么材料的硬币?
含金量不够拒收就是了
不如发一枚16兆的,一下子全洗白,还省下了铸另外15枚的白金。
发一枚1600兆的买下地球就更好了哈哈
怎么说呢,
也许可以让美国民众找零-_-
当初几十万本圣经买了美洲,完全可以继续拿来用嘛
WALXY121 发表于 2013-1-8 06:29
一个海权国家如果用掠夺手段维持经济的化。说明海权的根基已经烂了。
请参考当年大英帝国对中国的两次鸦片战争。
饱食而乱喷 发表于 2013-1-8 06:40
为什么称万亿为兆?
不是亿亿为兆的么
亿亿为京。
不管面值多大,16兆就是16兆,还是相当于多印了这么多钱。况且面值太大,也花不出去,人家一样可以不要,或者要求换别的。
至于发行新币赖掉旧币,这是直接打算赖掉全世界的美元吧,美国也玩不起
硬币不需要足值吗?
小虎鲸 发表于 2013-1-8 07:26
请参考当年大英帝国对中国的两次鸦片战争。
大英帝国从没有掠夺过列强。相反,总是作为列强的总代言人出现。
津巴布韦币最大面值是多少来着
我在考虑自己在家用打印机印几张,看看中行给换不
收到这样的硬币直接存美国的银行行不?
这不只是建议,从趋势看,这是早晚要采用的赖账方式。

赖不赖其实也无所谓,如果美国人都想中国这样过日子,中国的日子不会比现在更难过。
这个花不掉的吧,再说美的发美元必须要拿国债抵,那岂不是国债翻翻?
美国国债持有的大头是美国人啊
这么玩,自己玩死自己
智商约等于拿外汇储备发低保
我们拿一切糕币,这一兆的美元就吓尿了
moskov2012 发表于 2013-1-8 05:08
真玩了,也没问题,当初美元取消金本位
问题肯定是有的.
美国国债70%左右是国内购买的。。。
那以美元为基础的国际政治、经济体系瞬间瓦解,联合国、国际货币基金重组,中欧牵头设立新的货币体系,同时向美国政府和美联储逼债,看谁玩得大。
feb2xxq 发表于 2013-1-8 06:54
不如发一枚16兆的,一下子全洗白,还省下了铸另外15枚的白金。
刻套模子印一枚不划算。换成我就铸造1亿美元的一盎司金币,100万美元的一盎司银币。然后还能当纪念品卖掉点。。。。。。。
好啊,好啊。快点发行啊,不发是小狗。