NASA全力支持下的SpaceX公司和轨道科学公司

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COTS项目评审进入最后阶段
日期:2008/06/12

    【据美国每日宇航与防务报告网站2008年6月6日报道】  NASA的商业轨道运输系统( COTS) 项目成员运送部分可行性评审进入了最终阶段。
    NASA目前正在COTS项目下投资SpaceX公司和轨道科学公司为国际空间站研发货运能力,但目前在审批成员运送部分遭遇延误。SpaceX公司积极致力于“龙”航天器(COTS D)概念研究,而轨道科学公司仅专注于货运能力。
    SpaceX公司CEO穆斯科对“龙”航天器在2011年前具备人员运送能力表示出信心。一些议员正积极推进加快“龙”航天器的研发,以便缩短航天飞机退役后与“猎户座”投入使用前载人航天能力的空白期。
    SpaceX公司首次货运能力COTS A演示飞行预计2010年3月进行。SpaceX公司和轨道公司在 COTS C阶段都取得了良好进展,在COTS C阶段,航天器将把加压货物运空间站并返回。但是COTS D阶段必须要研发和验证所有生命保障系统、交会与对接系统、发射异常中断系统。(钱钱  侯丹)

http://www.spacechina.com/n25/n144/n208/n232/c97413/content.html

NASA和轨道科学公司联合演示国际空间站货物传输系统



  [据美国军事航空电子网站2008年2月20日报道]
  日前,美国轨道科学公司被美国国家航空航天管理局(NASA)选中,联合演示向国际空间站(ISS)传输货物的新型空间运输系统。

  该商用轨道运输服务(COTS)联合项目持续三年,项目资金总计3.2亿美元,NASA将投入1.7亿美元,轨道科学公司将投入1.5亿美元(其中包括“金牛座Ⅱ”火箭发射开发计划投资)。

  COTS计划的第一阶段主要包括商用货物传输系统的开发和飞行演示,在2010年航天飞机退役后,该系统将用于向地球低轨传输货物,为ISS操作提供支撑。该系统将包括一个称为“天鹅座”的新型高级机动太空船,还包括几个用于加压和非加压货物的可互换模块,该系统将由轨道科学公司的新型“金牛座Ⅱ”火箭发射升空。

  轨道科学公司计划于2010年第四季度开始进行COTS演示任务。

  搭乘“金牛座Ⅱ”火箭发射的“天鹅座”太空船将能够向ISS传输重达2300kg的货物,并能够从ISS上携带1200kg的货物返回地球。

  COTS计划将向NASA提供一种美国制造的自动化操作货物传输服务,用于ISS支撑,弥补俄罗斯、欧洲以及日本货物运输装置的不足。此外,COTS计划将进一步推动“金牛座Ⅱ”的启用,这是一种新型中级发射装置,可由NASA和其他政府机构以及私营卫星运营商使用,执行各种科学、国防以及商用空间任务。

  轨道科学公司计划在位于弗吉尼亚州Dulles和马里兰州Greenbelt的工厂完成“天鹅座”太空船和货物模块的开发、制造和集成。该公司与“金牛座Ⅱ”火箭相关的设计、制造与测试工作将在Dulles和亚利桑那州Chandler完成。
http://www.etiri.com.cn/news/show.php?id=49833455640

Michael Braukus/J.D. Harrington
Headquarters, Washington                                         
202-358-1979/5241
michael.j.braukus@nasa.gov / j.d.harrington@nasa.gov
  
Josh Byerly
Johnson Space Center, Houston
281-483-5111
josh.byerly@nasa.gov
Dec. 9, 2011 RELEASE : 11-413  NASA Announces Launch Date and Milestones for Spacex Flight   WASHINGTON -- NASA has announced the launch target for Space Exploration Technologies' (SpaceX) second Commercial Orbital Transportation Services (COTS) demonstration flight will be Feb. 7, 2012, pending completion of final safety reviews, testing and verification. NASA also has agreed to allow SpaceX to send its Dragon spacecraft to rendezvous with the International Space Station (ISS) in a single flight.

"SpaceX has made incredible progress over the last several months preparing Dragon for its mission to the space station," said William Gerstenmaier, NASA's associate administrator for the Human Exploration and Operations Mission Directorate. "We look forward to a successful mission, which will open up a new era in commercial cargo delivery for this international orbiting laboratory."

Gerstenmaier said, "There is still a significant amount of critical work to be completed before launch, but the teams have a sound plan to complete it and are prepared for unexpected challenges. As with all launches, we will adjust the launch date as needed to gain sufficient understanding of test and analysis results to ensure safety and mission success."

During the flight, Dragon will conduct a series of check-out procedures that will test and prove its systems in advance of the rendezvous with the station. The primary objectives for the flight include a fly-by of the space station at a distance of approximately two miles to validate the operation of sensors and flight systems necessary for a safe rendezvous and approach. The spacecraft also will demonstrate the capability to abort the rendezvous, if required.

Dragon will perform the final approach to the ISS while the station crew grapples the vehicle with the station's robotic arm. The capsule will be berthed to the Earth-facing side of the Harmony node. At the end of the mission, the crew will reverse the process, detaching Dragon from the station for its return to Earth and splashdown in the Pacific off the coast of California. If the rendezvous and attachment to the station are not successful, SpaceX will complete a third demonstration flight in order to achieve these objectives as originally planned.

"SpaceX is on the forefront of demonstrating how a partnership between the government and private industry can lead to new capabilities and provide a large return on investment," said Alan Lindenmoyer, program manager for COTS at NASA's Johnson Space Center in Houston.

"SpaceX is excited to be the first commercial company in history to berth with the International Space Station. This mission will mark a historic milestone in the future of spaceflight," said SpaceX President Gwynne Shotwell. "We appreciate NASA's continued support and their partnership in this process."

Begun in 2006, NASA's COTS program is investing financial and technical resources to stimulate efforts within the private sector to develop and demonstrate safe, reliable and cost-effective space transportation capabilities. In a multiphase strategy, the program is spurring the innovation and development of new spacecraft and launch vehicles from commercial industry, creating a new system of delivering cargo to low-Earth orbit and the International Space Station.

Through Space Act Agreements, SpaceX will receive up to $396 million and Orbital Sciences Corporation, NASA's other COTS partner, will receive up to $288 million for the successful completion of all milestones in the agreements. To date, SpaceX has received $376 million for completing 36 out of 40 milestones and Orbital has received $261.5 million for completing 23 out of 29 milestones.
For more information on COTS, visit:


http://www.nasa.gov/cots


For more information on the International Space Station, visit:


http://www.nasa.gov/station


For more information on SpaceX or the Dragon spacecraft, visit:


http://www.spacex.com

http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/ ... ceX_ISS_Flight.html



COTS项目评审进入最后阶段
日期:2008/06/12

    【据美国每日宇航与防务报告网站2008年6月6日报道】  NASA的商业轨道运输系统( COTS) 项目成员运送部分可行性评审进入了最终阶段。
    NASA目前正在COTS项目下投资SpaceX公司和轨道科学公司为国际空间站研发货运能力,但目前在审批成员运送部分遭遇延误。SpaceX公司积极致力于“龙”航天器(COTS D)概念研究,而轨道科学公司仅专注于货运能力。
    SpaceX公司CEO穆斯科对“龙”航天器在2011年前具备人员运送能力表示出信心。一些议员正积极推进加快“龙”航天器的研发,以便缩短航天飞机退役后与“猎户座”投入使用前载人航天能力的空白期。
    SpaceX公司首次货运能力COTS A演示飞行预计2010年3月进行。SpaceX公司和轨道公司在 COTS C阶段都取得了良好进展,在COTS C阶段,航天器将把加压货物运空间站并返回。但是COTS D阶段必须要研发和验证所有生命保障系统、交会与对接系统、发射异常中断系统。(钱钱  侯丹)

http://www.spacechina.com/n25/n144/n208/n232/c97413/content.html

NASA和轨道科学公司联合演示国际空间站货物传输系统



  [据美国军事航空电子网站2008年2月20日报道]
  日前,美国轨道科学公司被美国国家航空航天管理局(NASA)选中,联合演示向国际空间站(ISS)传输货物的新型空间运输系统。

  该商用轨道运输服务(COTS)联合项目持续三年,项目资金总计3.2亿美元,NASA将投入1.7亿美元,轨道科学公司将投入1.5亿美元(其中包括“金牛座Ⅱ”火箭发射开发计划投资)。

  COTS计划的第一阶段主要包括商用货物传输系统的开发和飞行演示,在2010年航天飞机退役后,该系统将用于向地球低轨传输货物,为ISS操作提供支撑。该系统将包括一个称为“天鹅座”的新型高级机动太空船,还包括几个用于加压和非加压货物的可互换模块,该系统将由轨道科学公司的新型“金牛座Ⅱ”火箭发射升空。

  轨道科学公司计划于2010年第四季度开始进行COTS演示任务。

  搭乘“金牛座Ⅱ”火箭发射的“天鹅座”太空船将能够向ISS传输重达2300kg的货物,并能够从ISS上携带1200kg的货物返回地球。

  COTS计划将向NASA提供一种美国制造的自动化操作货物传输服务,用于ISS支撑,弥补俄罗斯、欧洲以及日本货物运输装置的不足。此外,COTS计划将进一步推动“金牛座Ⅱ”的启用,这是一种新型中级发射装置,可由NASA和其他政府机构以及私营卫星运营商使用,执行各种科学、国防以及商用空间任务。

  轨道科学公司计划在位于弗吉尼亚州Dulles和马里兰州Greenbelt的工厂完成“天鹅座”太空船和货物模块的开发、制造和集成。该公司与“金牛座Ⅱ”火箭相关的设计、制造与测试工作将在Dulles和亚利桑那州Chandler完成。
http://www.etiri.com.cn/news/show.php?id=49833455640

Michael Braukus/J.D. Harrington
Headquarters, Washington                                         
202-358-1979/5241
michael.j.braukus@nasa.gov / j.d.harrington@nasa.gov
  
Josh Byerly
Johnson Space Center, Houston
281-483-5111
josh.byerly@nasa.gov
Dec. 9, 2011 RELEASE : 11-413  NASA Announces Launch Date and Milestones for Spacex Flight   WASHINGTON -- NASA has announced the launch target for Space Exploration Technologies' (SpaceX) second Commercial Orbital Transportation Services (COTS) demonstration flight will be Feb. 7, 2012, pending completion of final safety reviews, testing and verification. NASA also has agreed to allow SpaceX to send its Dragon spacecraft to rendezvous with the International Space Station (ISS) in a single flight.

"SpaceX has made incredible progress over the last several months preparing Dragon for its mission to the space station," said William Gerstenmaier, NASA's associate administrator for the Human Exploration and Operations Mission Directorate. "We look forward to a successful mission, which will open up a new era in commercial cargo delivery for this international orbiting laboratory."

Gerstenmaier said, "There is still a significant amount of critical work to be completed before launch, but the teams have a sound plan to complete it and are prepared for unexpected challenges. As with all launches, we will adjust the launch date as needed to gain sufficient understanding of test and analysis results to ensure safety and mission success."

During the flight, Dragon will conduct a series of check-out procedures that will test and prove its systems in advance of the rendezvous with the station. The primary objectives for the flight include a fly-by of the space station at a distance of approximately two miles to validate the operation of sensors and flight systems necessary for a safe rendezvous and approach. The spacecraft also will demonstrate the capability to abort the rendezvous, if required.

Dragon will perform the final approach to the ISS while the station crew grapples the vehicle with the station's robotic arm. The capsule will be berthed to the Earth-facing side of the Harmony node. At the end of the mission, the crew will reverse the process, detaching Dragon from the station for its return to Earth and splashdown in the Pacific off the coast of California. If the rendezvous and attachment to the station are not successful, SpaceX will complete a third demonstration flight in order to achieve these objectives as originally planned.

"SpaceX is on the forefront of demonstrating how a partnership between the government and private industry can lead to new capabilities and provide a large return on investment," said Alan Lindenmoyer, program manager for COTS at NASA's Johnson Space Center in Houston.

"SpaceX is excited to be the first commercial company in history to berth with the International Space Station. This mission will mark a historic milestone in the future of spaceflight," said SpaceX President Gwynne Shotwell. "We appreciate NASA's continued support and their partnership in this process."

Begun in 2006, NASA's COTS program is investing financial and technical resources to stimulate efforts within the private sector to develop and demonstrate safe, reliable and cost-effective space transportation capabilities. In a multiphase strategy, the program is spurring the innovation and development of new spacecraft and launch vehicles from commercial industry, creating a new system of delivering cargo to low-Earth orbit and the International Space Station.

Through Space Act Agreements, SpaceX will receive up to $396 million and Orbital Sciences Corporation, NASA's other COTS partner, will receive up to $288 million for the successful completion of all milestones in the agreements. To date, SpaceX has received $376 million for completing 36 out of 40 milestones and Orbital has received $261.5 million for completing 23 out of 29 milestones.
For more information on COTS, visit:


http://www.nasa.gov/cots


For more information on the International Space Station, visit:


http://www.nasa.gov/station


For more information on SpaceX or the Dragon spacecraft, visit:


http://www.spacex.com

http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/ ... ceX_ISS_Flight.html





Kimberly Newton
Marshall Space Flight Center, Huntsville, Ala.
256-544-0034
Kimberly.D.Newton@nasa.gov

05.23.12 RELEASE : 12-058  NASA's Marshall Center Concludes Wind Tunnel Testing to Aid in SpaceX Reusable Launch System Design   HUNTSVILLE, Ala. – NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Ala., completed wind tunnel testing for Space Exploration Technologies (SpaceX) of Hawthorn, Calif., to provide Falcon 9 first stage re-entry data for the company's advanced reusable launch vehicle system.

Under a Reimbursable Space Act Agreement, Marshall conducted 176 runs in the wind tunnel test facility on the Falcon 9 first stage to provide SpaceX with test data that will be used to develop a re-entry database for the recovery of the Falcon 9 first stage. Tests were conducted at several orientations and speeds ranging from Mach numbers 0.3, or 228 miles per hour at sea level, to Mach 5, or 3,811 miles per hour at sea level, to gage how the first stage reacts during the descent phase of flight.

"Marshall's aerodynamics team has vast experience in launch vehicle design and development and our wind tunnel offers an affordable, quick-turn solution to companies who are looking to generate aerodynamic test data on early launch vehicle design configurations," said Teresa Vanhooser, manager of the Flight Programs and Partnerships Office at Marshall. "We believe that providing technical expertise enables development of new and innovative technologies that aid the industry as a whole and helps NASA to continue with our deep space exploration mission."

Marshall's Aerodynamic Research Facility's 14-square-inch trisonic wind tunnel is an intermittent, blow-down tunnel that operates from high-pressure storage to either vacuum or atmospheric exhaust. The facility is capable of conducting tests in the subsonic, transonic, and supersonic mach ranges using its two interchangeable test sections. Subsonic Mach numbers are below Mach 1, the speed of sound, or 760 miles per hour at sea level, while transonic speeds approach and are slightly above Mach 1. The facility can achieve a maximum supersonic Mach number of 5, or five times the speed of sound.

In addition to wind tunnel testing, Marshall is providing propulsion engineering support to SpaceX in the development of the SuperDraco Launch Abort System (LAS) and on-orbit propulsion systems. Marshall is supplying SpaceX with Reaction Control Systems lessons learned that will be incorporated into the Dragon spacecraft's design for steering and attitude control. Marshall engineers also are providing technical insight in the development of materials and processes to support future improvements of the Falcon 9 and Dragon to be used in the SpaceX Commercial Crew Development Program.

"Since 2007, Marshall has supported the Commercial Orbital Transportation Services (COTS) Program by providing engineering expertise and technical insight to aid our commercial partners in developing their transportation capabilities," stated Vanhooser. "The Marshall Center has over 50 years of spaceflight experience and propulsion expertise to draw upon to help our commercial partners solve the complex challenges of space travel."

Marshall has been engaged throughout the development in evaluating the Falcon 9 launch vehicle and Dragon spacecraft systems' design under the Commercial Orbital Transportation Services Program led by the Johnson Space Center in Houston for the Human Exploration and Operations Mission Directorate (HEOMD) in Washington. The Marshall team supported various design reviews, flight readiness reviews, post-flight reviews and special studies.

The Marshall Center also provides SpaceX technical support as requested under the Commercial Crew Program (CCP) led by the Kennedy Space Center for HEOMD. Engineers from the Marshall Center have been engaged with SpaceX by serving as the CCP launch vehicle systems lead and by providing discipline support to the partner integration teams.

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/mars ... es/2012/12-058.html

Kimberly Newton
Marshall Space Flight Center, Huntsville, Ala.
256-544-0034
Kimberly.D.Newton@nasa.gov

05.23.12 RELEASE : 12-058  NASA's Marshall Center Concludes Wind Tunnel Testing to Aid in SpaceX Reusable Launch System Design   HUNTSVILLE, Ala. – NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Ala., completed wind tunnel testing for Space Exploration Technologies (SpaceX) of Hawthorn, Calif., to provide Falcon 9 first stage re-entry data for the company's advanced reusable launch vehicle system.

Under a Reimbursable Space Act Agreement, Marshall conducted 176 runs in the wind tunnel test facility on the Falcon 9 first stage to provide SpaceX with test data that will be used to develop a re-entry database for the recovery of the Falcon 9 first stage. Tests were conducted at several orientations and speeds ranging from Mach numbers 0.3, or 228 miles per hour at sea level, to Mach 5, or 3,811 miles per hour at sea level, to gage how the first stage reacts during the descent phase of flight.

"Marshall's aerodynamics team has vast experience in launch vehicle design and development and our wind tunnel offers an affordable, quick-turn solution to companies who are looking to generate aerodynamic test data on early launch vehicle design configurations," said Teresa Vanhooser, manager of the Flight Programs and Partnerships Office at Marshall. "We believe that providing technical expertise enables development of new and innovative technologies that aid the industry as a whole and helps NASA to continue with our deep space exploration mission."

Marshall's Aerodynamic Research Facility's 14-square-inch trisonic wind tunnel is an intermittent, blow-down tunnel that operates from high-pressure storage to either vacuum or atmospheric exhaust. The facility is capable of conducting tests in the subsonic, transonic, and supersonic mach ranges using its two interchangeable test sections. Subsonic Mach numbers are below Mach 1, the speed of sound, or 760 miles per hour at sea level, while transonic speeds approach and are slightly above Mach 1. The facility can achieve a maximum supersonic Mach number of 5, or five times the speed of sound.

In addition to wind tunnel testing, Marshall is providing propulsion engineering support to SpaceX in the development of the SuperDraco Launch Abort System (LAS) and on-orbit propulsion systems. Marshall is supplying SpaceX with Reaction Control Systems lessons learned that will be incorporated into the Dragon spacecraft's design for steering and attitude control. Marshall engineers also are providing technical insight in the development of materials and processes to support future improvements of the Falcon 9 and Dragon to be used in the SpaceX Commercial Crew Development Program.

"Since 2007, Marshall has supported the Commercial Orbital Transportation Services (COTS) Program by providing engineering expertise and technical insight to aid our commercial partners in developing their transportation capabilities," stated Vanhooser. "The Marshall Center has over 50 years of spaceflight experience and propulsion expertise to draw upon to help our commercial partners solve the complex challenges of space travel."

Marshall has been engaged throughout the development in evaluating the Falcon 9 launch vehicle and Dragon spacecraft systems' design under the Commercial Orbital Transportation Services Program led by the Johnson Space Center in Houston for the Human Exploration and Operations Mission Directorate (HEOMD) in Washington. The Marshall team supported various design reviews, flight readiness reviews, post-flight reviews and special studies.

The Marshall Center also provides SpaceX technical support as requested under the Commercial Crew Program (CCP) led by the Kennedy Space Center for HEOMD. Engineers from the Marshall Center have been engaged with SpaceX by serving as the CCP launch vehicle systems lead and by providing discipline support to the partner integration teams.

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/mars ... es/2012/12-058.html
Elon Muskx需要拉点赞助费啊
热屏蔽材料

http://www.nasa.gov/offices/oce/ ... 40s_space-x_prt.htm

SpaceX公司和轨道科学公司就是在NASA全力金钱和技术支持下的产物     还有更多NASA支持的相关内容      有兴趣的朋友可以去找寻下相关资料


  
让他们好好研究吧,将来我们也借鉴一下


Fastrac or alternatively MC-1 engine was a pump-fed liquid rocket engine developed by NASA for use on small inexpensive, expendable rockets.Fastrac uses RP-1 kerosene and liquid oxygen as propellants in a gas-generator power cycle
Ignition of engine was achieved via starter fluid injected into combustion chamber before kerosene was fed

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fastrac_(engine)


那么我们看下 SpaceX的梅林发动机介绍吧

Merlin is a rocket engine developed by SpaceX for use on its Falcon 1 and Falcon 9 rockets
Merlin uses RP-1 and liquid oxygen as propellants in a gas-generator power cycle
The Merlin engine is designed for sea recovery and reuse
The injector at the heart of Merlin is of the pintle type that was first used in the Apollo Program for the lunar module landing engine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merlin_(rocket_engine)

Fastrac or alternatively MC-1 engine was a pump-fed liquid rocket engine developed by NASA for use on small inexpensive, expendable rockets.Fastrac uses RP-1 kerosene and liquid oxygen as propellants in a gas-generator power cycle
Ignition of engine was achieved via starter fluid injected into combustion chamber before kerosene was fed

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fastrac_(engine)


那么我们看下 SpaceX的梅林发动机介绍吧

Merlin is a rocket engine developed by SpaceX for use on its Falcon 1 and Falcon 9 rockets
Merlin uses RP-1 and liquid oxygen as propellants in a gas-generator power cycle
The Merlin engine is designed for sea recovery and reuse
The injector at the heart of Merlin is of the pintle type that was first used in the Apollo Program for the lunar module landing engine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merlin_(rocket_engine)
某些人一听说私营企业 就和打鸡血一样
感觉私营企业的性质并不是那么纯。不过对我们航天业也有一定的借鉴的作用。
其实也就把火箭那块分出来做 成本方面不算便宜吧
没有意义,没有NASA它什么都不是

    没有NASA的长期政府投入,这私人公司能干什么?

其实,就是把航天技术中容易做的部分剥离出来交给私人公司。生产重要技术部件全部靠NASA。
这就是传说中的“新闻”
是否有政府补贴?
说到高科技在一定的发展阶段    一些配套适当的采用市场化运作     这个是正确的    也不会有任何争议

但是一听说私有企业    某些人就如同打鸡血一样     大言不惭的高呼   “私营企业战胜举国体制”

这群脑袋决定屁股的人   显然是非常让人厌恶的   

忙碌的蚂蚁 发表于 2012-5-26 14:24
说到高科技在一定的发展阶段    一些配套适当的采用市场化运作     这个是正确的    也不会有任何争议

但 ...


我本来给你留了面子,之前那个帖子没有再继续——写的是“慢慢发”,但实际没有再发 :D

如果感兴趣,我会继续普及一下老美的商业航天。  至于普及的帖子发多慢,视情况而定 :D

忙碌的蚂蚁 发表于 2012-5-26 14:24
说到高科技在一定的发展阶段    一些配套适当的采用市场化运作     这个是正确的    也不会有任何争议

但 ...


我本来给你留了面子,之前那个帖子没有再继续——写的是“慢慢发”,但实际没有再发 :D

如果感兴趣,我会继续普及一下老美的商业航天。  至于普及的帖子发多慢,视情况而定 :D
rolltide 发表于 2012-5-26 14:40
我本来给你留了面子,之前那个帖子没有再继续——写的是“慢慢发”,但实际没有再发

如果感兴趣, ...

实际上,发老美商业航天、民间航天的内容,主要是讲民间企业模式对产业的推动作用。

而不是真正的为了讲他们的商业航天、民间航天多么NB。因为TG现在航空产业化也才刚刚开始,而航天,还处在原始积累阶段。这与MD不太具有可比性。
NASA的三产?
rolltide 发表于 2012-5-26 14:46
实际上,发老美商业航天、民间航天的内容,主要是讲民间企业模式对产业的推动作用。

而不是真正的为 ...

你还去 http://lt.cjdby.net/thread-1387086-3-1.html   这个帖子里面继续演绎私有神话吧      这里显然你不够精彩

rolltide 发表于 2012-5-26 14:40
我本来给你留了面子,之前那个帖子没有再继续——写的是“慢慢发”,但实际没有再发

如果感兴趣, ...


你应该普及下  私有战胜举国体制 ;P    用不着给我留面子     纯属自作多情{:soso_e104:}
rolltide 发表于 2012-5-26 14:40
我本来给你留了面子,之前那个帖子没有再继续——写的是“慢慢发”,但实际没有再发

如果感兴趣, ...


你应该普及下  私有战胜举国体制 ;P    用不着给我留面子     纯属自作多情{:soso_e104:}
如果是一个没有外部技术支持完全由无到有的一个私人公司做到这点绝对的值得尊敬,但是实际不是那么回事。。要说是老美敢放开限制我们如果有私人公司愿意玩票的话是不是也可以随便就战胜“举国体制”了呢?再说了全世界就只有美国和中国吗,欧洲,俄毛,小日等等都是火星了?吹日本印度的时候从来没有提过什么举国体制。。。


到目前为止,航天这桌大餐里,举国体制还是主菜,刚刚引入的所谓私人太空运输公司最多也就算是一点新的调味料而已。当然,加些新的调料确实可以使大餐的味道更加丰富,但有些人被多出来的那点新味道就搞昏了头,以为那点新调料马上就要变身为大餐里的主菜,光吃调料就能强身健体了似的。

到目前为止,航天这桌大餐里,举国体制还是主菜,刚刚引入的所谓私人太空运输公司最多也就算是一点新的调味料而已。当然,加些新的调料确实可以使大餐的味道更加丰富,但有些人被多出来的那点新味道就搞昏了头,以为那点新调料马上就要变身为大餐里的主菜,光吃调料就能强身健体了似的。
把这么多的技术转让,这个算是国有资产流失吗?
真这么牛逼,还要NASA干嘛?没钱了卖家当而已,这就是真相!
印美钞是私人公司,造火箭私人公司不奇怪。