【翻译贴】印度网站对J-20评论 1/12/2011更新

原文这里就不翻译了，大概意思都差不多，我主要翻译的是下面的评论。

Karthik Duraisamy (San Francisco)
1 hr ago (08:22 AM)
How can China be the 2nd country after US to have test flown the Stealth Fighter when India/Russia have already test flown 40 times T-50 as of November 2010. I don't think it makes sense !!!

更新：

中国怎么能是世界上除了美国之外第二个实验隐形飞机的呢？印度和俄罗斯在2010年11月就试飞T-50，40多次，我真的很不理解

Rapter (Washington)
5 hrs ago (11:04 PM)
Doing something on paper is much easier than making actual product - be it Amazon Kindle, Apple iPhone, Cisco 12k

router, or moon orbiter, stealth fighter jet, or Boeing 777s... On paper, about 35 nations could have these, but

in reality one very few could deliver these products. This is called manfacturing not call centers! A stealth jet

need so many component that India can simply not produce. For China, it has its own indigenous jet engine (meaning

they own all the design), but it still has trouble with the craftmanship of producing a durable engine. Think

about this, Lexus or BMW are widely available, but how many countries could emulate them into production ? No,

Tata Nano is not innovation.

纸上谈兵比真正的作出东西来容易多了，比如Amazon Kindle, IPHONE, 思科路由器，登月卫星，隐形战机，波音777等等。有35个

国家曾经在纸面上提出来类似技术水平的设计。但是实际上只有少数的几个国家能生产这样的东西。（看来此人对三个的PPT功力

很不满啊）这就是制造业的威力，电话服务中心不会能制造任何东西。一架隐形战机需要很多的零件，大部分的零件印度都不能生

产。对于中国，他们拥有自己的设计的发动机，尽管发动机的耐用性还有问题。这样想，凌志和宝马车到处都能买到，但是有几个

国家真正的能仿造出来呢，不，塔塔的纳米车根本不是创新。
--这人是个明白人

sahajpal (delhi) replies to Rapter
3 hrs ago (12:26 AM)
This so called stealth fighter is nothing but a large version of J 10 with angles and painted it black you call it

innovation As per experts is the armament and radar are not stealhy at all.china has been known to steal most of

the technology from west. several chinese spies have been arrested for stealing various tehnologies ,there is

nothing innovatve, its the same as manufaturing products from prefabficated moulds provided by walmart and

labeling it made in china.Like the J10 was a copy of israeli AL lavi And the engine is Russian AL31fn turbofan

This all stolen or borrowed technology.

所谓的隐形战机根本就是一个放大版本的J10，然后涂上黑漆。这样就拉出来说是创新而且它根本就不隐形。中国在偷取西方技术

的上是臭名昭著的。很多的中国间谍都因为这个被抓起来了。这根本就不是创新。这就像是根据Walmart提供的图纸生产产品然后

标上“中国制造”一样。J10简直就是一以色列战机的翻版，发动机还是用的俄罗斯的AL31fn涡扇。他们全是偷窃或者“借取”的技术
--此人典型的印度人想法

RAPTER replies to sahajpal
23 hrs ago (09:29 AM)
sahajpal, the Chinese has to agree with you that Tata Nano is a lot more innovative than the J-20. The stealth signature of Nano is quite high, and Nano is 100% indigenous design, better than Lexus which is not 100% Japanese indigenous design, Lexus design center is located in Irvine, California.

sahajpal 中国人不得不相信塔塔的纳米车比歼20要有创新性，不然你会没完的。塔塔纳米车的隐形设计水平非常的高，并且是自主设计的，比凌志车要好的多。凌志车也不是日本自主设计的，他们的设计中心在美国加州。

sahajpal replies to RAPTER
22 hrs ago (10:02 AM)
you have a disjointed thought process.Are you somehow trying to prove J20 is akin to F22.

你的脑袋简直秀逗了，你在试图证明歼20和F22在一个档次。


RAPTER replies to sahajpal
31 mins ago (03:33 AM)
I guess India didn't deliberately fail its geo-sync saterlite lunch last month. It HAD trouble making it work,

right ?! Even as the rocket uses Russian made 3rd stage booster, India didn't copy the Russian 1st stage design

correctly to reach the 3rd stage, LOL.

我想印度没有故意的让上个月的火箭发射失败的吧。火箭确实有问题，对吧。尽管第三级火箭使用了俄罗斯的发动机，但是印度没

有成功的拷贝俄罗斯第一级火箭发动机的设计，所以根本没有达到第三级。大笑
--这脸打的，piapia的


sahajpal replies to RAPTER
12 Jan, 2011 04:13 AM
How many chinese satellites failed no none will ever know,since there is always a news blackout in china whenever there is bad news unlike in India

有多少次中国的卫星发射失败。没有人会知道的，因为他们只会发布好消息，而在印度，各种消息都能发表。

Yi (Nepal) replies to sahajpal
16 hrs ago (03:43 PM)
I would say India did the same thing. It is true that a lot of bad news happening in India came to the media, but definitely not all of them. Therefore, the end effect is the same: you did not get all the bad news in India.

我觉得印度也在做同样的事情。印度媒体确实报道了很多印度的坏消息，但绝对不是全部的。所以最后的结果都是一样的，你不知道所有的印度的坏消息。

SL (UK) replies to sahajpal
12 Jan, 2011 05:56 AM
Any failed launch by any country will be easily detected by all the US spying satellits in space. It can't be hidden.

任何国家发射的卫星都会被美国检测到，你不能隐瞒的。

sahajpal replies to SL
12 Jan, 2011 06:29 AM
Not necessarily true, several years ago when a north korean satellite blewup tokyo news agency reported it first.But in the event of a chinese failure there would be a news blackout in china

这不一定是真的，几年前朝鲜发射卫星就是日本新闻媒体首先报道的。但是如果中国的失败了，他们会禁止所有的媒体报道。

Rapter replies to sahajpal
12 Jan, 2011 05:16 AM
China still have 10 times more satterlites orbiting the earth than India

中国的卫星比印度多10倍以上

sahajpal replies to Rapter
12 Jan, 2011 05:39 AM
satterlites ok

好吧，卫星多.





Rapter replies to sahajpal
2 hrs ago (01:55 AM)
And India can make all these ? Where do you buy a DSL modem in India today ?! or any cell phones ? Talk about

India being the most innovative nation on earth, at lease make something even by copying.


另外印度制造了所有的零部件么？在印度，你在哪里买上网用的猫呢？或者手机。印度想成为最具有创新性的国家，先翻版一些东

西再说。

sahajpal replies to Rapter
1 hr ago (02:33 AM)
chinese are dumping the imitated garbage all over the world.India is a resilient country with transparency

compared to china.Our biggest handicap is the goverance .We have enough talent to compete and excel given the

right envoirment.India is rapidly developing its infrastructure, soon those prefabricated moulds will shift from

china to india. currently chinese per capitais $300/mo to india,s $ 100/mo so it will be cheaper to manufacture

goods in India than china

中国正在向全世界倾销他们的垃圾。印度是一个有毅力的国家。跟中国比，我们的政府更加透明。我们最大的问题是政府执行力。

我们有足够的人力资源来达到世界的巅峰，如果各种条件都配合的话。印度的基础设施正在飞速发展。很快所有的那些预测模型就

要从中国转移到印度了。现在中国的人均GDP是300/mo，而印度是100/mo。所以在印度生产东西会比在中国便宜。
--将来是印度的，过去是韩国的

Badabing (USA) replies to sahajpal
37 mins ago (03:27 AM)
Sahajpal, okay India's biggest hindrance is the lack of capable governance, per cap is way lower than China. You

are leaving out skilled and willful labor force; super productive on the line resources. Indian labor productivity

is not all that. Just because labor is cheaper does not mean it's a true competitive edge. You pride yourself on

transparency? Even if it is really transparent you wouldn't like what you'll see. You wish you have the imitated

garbage to dump off to the rest of the World; it's called market segmentation. You can cowl inside your cellophane

hut and stroke yourself to delirium but it won't change the fact that as the World's Largest Democracy, India

continues to put Nehru and Gandhi clan members into office to continue the agony. Will of the people you say? Or a

general lack of the sense of calling? I bet you if you put the Chinese work force under Indian governance, it'll

still out perform your current one; there might even be a brand new government in place afterwards too.

楼上的哥们，印度的最大问题确实是确实执行力，人均国民生产总值比中国低的多。你没有考虑劳动力量的差别。中国有勤劳的经

过良好培训的劳动力量，他们在生产线上效率特别高。印度人差远了。印度工资便宜并不代表最终产品便宜。

你以印度的透明度自豪？如果真的是透明的，那你也会不喜欢的。
你希望中国不倾销垃圾商品？这叫市场竞争力。你可以钻入自己的小世界，不管外面。但是你不能否认这个事实：最为实际上最大

的民主国家，印度的尼赫鲁和甘地家族一直把持着政治。人民的工作的意愿， 我打赌如果让印度政府来管理中国人民，他们依然

会比现在的印度人民好多了。更不用说，现在的印度政府在中国早被推翻了。

--这哥们其实就是在变相的骂印度人懒么，哈哈



sahajpal replies to Badabing
12 mins ago (03:52 AM)
I am glad you chinese are venting your frustation in the Indian media. if you do it in china they will hang you.

welcome to freedom

很高兴中国派你来印度的媒体上发牢骚。你如果在中国这么做，你会被绞死的。欢迎来到自由的印度。

--这哥们真不知道有老将,JY这种生物存在啊。

RAPTER replies to sahajpal
48 mins ago (03:16 AM)
sahajpal - China and the world certainly hope India is full of talents like you. BTW, do you work as part of the

government you mentioned ?

sahajpal--中国和世界人民衷心的希望印度人都像你一样。另外，你是不是也是给政府工作的。

--五毛到处都有啊



sahajpal replies to Badabing
12 Jan, 2011 05:20 AM
Chinese were living in the same cellophane huts until recently suddenly from peasants you think you have become royalty,but your mentality remains unchanged

中国不久前还非常的贫穷，然后你们突然爆发了，你们觉得你们变得富贵了，但是其实你的脑袋还是穷人脑袋。

sahajpal replies to Badabing
12 Jan, 2011 04:32 AM
I donot think you know the difference between prefabrication & copying since you are too busy rambling

我觉得你不懂看着图纸加工和盗版的区别。你还是忙着拷贝粘贴吧。


sahajpal replies to Badabing
12 Jan, 2011 04:23 AM
Of course all your lives chinese work force has had nothing to say but to obey.You are well trained

当然你们这些活着的中国工作奴隶不会说任何反对的东西的，你被训练的很好。




sahajpal replies to RAPTER
31 mins ago (04:51 AM)
If Iwere working for the govt. I wont be critical of it you genius. Like i said India is a transparent country all

the information is out there good or bad. unlike in china where only good news is filtered out

如果我是为政府工作的，我应该批评你的评论。就像我说的，印度的政府是透明的，我们知道印度的一切消息，不像中国只有好消

息才能发表。

Rapter replies to sahajpal
9 mins ago (05:13 AM)
At least it seems you genius knows plenty of bad news about China, and you think India's sky is brighte

至少你看起来像是真的知道中国的很多坏消息，并且认为印度的天空更蓝一些。



sumit (USA) replies to Rapter
12 Jan, 2011 06:05 AM
I think Rapter need a noble price, if Chinese government allows it.

我觉得Rapter应该拿诺贝尔奖，当然如果中国政府与许的话。

RAPTER replies to sahajpal
21 hrs ago (10:54 AM)
sahajpal, you think having CNN and BBC in India == freedom ? I think India lost all its freedom due to CNN and BBC. The day India has freedom is when the USA and England have India Broadcasting.

sahajpal 你觉得你在印度能看CNN和BBC就等于有自由了？我认为正因为这样，印度根本没有自由。印度有自由的标志是美国和英国转播印度的新闻台。

sahajpal replies to Rapter
12 Jan, 2011 06:36 AM
chinese will blackout the entire world news(e.g CNN,BBC etc)from being broadcasted & keep their people ignorant of world events harmful to chinese cause

中国会屏蔽所有的世界的新闻媒体（CNN，BBC），这样他们的人们就会变得无知和驯服。

--这哥们真的不知道CNN已经快成国骂了么？

sahajpal (delhi) replies to sumit
12 Jan, 2011 07:06 AM
immitation of a nobel prize will be more appropriate because the real one is meant for people like mr.Xiaobo

诺贝尔和平奖不应该发给你，应该是给殖民三百年的
--这脑袋被殖民秀逗了，印度被殖民的时间太长了，脑袋转不过来了。

Anuj (USA) replies to RAPTER
4 hrs ago (04:35 AM)
dude (Rapter), Indian has its own media outlets too free from Govt Interference and free from CNN and BBC influence. And remember, Internet is not regulated in India, which is much more powerful than any media. It will hurt Chinese population in the long run by banning Google and other sources of knowledge.

哥们（Rapter）印度有自己的独立的新闻媒体，它们不受CNN，BBC的影响。记住印度的互联网非常的发达而且没人管，互联网的威力比传统媒体大多了。长期来看，禁止狗狗和其他的网站对中国是不利的。

--这个三哥不了解强大美国的爱国者法案吧！

sahajpal replies to RAPTER
2 hrs ago (06:33 AM)
Well it appears you not only have a poor sense of comprehension but poor analytical sense.I was refering to major media news blackout by chinese govt citing the example of CNN & BBC.I donot know where you got the idea I was linking these news media to India ,Although I will trust these institutions over the chinese medias propoganda machine anyday.

Rapter，你不仅没有整体观察能力，你还缺乏分析能力。我指的是屏蔽CNN和BBC，我不知道你怎么认为我说他们是印度的媒体。当然了，我相信他们的报道。

--洗脑成功








Ashutosh Divecha (Nagpur Maharashtra)
6 hrs ago (09:42 PM)
For any new invention / experiment or R & D - one needs a workshop / factory with all facilities - but when one

sets up a workshop or factory - then one has to FIRST have an encounter with - Octroi walla then VAT Officer then

Industries Registration then Factory Act Registration then Pollution Board clearance then Fire NOC then Building

permit Then electrical Inspector then Central Excise office then Service tax office then Proffession tax office

then Labour Officer then Financial institutions After all the encounters the Inventor has lost all hopes to do

something creative. One cannot put a factory just for new inventions and R&D specifically but that happens in the

regular course of work, whereas sometimes it feels it is a crime to work honestly in this country. Government is

interested only in Tax Revenue from Industry and not creativity Hey Ram

在印度，如果你想要发明/做实验/做研究，你需要建立一个工厂。这样你首先需要和Octroi walla（估计是印度的城管），然后

VAT,然后是工业注册部门，然后是工厂注册部门，然后是环境管理局，然后是消防部门，然后是建设许可证，然后是电力检测，然

后是中央管理部门，然后是地方税务部门，然后是国家税务部门，然后是工会，然后是财务部。经过这样一个过程后，任何人都是

没有创新的想法了。只为创新而建立的工厂是不允许的。很多时候在这个国家诚实的工作让人觉得是犯罪。政府仅仅关心税收，根

本不关心创新。

vkkis (singaproe)
7 hrs ago (08:15 PM)
india has its own designed & Developed engine, which is bleeding this country with correcption and undevelopment.

The Engine name is "GANDHI".

印度有自己的研发部门，但是他们正在掏空国家，腐败和无能是他们的特点。这些人的名字叫“甘地”
--看来对甘地有意见的人相当多啊

secret (US) replies to vkkis
6 hrs ago (09:56 PM)
I think it is imported from Italy.

我认为这是从印度引进的。

Rohit Kumar (NEW - DELHI ) replies to secret
3 hrs ago (12:28 AM)
MADE IN ITALY engine SONIA MANIO !!!!!!!! :D

意大利制造！！

Shaik (India)
12 hrs ago (04:01 PM)
Let the indians keep reading development of others, rather striving to develop something better, recently we have

tejas costing more than 3000% from actual cost, and what does tejas advance for indian air force, air force and

developer knows, lets start thinking and building ahead of others to be a better defendant of nation

印度人喜欢看别人的发展故事而不是自己的发展故事。最近我们的tejas项目超支30倍以上。这个项目能给印度空军带来什么，天知

道。

Nirvikar Goel Goel (Ghaziabad) replies to Shaik
8 hrs ago (07:28 PM)
unless we design and make our own engine any such development will not be called indigenous development.we have

enough talent but who will use them only Americans, since it will be a big threat to the leader's earnings.


除非我们自己设计和制造发动机，否则任何发展都是盗窃的。我们有很多天才，但是他们都在美国发财呢，如果他们回来会影响我

们领导人发财的。

原文这里就不翻译了，大概意思都差不多，我主要翻译的是下面的评论。

Karthik Duraisamy (San Francisco)
1 hr ago (08:22 AM)
How can China be the 2nd country after US to have test flown the Stealth Fighter when India/Russia have already test flown 40 times T-50 as of November 2010. I don't think it makes sense !!!

更新：

中国怎么能是世界上除了美国之外第二个实验隐形飞机的呢？印度和俄罗斯在2010年11月就试飞T-50，40多次，我真的很不理解

Rapter (Washington)
5 hrs ago (11:04 PM)
Doing something on paper is much easier than making actual product - be it Amazon Kindle, Apple iPhone, Cisco 12k

router, or moon orbiter, stealth fighter jet, or Boeing 777s... On paper, about 35 nations could have these, but

in reality one very few could deliver these products. This is called manfacturing not call centers! A stealth jet

need so many component that India can simply not produce. For China, it has its own indigenous jet engine (meaning

they own all the design), but it still has trouble with the craftmanship of producing a durable engine. Think

about this, Lexus or BMW are widely available, but how many countries could emulate them into production ? No,

Tata Nano is not innovation.

纸上谈兵比真正的作出东西来容易多了，比如Amazon Kindle, IPHONE, 思科路由器，登月卫星，隐形战机，波音777等等。有35个

国家曾经在纸面上提出来类似技术水平的设计。但是实际上只有少数的几个国家能生产这样的东西。（看来此人对三个的PPT功力

很不满啊）这就是制造业的威力，电话服务中心不会能制造任何东西。一架隐形战机需要很多的零件，大部分的零件印度都不能生

产。对于中国，他们拥有自己的设计的发动机，尽管发动机的耐用性还有问题。这样想，凌志和宝马车到处都能买到，但是有几个

国家真正的能仿造出来呢，不，塔塔的纳米车根本不是创新。
--这人是个明白人

sahajpal (delhi) replies to Rapter
3 hrs ago (12:26 AM)
This so called stealth fighter is nothing but a large version of J 10 with angles and painted it black you call it

innovation As per experts is the armament and radar are not stealhy at all.china has been known to steal most of

the technology from west. several chinese spies have been arrested for stealing various tehnologies ,there is

nothing innovatve, its the same as manufaturing products from prefabficated moulds provided by walmart and

labeling it made in china.Like the J10 was a copy of israeli AL lavi And the engine is Russian AL31fn turbofan

This all stolen or borrowed technology.

所谓的隐形战机根本就是一个放大版本的J10，然后涂上黑漆。这样就拉出来说是创新而且它根本就不隐形。中国在偷取西方技术

的上是臭名昭著的。很多的中国间谍都因为这个被抓起来了。这根本就不是创新。这就像是根据Walmart提供的图纸生产产品然后

标上“中国制造”一样。J10简直就是一以色列战机的翻版，发动机还是用的俄罗斯的AL31fn涡扇。他们全是偷窃或者“借取”的技术
--此人典型的印度人想法

RAPTER replies to sahajpal
23 hrs ago (09:29 AM)
sahajpal, the Chinese has to agree with you that Tata Nano is a lot more innovative than the J-20. The stealth signature of Nano is quite high, and Nano is 100% indigenous design, better than Lexus which is not 100% Japanese indigenous design, Lexus design center is located in Irvine, California.

sahajpal 中国人不得不相信塔塔的纳米车比歼20要有创新性，不然你会没完的。塔塔纳米车的隐形设计水平非常的高，并且是自主设计的，比凌志车要好的多。凌志车也不是日本自主设计的，他们的设计中心在美国加州。

sahajpal replies to RAPTER
22 hrs ago (10:02 AM)
you have a disjointed thought process.Are you somehow trying to prove J20 is akin to F22.

你的脑袋简直秀逗了，你在试图证明歼20和F22在一个档次。


RAPTER replies to sahajpal
31 mins ago (03:33 AM)
I guess India didn't deliberately fail its geo-sync saterlite lunch last month. It HAD trouble making it work,

right ?! Even as the rocket uses Russian made 3rd stage booster, India didn't copy the Russian 1st stage design

correctly to reach the 3rd stage, LOL.

我想印度没有故意的让上个月的火箭发射失败的吧。火箭确实有问题，对吧。尽管第三级火箭使用了俄罗斯的发动机，但是印度没

有成功的拷贝俄罗斯第一级火箭发动机的设计，所以根本没有达到第三级。大笑
--这脸打的，piapia的


sahajpal replies to RAPTER
12 Jan, 2011 04:13 AM
How many chinese satellites failed no none will ever know,since there is always a news blackout in china whenever there is bad news unlike in India

有多少次中国的卫星发射失败。没有人会知道的，因为他们只会发布好消息，而在印度，各种消息都能发表。

Yi (Nepal) replies to sahajpal
16 hrs ago (03:43 PM)
I would say India did the same thing. It is true that a lot of bad news happening in India came to the media, but definitely not all of them. Therefore, the end effect is the same: you did not get all the bad news in India.

我觉得印度也在做同样的事情。印度媒体确实报道了很多印度的坏消息，但绝对不是全部的。所以最后的结果都是一样的，你不知道所有的印度的坏消息。

SL (UK) replies to sahajpal
12 Jan, 2011 05:56 AM
Any failed launch by any country will be easily detected by all the US spying satellits in space. It can't be hidden.

任何国家发射的卫星都会被美国检测到，你不能隐瞒的。

sahajpal replies to SL
12 Jan, 2011 06:29 AM
Not necessarily true, several years ago when a north korean satellite blewup tokyo news agency reported it first.But in the event of a chinese failure there would be a news blackout in china

这不一定是真的，几年前朝鲜发射卫星就是日本新闻媒体首先报道的。但是如果中国的失败了，他们会禁止所有的媒体报道。

Rapter replies to sahajpal
12 Jan, 2011 05:16 AM
China still have 10 times more satterlites orbiting the earth than India

中国的卫星比印度多10倍以上

sahajpal replies to Rapter
12 Jan, 2011 05:39 AM
satterlites ok

好吧，卫星多.





Rapter replies to sahajpal
2 hrs ago (01:55 AM)
And India can make all these ? Where do you buy a DSL modem in India today ?! or any cell phones ? Talk about

India being the most innovative nation on earth, at lease make something even by copying.


另外印度制造了所有的零部件么？在印度，你在哪里买上网用的猫呢？或者手机。印度想成为最具有创新性的国家，先翻版一些东

西再说。

sahajpal replies to Rapter
1 hr ago (02:33 AM)
chinese are dumping the imitated garbage all over the world.India is a resilient country with transparency

compared to china.Our biggest handicap is the goverance .We have enough talent to compete and excel given the

right envoirment.India is rapidly developing its infrastructure, soon those prefabricated moulds will shift from

china to india. currently chinese per capitais $300/mo to india,s $ 100/mo so it will be cheaper to manufacture

goods in India than china

中国正在向全世界倾销他们的垃圾。印度是一个有毅力的国家。跟中国比，我们的政府更加透明。我们最大的问题是政府执行力。

我们有足够的人力资源来达到世界的巅峰，如果各种条件都配合的话。印度的基础设施正在飞速发展。很快所有的那些预测模型就

要从中国转移到印度了。现在中国的人均GDP是300/mo，而印度是100/mo。所以在印度生产东西会比在中国便宜。
--将来是印度的，过去是韩国的

Badabing (USA) replies to sahajpal
37 mins ago (03:27 AM)
Sahajpal, okay India's biggest hindrance is the lack of capable governance, per cap is way lower than China. You

are leaving out skilled and willful labor force; super productive on the line resources. Indian labor productivity

is not all that. Just because labor is cheaper does not mean it's a true competitive edge. You pride yourself on

transparency? Even if it is really transparent you wouldn't like what you'll see. You wish you have the imitated

garbage to dump off to the rest of the World; it's called market segmentation. You can cowl inside your cellophane

hut and stroke yourself to delirium but it won't change the fact that as the World's Largest Democracy, India

continues to put Nehru and Gandhi clan members into office to continue the agony. Will of the people you say? Or a

general lack of the sense of calling? I bet you if you put the Chinese work force under Indian governance, it'll

still out perform your current one; there might even be a brand new government in place afterwards too.

楼上的哥们，印度的最大问题确实是确实执行力，人均国民生产总值比中国低的多。你没有考虑劳动力量的差别。中国有勤劳的经

过良好培训的劳动力量，他们在生产线上效率特别高。印度人差远了。印度工资便宜并不代表最终产品便宜。

你以印度的透明度自豪？如果真的是透明的，那你也会不喜欢的。
你希望中国不倾销垃圾商品？这叫市场竞争力。你可以钻入自己的小世界，不管外面。但是你不能否认这个事实：最为实际上最大

的民主国家，印度的尼赫鲁和甘地家族一直把持着政治。人民的工作的意愿， 我打赌如果让印度政府来管理中国人民，他们依然

会比现在的印度人民好多了。更不用说，现在的印度政府在中国早被推翻了。

--这哥们其实就是在变相的骂印度人懒么，哈哈



sahajpal replies to Badabing
12 mins ago (03:52 AM)
I am glad you chinese are venting your frustation in the Indian media. if you do it in china they will hang you.

welcome to freedom

很高兴中国派你来印度的媒体上发牢骚。你如果在中国这么做，你会被绞死的。欢迎来到自由的印度。

--这哥们真不知道有老将,JY这种生物存在啊。

RAPTER replies to sahajpal
48 mins ago (03:16 AM)
sahajpal - China and the world certainly hope India is full of talents like you. BTW, do you work as part of the

government you mentioned ?

sahajpal--中国和世界人民衷心的希望印度人都像你一样。另外，你是不是也是给政府工作的。

--五毛到处都有啊



sahajpal replies to Badabing
12 Jan, 2011 05:20 AM
Chinese were living in the same cellophane huts until recently suddenly from peasants you think you have become royalty,but your mentality remains unchanged

中国不久前还非常的贫穷，然后你们突然爆发了，你们觉得你们变得富贵了，但是其实你的脑袋还是穷人脑袋。

sahajpal replies to Badabing
12 Jan, 2011 04:32 AM
I donot think you know the difference between prefabrication & copying since you are too busy rambling

我觉得你不懂看着图纸加工和盗版的区别。你还是忙着拷贝粘贴吧。


sahajpal replies to Badabing
12 Jan, 2011 04:23 AM
Of course all your lives chinese work force has had nothing to say but to obey.You are well trained

当然你们这些活着的中国工作奴隶不会说任何反对的东西的，你被训练的很好。




sahajpal replies to RAPTER
31 mins ago (04:51 AM)
If Iwere working for the govt. I wont be critical of it you genius. Like i said India is a transparent country all

the information is out there good or bad. unlike in china where only good news is filtered out

如果我是为政府工作的，我应该批评你的评论。就像我说的，印度的政府是透明的，我们知道印度的一切消息，不像中国只有好消

息才能发表。

Rapter replies to sahajpal
9 mins ago (05:13 AM)
At least it seems you genius knows plenty of bad news about China, and you think India's sky is brighte

至少你看起来像是真的知道中国的很多坏消息，并且认为印度的天空更蓝一些。



sumit (USA) replies to Rapter
12 Jan, 2011 06:05 AM
I think Rapter need a noble price, if Chinese government allows it.

我觉得Rapter应该拿诺贝尔奖，当然如果中国政府与许的话。

RAPTER replies to sahajpal
21 hrs ago (10:54 AM)
sahajpal, you think having CNN and BBC in India == freedom ? I think India lost all its freedom due to CNN and BBC. The day India has freedom is when the USA and England have India Broadcasting.

sahajpal 你觉得你在印度能看CNN和BBC就等于有自由了？我认为正因为这样，印度根本没有自由。印度有自由的标志是美国和英国转播印度的新闻台。

sahajpal replies to Rapter
12 Jan, 2011 06:36 AM
chinese will blackout the entire world news(e.g CNN,BBC etc)from being broadcasted & keep their people ignorant of world events harmful to chinese cause

中国会屏蔽所有的世界的新闻媒体（CNN，BBC），这样他们的人们就会变得无知和驯服。

--这哥们真的不知道CNN已经快成国骂了么？

sahajpal (delhi) replies to sumit
12 Jan, 2011 07:06 AM
immitation of a nobel prize will be more appropriate because the real one is meant for people like mr.Xiaobo

诺贝尔和平奖不应该发给你，应该是给殖民三百年的
--这脑袋被殖民秀逗了，印度被殖民的时间太长了，脑袋转不过来了。

Anuj (USA) replies to RAPTER
4 hrs ago (04:35 AM)
dude (Rapter), Indian has its own media outlets too free from Govt Interference and free from CNN and BBC influence. And remember, Internet is not regulated in India, which is much more powerful than any media. It will hurt Chinese population in the long run by banning Google and other sources of knowledge.

哥们（Rapter）印度有自己的独立的新闻媒体，它们不受CNN，BBC的影响。记住印度的互联网非常的发达而且没人管，互联网的威力比传统媒体大多了。长期来看，禁止狗狗和其他的网站对中国是不利的。

--这个三哥不了解强大美国的爱国者法案吧！

sahajpal replies to RAPTER
2 hrs ago (06:33 AM)
Well it appears you not only have a poor sense of comprehension but poor analytical sense.I was refering to major media news blackout by chinese govt citing the example of CNN & BBC.I donot know where you got the idea I was linking these news media to India ,Although I will trust these institutions over the chinese medias propoganda machine anyday.

Rapter，你不仅没有整体观察能力，你还缺乏分析能力。我指的是屏蔽CNN和BBC，我不知道你怎么认为我说他们是印度的媒体。当然了，我相信他们的报道。

--洗脑成功








Ashutosh Divecha (Nagpur Maharashtra)
6 hrs ago (09:42 PM)
For any new invention / experiment or R & D - one needs a workshop / factory with all facilities - but when one

sets up a workshop or factory - then one has to FIRST have an encounter with - Octroi walla then VAT Officer then

Industries Registration then Factory Act Registration then Pollution Board clearance then Fire NOC then Building

permit Then electrical Inspector then Central Excise office then Service tax office then Proffession tax office

then Labour Officer then Financial institutions After all the encounters the Inventor has lost all hopes to do

something creative. One cannot put a factory just for new inventions and R&D specifically but that happens in the

regular course of work, whereas sometimes it feels it is a crime to work honestly in this country. Government is

interested only in Tax Revenue from Industry and not creativity Hey Ram

在印度，如果你想要发明/做实验/做研究，你需要建立一个工厂。这样你首先需要和Octroi walla（估计是印度的城管），然后

VAT,然后是工业注册部门，然后是工厂注册部门，然后是环境管理局，然后是消防部门，然后是建设许可证，然后是电力检测，然

后是中央管理部门，然后是地方税务部门，然后是国家税务部门，然后是工会，然后是财务部。经过这样一个过程后，任何人都是

没有创新的想法了。只为创新而建立的工厂是不允许的。很多时候在这个国家诚实的工作让人觉得是犯罪。政府仅仅关心税收，根

本不关心创新。

vkkis (singaproe)
7 hrs ago (08:15 PM)
india has its own designed & Developed engine, which is bleeding this country with correcption and undevelopment.

The Engine name is "GANDHI".

印度有自己的研发部门，但是他们正在掏空国家，腐败和无能是他们的特点。这些人的名字叫“甘地”
--看来对甘地有意见的人相当多啊

secret (US) replies to vkkis
6 hrs ago (09:56 PM)
I think it is imported from Italy.

我认为这是从印度引进的。

Rohit Kumar (NEW - DELHI ) replies to secret
3 hrs ago (12:28 AM)
MADE IN ITALY engine SONIA MANIO !!!!!!!! :D

意大利制造！！

Shaik (India)
12 hrs ago (04:01 PM)
Let the indians keep reading development of others, rather striving to develop something better, recently we have

tejas costing more than 3000% from actual cost, and what does tejas advance for indian air force, air force and

developer knows, lets start thinking and building ahead of others to be a better defendant of nation

印度人喜欢看别人的发展故事而不是自己的发展故事。最近我们的tejas项目超支30倍以上。这个项目能给印度空军带来什么，天知

道。

Nirvikar Goel Goel (Ghaziabad) replies to Shaik
8 hrs ago (07:28 PM)
unless we design and make our own engine any such development will not be called indigenous development.we have

enough talent but who will use them only Americans, since it will be a big threat to the leader's earnings.


除非我们自己设计和制造发动机，否则任何发展都是盗窃的。我们有很多天才，但是他们都在美国发财呢，如果他们回来会影响我

们领导人发财的。

总结一下，印度能上网的人都是受过高等教育的人，所以评论中还是不少很理性的人的。也有比较偏执的，认为印度是最大的民主国家，什么都比专制的中国好。

另外一个报道的评论，这个相当的给力。
timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/china/China-takes-US-head-on-tests-stealth-jet-during-Gatess-visit/articleshow/7265480.cms

Mantis (Edwards AFB California USA)
44 mins ago (09:38 AM)
In a funk? - hardly. Another arms race is unnecessary, especially over a plane whose capabilities are untested. India is more likely to find its air space tested by the J-20 in the near future. The good ole USA will be there to watch your back - funk and all.

搞什么，又要开始军备竞赛？尤其是根据一架没有经过测试的飞机就开始军备竞赛。在不久的将来印度的国土防空可能会被J-20测试很多次。但是我们的盟友-美国-将会在帮我防守的。

To Mantis (Chennai) replies to Mantis
24 mins ago (09:58 AM)
Well said, the Indian indigenous designed T-50 will be there to counter the Chinese J-20. Even Russia will have to buy T-50 and other high tech items from India.

说的好！印度自主设计的T-50将是J-20可怕的对手。就连俄罗斯也要从印度购买T-50以及其他高科技物品。

--这俩个太给力了，这从哪里的出来的结论说T-50是印度自主设计的
:b

总结一下，印度能上网的人都是受过高等教育的人，所以评论中还是不少很理性的人的。也有比较偏执的，认为印度是最大的民主国家，什么都比专制的中国好。

另外一个报道的评论，这个相当的给力。
timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/china/China-takes-US-head-on-tests-stealth-jet-during-Gatess-visit/articleshow/7265480.cms

Mantis (Edwards AFB California USA)
44 mins ago (09:38 AM)
In a funk? - hardly. Another arms race is unnecessary, especially over a plane whose capabilities are untested. India is more likely to find its air space tested by the J-20 in the near future. The good ole USA will be there to watch your back - funk and all.

搞什么，又要开始军备竞赛？尤其是根据一架没有经过测试的飞机就开始军备竞赛。在不久的将来印度的国土防空可能会被J-20测试很多次。但是我们的盟友-美国-将会在帮我防守的。

To Mantis (Chennai) replies to Mantis
24 mins ago (09:58 AM)
Well said, the Indian indigenous designed T-50 will be there to counter the Chinese J-20. Even Russia will have to buy T-50 and other high tech items from India.

说的好！印度自主设计的T-50将是J-20可怕的对手。就连俄罗斯也要从印度购买T-50以及其他高科技物品。

--这俩个太给力了，这从哪里的出来的结论说T-50是印度自主设计的
:b

内容咧

把http/www去掉就可以发URL了。再说了，一个坑就行了。占这么多坑干嘛。

快上内容

请 继续  ^_^

继续，我看A3能有多欢乐

捞一分捞一分

第三个太搞了

占个位置

捞一分捞一分

翻译完了

目前的评论就这些

占位置

所谓的隐形战机根本就是一个放大版本的J10，然后涂上黑漆。这样就拉出来说是创新而且它根本就不隐形。中国在偷取西方技术

的上是臭名昭著的。很多的中国间谍都因为这个被抓起来了。这跟不久不是创新。这就像是根据Walmart提供的图纸生产产品然后

标上“中国制造”一样。J10简直就是一以色列战机的翻版，发动机还是用的俄罗斯的AL31fn涡扇。他们全是偷窃或者“借取”的技术
--此人典型的印度人想法

想一想，我们国家内部的“印度人”少吗？

我来捞分！！！

不会吧，印度连个“猫”都没得卖啊

Rapter replies to sahajpal
2 hrs ago (01:55 AM)
And India can make all these ? Where do you buy a DSL modem in India today ?! or any cell phones ? Talk about

India being the most innovative nation on earth, at lease make something even by copying.


另外印度制造了所有的零部件么？在印度，你在哪里买上网用的猫呢？或者手机。印度想成为最具有创新性的国家，先翻版一些东

西再说。

太二了

欢乐真不少

精神病人思路广，阿三思路也很宽。

连顶带捞

有些回复还是很理性的，虽然不同意其表达的观点，但看得出来那种态度还是比较诚恳的。

A3果然酸味十足

三哥V5

A3还是好好搞下基础建设，先把电力搞好吧

让三锅永远活在世界最大的民主制度下吧

回复 18# secsoft


猫这个东西，你没经历过一个ADSL猫1500块的年代吧？100不到一个猫也是在中国大量生产这个玩意，什么DLINK TPLINK 华为 实达，贝尔生产基地搬到中国以后才可能出现的事情啊！

三哥还是有明白人，但是在装糊涂

打一仗 发表于 2011-1-12 09:30


    深有同感。当年一个倍速光驱都要卖到1K多啊。

我有我自己的原则，
　　我不想一辈子被人踩在脚下，
　　你以为我是臭要饭的，
　　我忍了一百多年，
　　就是要等一个机会，
　　我要争一口气，
　　不是想证明我了不起；
　　我是要告诉人家，
　　我失去的东西一定要拿回来！

a3的lca开始列装部队了。不知道是不是受了刺激。

我们还是得说，印度的高种姓人中，还是有很多受教育水平高，有理性的精英（此精英非彼JY）；

酸水泛滥的阿三！:D

精蝇不分国界和国籍啊

那个国家都有明白人和傻瓜,

比例多少问题, 还有谁手握实权呢?

中国这样的人不少, 但幸运的是, 中共有点真材实学

lz辛苦，翻译的精彩，不过倒数第二条评论，把Italy翻译成印度了...

--将来是印度的，过去是韩国的
这个评论很给力呀