4月8号--萨留特老大:T4温度提高300多度, 叶片耐温超过 ...

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Yuri Eliseev: "Who will be responsible for the creation of the engine as a whole should not be resolved by voting"


Moscow. April 8. Airports - Competing on the technical issues should remain within the "Joint Engine Corporation (JDC), and who will be responsible for the creation of the engine as a whole should not be resolved by voting, said Director General of Federal State Unitary Enterprise" Moscow Machine Building Production Association "Salute" Yuri Eliseev at press conference on the forthcoming 11-th International Salon "Engines-2010".

He noted that the Federal State Unitary Enterprise "Scientific-Production Center of Gas Turbine" Salute "is actually already working, although de jure, its creation has not yet been completed. The completion of all procedures for establishing a center for gas turbines" Salute "will be held this year, we can assume that the formation of the center held no later than July.

Eliseev Yu recalled that in 2008 the volume of work performed MMPP Salyut was 11 billion rubles in 2009 - 16 billion rubles. In 2010, we expect the volume of work more than 20 billion rubles, "- he added.

A very important factor in the success of the enterprise Eliseev Yu believes factor financing of the enterprise from the state defense order (GOZ). He highlighted that MMPP Salyut was not only receive funds from the GOZ, but the Ministry of Defence conducts advance of forthcoming works. Through the implementation of the GOZ MMPP "Salut" from 2008 delivers upgraded engines AL-31FM1 for Su-27SM (one is already equipped with such air regiment of Su-27SM with engines AL-31FM1). Since 2011 is expected to supply the same engine for prospective multifunctional combat aircraft Su-34, as the decision was already taken. While the volume of supplies for the Russian air force relatively small, but they will grow.

Referring to the possible relocation of production MMPP Salyut Moscow, Yuri Eliseev said that the plant must remain in Moscow, but not as a batch plant, and as a developer of new designs, the creator of new technologies for creating, testing and developing new models of aircraft engines and transfer them into production to other plants. The need to stay in Moscow Design Bureau MMPP Salyut due to the proximity of virtually all industry-leading universities, which train specialists in everything necessary for the enterprise specialties. This is what might help an innovative way of development.

The presence of the structure MMPP Salyut Design Bureau has allowed his own company to significantly expand the scope of its activities. April 12 this year, KB MMPP Salyut was 11 years. "CB started with dozens of experts, but now has become a powerful creative team of like-minded strength of 1000 people, with unity of purpose, equipped with the latest technology", - said director general MMPP Salyut.

It is known that the Federal State Unitary Enterprise "Omsk Motor Association named. Baranova" in 2007, entered into an integrated structure MMPP Salyut. However, earlier Eliseev Yu noted that the "factory. Baranova in the Soviet time was about 28 thousand people, at the time of arrival MMPP Salyut at Omsk factory left 1300 people. MMPP Salyut plant provided them. Baranova orders and manufacturing equipment. Nevertheless, in recent years, the plant was in a very precarious position, almost predbankrotnom. Over the past three years, the factory in Omsk, revived, and the number of employees increased from 5 to 7 thousand people.

Yuri Eliseev briefly on the support of the Omsk plant. He said that the plant was about 3 billion of debt in the amount of work for 2009 to about 600 million rubles. "The plant was practically bankrupt," - he said. - It was therefore decided to allocate 1.75 billion rubles to pay debts to the budget and salaries. Today Omsk is the amount of work about 2 billion rubles. "

According to general director of the Salyut, the Omsk plant them. Baranova could carry out modernization multi-purpose light biplanes An-2 in a modern version of the AN-3 with the replacement piston engine turboprop-20, which is produced by the same company. Previously this work was carried out at Omsk on "Flight", but due to congestion of the enterprise, upgrade the AN-2 there was canceled. "Nevertheless, the small aircraft in Russia is practically no and An-3 could restore in some degree a small air force in the country. This issue must be resolved at government level, but MMPP Salyut is ready to plant them. Baranova master production of the An- 3, while necessary, a modest investment, "- said Yuri Eliseev.

Then he turned to the production of aircraft engines AL-31F and the development of the upgraded engines AL-31FM. "We are modernizing the serial aircraft engine AL-31F in order to remain on the market, because nobody had engines AL-31F model in 1984 do not need need more traction, improved reliability and service. Therefore, the CB MMPP Salyut have been some modifications, and in each of the modifications introduced elements of a fifth-generation engine. The engine in the modification of the AL-31FM3 with a three-stage compressor, compressor, nine-low and high pressure, with a new turbine and a short combustion chamber on the parameters are already close to the fifth generation, but it is not as the fifth generation is created individually, "- said Yuri Eiseev.

According to him, the modernized Su-27SM are on combat duty in 2007 with engines AL-31FM1, designed without a single penny from the state, from the state budget only at their own expense - to 2009 "Salute" are not getting budget money. The Su-34 was tested with the engines AL-31FM1, received a positive conclusion and decided to equip the Su-34 by the engine. "Unfortunately, the AL-31FM1 JSC Sukhoi Design Bureau has not yet signed the Terms of Reference. Only through the tough position of the Ministry of Defense engine AL-31FM1 got their start in life", - said Yuri Eliseev.

MMPP Salyut maintained a consistent upgrading of the AL-31F with a gradual build-up of new elements. On the stand being tested aircraft engine AL-31FM2 thrust 14520 kg. It will also be interchangeable with the AL-31F and AL-31FM1. "However, AL-31FM2 more than a year and not signed the Terms of Reference, despite the fact that there Conclusions CSRI-30 and CIAM. It speaks about the situation in the creation of new engines in the country" - with regret CEO.

According to him, on the order of aircraft engine of the third stage of modernization - AL-31FM3 with a thrust of about 15 mc. Later this year he will be tested on the stand.

Talking about the export of engines AL-31F, Eliseev Yu stressed that the company was developed by the AL-31FN engine for Chinese fighter J-10. "Already sold over 200 of these engines and only one has that justify the existence of the company his design office", - said director general.

Next Eliseev Yu stop at creating an engine for the fifth generation fighter. According to him, it was decided to divide the work into two phases. Initially there were two performers - "Salute" and "Saturn". As the engine of the second phase ("Yeniseisk-B)" Salute "fulfilled all the planned work in June 2009, received the Commission's opinion that the achieved performance to the world and the engine was recommended for development for the PAK FA. "I would say that the temperature of gases in the combustion chamber increased more than 300 degrees, creating new turbine blades that can withstand temperatures over 2000 degrees, the new low-pressure compressor, so we have done everything, and Saturn to date do not comply. Five times were going to sum up the competition, but they are not summed up today ", - said director general MMPP Salyut.

According to Yuri Eliseev, competition on technical issues should remain within the JDC, and who will be responsible for the creation of the engine as a whole should not be resolved by voting.

"Even in the third quarter of 2009 had to announce a development engine for the PAK FA. The MMPP Salyut is avanproekt engine and there is a decision CSRI-30 and CIAM. It has long been necessary to announce the creation of a new engine or even a gas generator. "Salute" ready by the end of this year to put a gas generator for bench tests and collect demonstrator engine in 2011, we believe that the engine for the PAK FA is almost a year we almost lost, "- said Yuri Eliseev.

He then commented briefly on other activities of the enterprise. Of great importance MMPP Salyut attaches to cooperation with the Ukrainian enterprises aeroengine - Zaporozhye Motor Sich "and motor CB" Progress ". Joint work with Ukrainian colleagues are already many years. Cooperation is implemented through the joint production of engines for D-436T1/TP Tu-334 and Be-200 engine A-436-148 for the AN-148 and its modifications, already on today in the production of A-436-149 MMPP " Salute serves approximately 30% of all the works, but with 2012 we can begin assembling and testing of the engine and the "Salute" in cooperation with the "Motor Sich". All the more work the company provides production program of military training aircraft Yak- 130 with the engines of the AI-222-25, there has been a sharp increase in work. Will MMPP "Salut" to participate in the development and manufacture of aircraft engine perspective PD-14, which is the leading developer of Permian Aviadvigatel.

According to Yuri Eliseev, an increasing share in the total amount of work the company will occupy the so-called ground-based component - development, production and maintenance of industrial land plants based on gas turbine engines. Today, the CHP-28 tests are 60-MW machine with an electric efficiency of more than 50%, and with a coefficient of fuel (including removal of heat), more than 90%. Salyut put two 27-MW power plant in the dace, three in Nigeria and four in Yamburg. Very promising activity in the area of industrial plants will be the creation and production of desalination plants, and some of them have already signed contracts to supply, such as Saudi Arabia, with Portugal.

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Yuri Eliseev: "Who will be responsible for the creation of the engine as a whole should not be resolved by voting"


Moscow. April 8. Airports - Competing on the technical issues should remain within the "Joint Engine Corporation (JDC), and who will be responsible for the creation of the engine as a whole should not be resolved by voting, said Director General of Federal State Unitary Enterprise" Moscow Machine Building Production Association "Salute" Yuri Eliseev at press conference on the forthcoming 11-th International Salon "Engines-2010".

He noted that the Federal State Unitary Enterprise "Scientific-Production Center of Gas Turbine" Salute "is actually already working, although de jure, its creation has not yet been completed. The completion of all procedures for establishing a center for gas turbines" Salute "will be held this year, we can assume that the formation of the center held no later than July.

Eliseev Yu recalled that in 2008 the volume of work performed MMPP Salyut was 11 billion rubles in 2009 - 16 billion rubles. In 2010, we expect the volume of work more than 20 billion rubles, "- he added.

A very important factor in the success of the enterprise Eliseev Yu believes factor financing of the enterprise from the state defense order (GOZ). He highlighted that MMPP Salyut was not only receive funds from the GOZ, but the Ministry of Defence conducts advance of forthcoming works. Through the implementation of the GOZ MMPP "Salut" from 2008 delivers upgraded engines AL-31FM1 for Su-27SM (one is already equipped with such air regiment of Su-27SM with engines AL-31FM1). Since 2011 is expected to supply the same engine for prospective multifunctional combat aircraft Su-34, as the decision was already taken. While the volume of supplies for the Russian air force relatively small, but they will grow.

Referring to the possible relocation of production MMPP Salyut Moscow, Yuri Eliseev said that the plant must remain in Moscow, but not as a batch plant, and as a developer of new designs, the creator of new technologies for creating, testing and developing new models of aircraft engines and transfer them into production to other plants. The need to stay in Moscow Design Bureau MMPP Salyut due to the proximity of virtually all industry-leading universities, which train specialists in everything necessary for the enterprise specialties. This is what might help an innovative way of development.

The presence of the structure MMPP Salyut Design Bureau has allowed his own company to significantly expand the scope of its activities. April 12 this year, KB MMPP Salyut was 11 years. "CB started with dozens of experts, but now has become a powerful creative team of like-minded strength of 1000 people, with unity of purpose, equipped with the latest technology", - said director general MMPP Salyut.

It is known that the Federal State Unitary Enterprise "Omsk Motor Association named. Baranova" in 2007, entered into an integrated structure MMPP Salyut. However, earlier Eliseev Yu noted that the "factory. Baranova in the Soviet time was about 28 thousand people, at the time of arrival MMPP Salyut at Omsk factory left 1300 people. MMPP Salyut plant provided them. Baranova orders and manufacturing equipment. Nevertheless, in recent years, the plant was in a very precarious position, almost predbankrotnom. Over the past three years, the factory in Omsk, revived, and the number of employees increased from 5 to 7 thousand people.

Yuri Eliseev briefly on the support of the Omsk plant. He said that the plant was about 3 billion of debt in the amount of work for 2009 to about 600 million rubles. "The plant was practically bankrupt," - he said. - It was therefore decided to allocate 1.75 billion rubles to pay debts to the budget and salaries. Today Omsk is the amount of work about 2 billion rubles. "

According to general director of the Salyut, the Omsk plant them. Baranova could carry out modernization multi-purpose light biplanes An-2 in a modern version of the AN-3 with the replacement piston engine turboprop-20, which is produced by the same company. Previously this work was carried out at Omsk on "Flight", but due to congestion of the enterprise, upgrade the AN-2 there was canceled. "Nevertheless, the small aircraft in Russia is practically no and An-3 could restore in some degree a small air force in the country. This issue must be resolved at government level, but MMPP Salyut is ready to plant them. Baranova master production of the An- 3, while necessary, a modest investment, "- said Yuri Eliseev.

Then he turned to the production of aircraft engines AL-31F and the development of the upgraded engines AL-31FM. "We are modernizing the serial aircraft engine AL-31F in order to remain on the market, because nobody had engines AL-31F model in 1984 do not need need more traction, improved reliability and service. Therefore, the CB MMPP Salyut have been some modifications, and in each of the modifications introduced elements of a fifth-generation engine. The engine in the modification of the AL-31FM3 with a three-stage compressor, compressor, nine-low and high pressure, with a new turbine and a short combustion chamber on the parameters are already close to the fifth generation, but it is not as the fifth generation is created individually, "- said Yuri Eiseev.

According to him, the modernized Su-27SM are on combat duty in 2007 with engines AL-31FM1, designed without a single penny from the state, from the state budget only at their own expense - to 2009 "Salute" are not getting budget money. The Su-34 was tested with the engines AL-31FM1, received a positive conclusion and decided to equip the Su-34 by the engine. "Unfortunately, the AL-31FM1 JSC Sukhoi Design Bureau has not yet signed the Terms of Reference. Only through the tough position of the Ministry of Defense engine AL-31FM1 got their start in life", - said Yuri Eliseev.

MMPP Salyut maintained a consistent upgrading of the AL-31F with a gradual build-up of new elements. On the stand being tested aircraft engine AL-31FM2 thrust 14520 kg. It will also be interchangeable with the AL-31F and AL-31FM1. "However, AL-31FM2 more than a year and not signed the Terms of Reference, despite the fact that there Conclusions CSRI-30 and CIAM. It speaks about the situation in the creation of new engines in the country" - with regret CEO.

According to him, on the order of aircraft engine of the third stage of modernization - AL-31FM3 with a thrust of about 15 mc. Later this year he will be tested on the stand.

Talking about the export of engines AL-31F, Eliseev Yu stressed that the company was developed by the AL-31FN engine for Chinese fighter J-10. "Already sold over 200 of these engines and only one has that justify the existence of the company his design office", - said director general.

Next Eliseev Yu stop at creating an engine for the fifth generation fighter. According to him, it was decided to divide the work into two phases. Initially there were two performers - "Salute" and "Saturn". As the engine of the second phase ("Yeniseisk-B)" Salute "fulfilled all the planned work in June 2009, received the Commission's opinion that the achieved performance to the world and the engine was recommended for development for the PAK FA. "I would say that the temperature of gases in the combustion chamber increased more than 300 degrees, creating new turbine blades that can withstand temperatures over 2000 degrees, the new low-pressure compressor, so we have done everything, and Saturn to date do not comply. Five times were going to sum up the competition, but they are not summed up today ", - said director general MMPP Salyut.

According to Yuri Eliseev, competition on technical issues should remain within the JDC, and who will be responsible for the creation of the engine as a whole should not be resolved by voting.

"Even in the third quarter of 2009 had to announce a development engine for the PAK FA. The MMPP Salyut is avanproekt engine and there is a decision CSRI-30 and CIAM. It has long been necessary to announce the creation of a new engine or even a gas generator. "Salute" ready by the end of this year to put a gas generator for bench tests and collect demonstrator engine in 2011, we believe that the engine for the PAK FA is almost a year we almost lost, "- said Yuri Eliseev.

He then commented briefly on other activities of the enterprise. Of great importance MMPP Salyut attaches to cooperation with the Ukrainian enterprises aeroengine - Zaporozhye Motor Sich "and motor CB" Progress ". Joint work with Ukrainian colleagues are already many years. Cooperation is implemented through the joint production of engines for D-436T1/TP Tu-334 and Be-200 engine A-436-148 for the AN-148 and its modifications, already on today in the production of A-436-149 MMPP " Salute serves approximately 30% of all the works, but with 2012 we can begin assembling and testing of the engine and the "Salute" in cooperation with the "Motor Sich". All the more work the company provides production program of military training aircraft Yak- 130 with the engines of the AI-222-25, there has been a sharp increase in work. Will MMPP "Salut" to participate in the development and manufacture of aircraft engine perspective PD-14, which is the leading developer of Permian Aviadvigatel.

According to Yuri Eliseev, an increasing share in the total amount of work the company will occupy the so-called ground-based component - development, production and maintenance of industrial land plants based on gas turbine engines. Today, the CHP-28 tests are 60-MW machine with an electric efficiency of more than 50%, and with a coefficient of fuel (including removal of heat), more than 90%. Salyut put two 27-MW power plant in the dace, three in Nigeria and four in Yamburg. Very promising activity in the area of industrial plants will be the creation and production of desalination plants, and some of them have already signed contracts to supply, such as Saudi Arabia, with Portugal.
叶片耐温超过2000度是多少度?是2999度还是3999度。:o


M1目前已经装备了一个团的27SM,

在Su-34上已经试验,反应良好, 现在空军没有用。 另外报道在2011开始上Su-34. 合约已经签了。


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M2, 空军没有签, 没有用。 14.5吨推力。  (显然土星的117S上了Su-35)

M3,  很多五代技术集成。

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According to him, the modernized Su-27SM are on combat duty in 2007 with engines AL-31FM1, designed without a single penny from the state, from the state budget only at their own expense - to 2009 "Salute" are not getting budget money. The Su-34 was tested with the engines AL-31FM1, received a positive conclusion and decided to equip the Su-34 by the engine. "Unfortunately, the AL-31FM1 JSC Sukhoi Design Bureau has not yet signed the Terms of Reference. Only through the tough position of the Ministry of Defense engine AL-31FM1 got their start in life", - said Yuri Eliseev.

MMPP Salyut maintained a consistent upgrading of the AL-31F with a gradual build-up of new elements. On the stand being tested aircraft engine AL-31FM2 thrust 14520 kg. It will also be interchangeable with the AL-31F and AL-31FM1. "However, AL-31FM2 more than a year and not signed the Terms of Reference, despite the fact that there Conclusions CSRI-30 and CIAM. It speaks about the situation in the creation of new engines in the country" - with regret CEO.

M1目前已经装备了一个团的27SM,

在Su-34上已经试验,反应良好, 现在空军没有用。 另外报道在2011开始上Su-34. 合约已经签了。


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M2, 空军没有签, 没有用。 14.5吨推力。  (显然土星的117S上了Su-35)

M3,  很多五代技术集成。

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According to him, the modernized Su-27SM are on combat duty in 2007 with engines AL-31FM1, designed without a single penny from the state, from the state budget only at their own expense - to 2009 "Salute" are not getting budget money. The Su-34 was tested with the engines AL-31FM1, received a positive conclusion and decided to equip the Su-34 by the engine. "Unfortunately, the AL-31FM1 JSC Sukhoi Design Bureau has not yet signed the Terms of Reference. Only through the tough position of the Ministry of Defense engine AL-31FM1 got their start in life", - said Yuri Eliseev.

MMPP Salyut maintained a consistent upgrading of the AL-31F with a gradual build-up of new elements. On the stand being tested aircraft engine AL-31FM2 thrust 14520 kg. It will also be interchangeable with the AL-31F and AL-31FM1. "However, AL-31FM2 more than a year and not signed the Terms of Reference, despite the fact that there Conclusions CSRI-30 and CIAM. It speaks about the situation in the creation of new engines in the country" - with regret CEO.
前牌留名啊,看不痛啊,T4是什么材料搞的啊?
2000K吧?2000摄氏度不可能吧
2000度以上,至少有2273K,如果是真的话就太强大了
回复 4# 中国湘军


    T4指涡轮前温度
毛子的发动机还得看看寿命
the temperature of gases in the combustion chamber increased more than 300 degrees, creating new turbine blades that can withstand temperatures over 2000 degrees, the new low-pressure compressor, so we have done everything, and Saturn to date do not comply.

Five times were going to sum up the competition, but they are not summed up today ", - said director general MMPP Salyut.
看毛子的发动机寿命就知道他的指标好假.....火星人都知道的
这个也就看看而已不能当真
看多久出样机。

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It has long been necessary to announce the creation of a new engine or even a gas generator. "Salute" ready by the end of this year to put a gas generator for bench tests and collect demonstrator engine in 2011, we believe that the engine for the PAK FA is almost a year we almost lost, "- said Yuri Eliseev.
啥时让咱也山寨一个
毛子还是厉害、
等M2都望眼欲穿了,啥时候能定型呀,如果再过2年不出,只要扇子15前期顺利,估计TB是铁定不会再要的了。
2000K-273=1727℃
在MD面前,毛子发动机的寿命就是个渣!
毛子威武!
不知道太行是几度?
毛子还是厉害!