超级军网给三哥翻个案
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老是说三哥胜的不威风,但是请看:
Many of us were quite surprised when the stories first surfaced about the Indian Air Force (IAF) defeating the USAF F-15C's in a exersize. Some of you gloated about the USAF's cumuppance, while other (Me included) felt that it was a ploy for the USAF to make the case that it needed more F-22 Raptors. We know know that the deck was so stacked in the IAF's favor the F-15C's had no way of winning.
The details of the exersize have been revealed in this weeks AWST. Some of the salient points:
The 6 F-15C's were not equiped with the newest ESRA radar system that has 100 mile range
三哥的Su-30K也没有PESA
The IAF had a numerical advantage of 18 to 6
这句话是对的,但是真正参加空战的三哥们没有18架,18架中至少有4架MIG-27没有参加空战,还有大概6架MiG-21Bison进行护航,同样没有参加空战,参加空战的只有6-8架的Su-30K和Mirage-2000H的混编部队
The F-15's had a 20 mile restriction placed on thier AIM-120's and they had to keep illuminating the target when fired rather than use them in a fire and forget mode.
20NM 比AIM-120的不可逃逸空间只少一点,而且不能确保AIM-120确实是AIM-120C
The IAF had the use of a simulated AWACS plane (An-32 Cline)
这架模拟用做预警飞机当然做不到A-50的效果
The USAF pilots were very impressed by the tactics the IAF used and how they were able to mix it up instead of using inflexable Soviet era tactics The IAF used a mixed fleet including Mig-21's and Mirage 2000's.
证实了上面的说法
The IAF did not use the newer Su-30MKI's instead used thier Su-30's equiped with AA-11's and AA-12's. The AA-12 gave the F-15 pilots the most problems as they did not know when they were being illuminated.
三哥的飞机不是Su-30MKI,但是上面的说法有错,Su-30K没有挂载R-77(AA-12)的能力.倒是幻影2000N可以发射MICA
The complete story is here, but you have to be a subscriber to AWST.
Cope India老是说三哥胜的不威风,但是请看:
Many of us were quite surprised when the stories first surfaced about the Indian Air Force (IAF) defeating the USAF F-15C's in a exersize. Some of you gloated about the USAF's cumuppance, while other (Me included) felt that it was a ploy for the USAF to make the case that it needed more F-22 Raptors. We know know that the deck was so stacked in the IAF's favor the F-15C's had no way of winning.
The details of the exersize have been revealed in this weeks AWST. Some of the salient points:
The 6 F-15C's were not equiped with the newest ESRA radar system that has 100 mile range
三哥的Su-30K也没有PESA
The IAF had a numerical advantage of 18 to 6
这句话是对的,但是真正参加空战的三哥们没有18架,18架中至少有4架MIG-27没有参加空战,还有大概6架MiG-21Bison进行护航,同样没有参加空战,参加空战的只有6-8架的Su-30K和Mirage-2000H的混编部队
The F-15's had a 20 mile restriction placed on thier AIM-120's and they had to keep illuminating the target when fired rather than use them in a fire and forget mode.
20NM 比AIM-120的不可逃逸空间只少一点,而且不能确保AIM-120确实是AIM-120C
The IAF had the use of a simulated AWACS plane (An-32 Cline)
这架模拟用做预警飞机当然做不到A-50的效果
The USAF pilots were very impressed by the tactics the IAF used and how they were able to mix it up instead of using inflexable Soviet era tactics The IAF used a mixed fleet including Mig-21's and Mirage 2000's.
证实了上面的说法
The IAF did not use the newer Su-30MKI's instead used thier Su-30's equiped with AA-11's and AA-12's. The AA-12 gave the F-15 pilots the most problems as they did not know when they were being illuminated.
三哥的飞机不是Su-30MKI,但是上面的说法有错,Su-30K没有挂载R-77(AA-12)的能力.倒是幻影2000N可以发射MICA
The complete story is here, but you have to be a subscriber to AWST.
Cope India
Many of us were quite surprised when the stories first surfaced about the Indian Air Force (IAF) defeating the USAF F-15C's in a exersize. Some of you gloated about the USAF's cumuppance, while other (Me included) felt that it was a ploy for the USAF to make the case that it needed more F-22 Raptors. We know know that the deck was so stacked in the IAF's favor the F-15C's had no way of winning.
The details of the exersize have been revealed in this weeks AWST. Some of the salient points:
The 6 F-15C's were not equiped with the newest ESRA radar system that has 100 mile range
三哥的Su-30K也没有PESA
The IAF had a numerical advantage of 18 to 6
这句话是对的,但是真正参加空战的三哥们没有18架,18架中至少有4架MIG-27没有参加空战,还有大概6架MiG-21Bison进行护航,同样没有参加空战,参加空战的只有6-8架的Su-30K和Mirage-2000H的混编部队
The F-15's had a 20 mile restriction placed on thier AIM-120's and they had to keep illuminating the target when fired rather than use them in a fire and forget mode.
20NM 比AIM-120的不可逃逸空间只少一点,而且不能确保AIM-120确实是AIM-120C
The IAF had the use of a simulated AWACS plane (An-32 Cline)
这架模拟用做预警飞机当然做不到A-50的效果
The USAF pilots were very impressed by the tactics the IAF used and how they were able to mix it up instead of using inflexable Soviet era tactics The IAF used a mixed fleet including Mig-21's and Mirage 2000's.
证实了上面的说法
The IAF did not use the newer Su-30MKI's instead used thier Su-30's equiped with AA-11's and AA-12's. The AA-12 gave the F-15 pilots the most problems as they did not know when they were being illuminated.
三哥的飞机不是Su-30MKI,但是上面的说法有错,Su-30K没有挂载R-77(AA-12)的能力.倒是幻影2000N可以发射MICA
The complete story is here, but you have to be a subscriber to AWST.
Cope India老是说三哥胜的不威风,但是请看:
Many of us were quite surprised when the stories first surfaced about the Indian Air Force (IAF) defeating the USAF F-15C's in a exersize. Some of you gloated about the USAF's cumuppance, while other (Me included) felt that it was a ploy for the USAF to make the case that it needed more F-22 Raptors. We know know that the deck was so stacked in the IAF's favor the F-15C's had no way of winning.
The details of the exersize have been revealed in this weeks AWST. Some of the salient points:
The 6 F-15C's were not equiped with the newest ESRA radar system that has 100 mile range
三哥的Su-30K也没有PESA
The IAF had a numerical advantage of 18 to 6
这句话是对的,但是真正参加空战的三哥们没有18架,18架中至少有4架MIG-27没有参加空战,还有大概6架MiG-21Bison进行护航,同样没有参加空战,参加空战的只有6-8架的Su-30K和Mirage-2000H的混编部队
The F-15's had a 20 mile restriction placed on thier AIM-120's and they had to keep illuminating the target when fired rather than use them in a fire and forget mode.
20NM 比AIM-120的不可逃逸空间只少一点,而且不能确保AIM-120确实是AIM-120C
The IAF had the use of a simulated AWACS plane (An-32 Cline)
这架模拟用做预警飞机当然做不到A-50的效果
The USAF pilots were very impressed by the tactics the IAF used and how they were able to mix it up instead of using inflexable Soviet era tactics The IAF used a mixed fleet including Mig-21's and Mirage 2000's.
证实了上面的说法
The IAF did not use the newer Su-30MKI's instead used thier Su-30's equiped with AA-11's and AA-12's. The AA-12 gave the F-15 pilots the most problems as they did not know when they were being illuminated.
三哥的飞机不是Su-30MKI,但是上面的说法有错,Su-30K没有挂载R-77(AA-12)的能力.倒是幻影2000N可以发射MICA
The complete story is here, but you have to be a subscriber to AWST.
Cope India
可以消灭次0回复么? 就一回
消灭无地板房间
弱弱的问一句,这是说红旗演习么?
上次汉斯那帖子呢？
那又如何？
演习=实战？过去我们老是搞红军必胜呢。
天天掉飞机，真的能上战场？
exiaoyu 发表于 2010-3-5 01:05 
不是红旗是2005或者是 2006
不是红旗是2005或者是 2006
he743 发表于 2010-3-5 08:47
2000年后从没掉过飞机的朝鲜人民军陆军航空兵发来贺电。。。。
2000年后从没掉过飞机的朝鲜人民军陆军航空兵发来贺电。。。。
这个事情，水分太多，真相掩盖在底下。。。。
做事之前先给个结论，结果不是张狂自大就是怯懦自卑。
印度购买过米卡导弹么？{:yi:}
三哥没输？
兵疯机狂 发表于 2010-3-5 14:54
MD大败。。。
MD大败。。。
来源？连个链接都没有？
侧面印证MKI是鸡肋。。。
malganis 发表于 2010-3-5 17:00
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread85895/pg1
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread85895/pg1
ifoundyou 发表于 2010-3-5 17:01
http://bbs.cjdby.net/thread-875495-1-1.html
还是么？
http://bbs.cjdby.net/thread-875495-1-1.html
还是么？
不乱发言 还是看高人解说吧 学习ING
训练好坏当然直接影响到战时的伤亡率，但PLAAF的战力恐怕也不会弱到哪里去。
在战争中飞行员们能更快成长起来，尤其对于中国这样的大国来说，因此，短时间内的战争损耗是打不垮PLAAF的，以上仅针对大规模战争而言。
在战争中飞行员们能更快成长起来，尤其对于中国这样的大国来说，因此，短时间内的战争损耗是打不垮PLAAF的，以上仅针对大规模战争而言。
天天掉飞机，真的能上战场？
gly001 发表于 2010-3-5 21:22
人家用的不是烧火棍
人家用的不是烧火棍
人家能够参加这种演习也是一种锻炼
they had to keep illuminating the target when fired rather than use them in a fire and forget mode.
20NM 比AIM-120的不可逃逸空间只少一点,而且不能确保AIM-120确实是AIM-120C
红字部分你咋就不翻译不解释了呢？
20NM 比AIM-120的不可逃逸空间只少一点,而且不能确保AIM-120确实是AIM-120C
红字部分你咋就不翻译不解释了呢？
MD的目的是向元老院要钱，这都看不出来。{:chan:}
楼主找喷
天天掉飞机，真的能上战场
三哥能打米卡？
坛里面有一贴，意为三次对抗，LZ可以看看。
PS，是在不看好三锅的MKI
PS，是在不看好三锅的MKI
赢不了三锅只能说是杯具中的战斗杯具