美承认以色列为核大国 称台湾也可“有核”

称台湾也可“有核”??米帝开始叫牌喽~TG你想让WW没有核不??给我米帝点好处吧......;P ;P
空手套白狼的老戏码:D :D

这种戏咱们比美国好演的多。
伊朗升起蘑菇云，沙特公布核计划，利比亚重归不民主，小巴导弹出南亚。。。。。。

如果台湾在回归之前拥有了核武器，TG领导层都应该跳楼以谢国人。

台湾是中国的一个省,中国是核大国,作为一个省的台湾,中国当然可以在上面部署核武器.

台湾有核，美国也不愿意看到

原帖由 jumin 于 2009-3-9 20:43 发表
台湾有核，美国也不愿意看到

没看出来它为什么不愿意看到！偶感觉美国最多不愿意看到WW公开拥有核武器而已！

如果台湾研究核武器，那就只有先打过去了。

弯弯真要弄出蛋来 不长草可以光明正大了
可真是中华民族之大幸
我马上改口称同胞 那怕是绿毛都可以

台湾有核也遏制不了中国，只会引起中国激烈反应，美国应该很清楚这点。

这是奥巴马政府对華政策的初步显露。除了狗急跳墙，他现在别無他法。

欢迎台湾加入“有核”行列，核平统一指日可待。

不能再让中国周边的国家和地区再拥核了，不然中国就坐在“核弹：堆上了



世界上哪个大国是被有核国家包围最多的国家--------------中国


数一数，俄罗斯，印度，巴基斯坦，朝鲜

日本可以算一个准拥核国家了，  韩国入门也不是很难


中国的战略环境可以说是最糟糕的一个，与多数邻国都有领土纠葛，如果这些国家再拥核的话……



;funk ;funk

美国最不希望日本有核吧

[:a11:] 那我们只有退出核不扩散条约了

古巴政府完全合适成为有核国家！

委内瑞拉政府完全合适成为准涉核国家！

原帖由 尖端 于 2009-3-9 20:51 发表

没看出来它为什么不愿意看到！偶感觉美国最多不愿意看到WW公开拥有核武器而已！

       看看李登辉的回忆录，当年中央研究院在蒋介石命令下研制核武器，是谁给设施封闭，仪器搬走的。

这个消息的真实性？
无论韩国还是台湾，美帝在核问题上立场基本和tg是一致的

环球网引述俄罗斯“特别媒体”网报道，以色列光标新闻网报道称:D

美国已经承认朝鲜为核大国...........

原帖由 momoyo 于 2009-3-10 10:21 发表
这个消息的真实性？
无论韩国还是台湾，美帝在核问题上立场基本和tg是一致的

英文好的自己看吧。环球的翻译水平不怎么样。
U.S. Army document describes Israel as 'a nuclear power'
By Amir Oren
Tags: nuclear, U.S., Israel

In a rare breach of official American adherence to Israel's policy of nuclear ambiguity, the U.S. military is terming Israel "a nuclear power" on a par with Russia, China, India, Pakistan and North Korea, all of which have declared their nuclear weapon status, and ahead of "nuclear threshold powers" Japan, South Korea and Taiwan, and the "emerging" Iran.

The reference to Israel as a nuclear power is contained in a document published late last year by the U.S. Joint Forces Command (JFCOM), the Norfolk, Virginia-based headquarters in charge of preparing American forces for their military missions worldwide, including in Iraq and Afghanistan. JFCOM's chief, U.S. Marine Corps Four-Star General James Mattis, also heads NATO's Allied Command Transformation.

Israel's nuclear program is rarely, if ever, explicitly mentioned in public, unclassified U.S. official documents. Classified assessments are usually published only years later, in response to Freedom of Information requests, in former officials' recollections or as part of historical research. It is virtually unheard of for a senior military commander, while in office, to refer to Israel's nuclear status.
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In December 2006, during his confirmation hearings as Secretary of Defense, Robert Gates referred to Israel as one of the powers seen by Iran as surrounding it with nuclear weapons. But once in office, Gates refused to repeat this allusion to Israel, noting that when he used it he was "a private citizen."

JFCOM's "Joint Operating Environment" (JOE) document, with a forward by Mattis and drafted by a team of officers and civilians he selected, was signed in mid-November 2008 and posted on the Pentagon's Web site. It has generated protests by the governments of Mexico - whose potential collapse is depicted as a grave threat to U.S. national security - and South Korea, which resented the reference to North Korea as a nuclear power. Following the Korean controversy, JFCOM issued a clarification, noting that this reference does not reflect U.S. government policy, which has vowed never to accept North Korea as a nuclear power.

Asian arsenals

Regarding Israel, the JOE document warns of the danger of nuclear exchanges between countries in and around Asia. It notes that India and Pakistan have nuclear arsenals and delivery systems, that North Korea has tested a nuclear weapon and has enough fissile material to produce more nuclear weapons, and that Iran is "driving forward aggressively" toward its nuclear goals, unchecked by the international community's "confused reaction." This could serve as a proliferation incentive for other countries, the document warns.

"In effect," the document continues, "there is a growing arc of nuclear powers running from Israel in the west through an emerging Iran to Pakistan, India and on to China, North Korea and Russia in the east. Unfortunately, that nuclear arc coincides with areas of considerable instability [which] are of enormous interest to the United States."

General Mattis, a tough, thinking marine with several friends in the Israel Defense Forces, including a former military college classmate (retired Major-General Shai Avital, a former commanding officer of the Sayeret Matkal commando unit), conferred with Chief of Staff Gabi Ashkenazi in NATO's Brussels headquarters last November, within days of signing the JOE document.

Mattis condemned the U.S. Air Force's "Effects Based Operations" approach to warfare, as employed by the IDF in the Second Lebanon War of 2006, citing lessons learned reported by IDF officers "in a very blunt way," as he recalled in a Washington speech last month. He praised the courage shown by Israeli soldiers, but noted that being brave is not enough to stop a rocket-propelled grenade.

中文翻译简直胡说八道。:D :D

怕什么 怕什么 核武器这玩意不但比的是打人 还得比能挨打。 英。国有核可是他们能挨打么？能跟中美俄叫板么？
核武器根本不是小国能玩的起的 就以色列那样能挨几下?

原帖由 momoyo 于 2009-3-10 10:21 发表
这个消息的真实性？
无论韩国还是台湾，美帝在核问题上立场基本和tg是一致的

一致？何来一致？


美国的国家利益是第一位的，符合他的利益，就可以一致，不符合，他的政策就可以随时改


美国的行为是为他的国家利益服务的

老米想吓唬TG呢。。。不过要真的玩起来，还不知道是谁吓谁呢。。:D

以色列自不用说，的确是核大国，不过把台湾扯进来就有点扯了。:L

没有美国的阻止，恐怕台湾早已是有核地区了，不过目前台湾自己不会搞，世界大国也不会同意其搞，所以嘛，说台湾要有核只能是瞎扯。;P

如果瞎扯谁不会，:@ 日本现成的钚就能造上千颗核弹，可以说超过中法英之和，但到时候看美国佬还能否睡的着觉:D ;P

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原帖由 dzhiqiong 于 2009-3-10 10:51 发表

英文好的自己看吧。环球的翻译水平不怎么样。
U.S. Army document describes Israel as 'a nuclear power'
By Amir Oren
Tags: nuclear, U.S., Israel

In a rare breach of official American adherence to ...

这中文谁翻的，断章取义

我记得，过去WW自己要研究核武器，结果老美自己竟然派出特种兵将其摧毁，浇上混凝土。

原帖由 momoyo 于 2009-3-10 21:12 发表

如果台湾韩国核武化，美国对韩国台湾的控制是加强了还是削弱了？美国在东亚的发言权是变大了还是减弱了？美国卷入战争的风险是变小了还是变大了？
东亚无核化是符合中美两国利益的，这有什么问题？

美国放手以色列拥有核武器，它对以色列的控制能力削弱了么？美国在中东的发言权是变大了还是减弱了？

美国人有种把核武器弄到台湾，那我们中国人就绝对有种将核武器弄到墨西哥、古巴、委内瑞拉.......。

原帖由 海盗大统领 于 2009-3-10 22:04 发表




美国放手以色列拥有核武器，它对以色列的控制能力削弱了么？美国在中东的发言权是变大了还是减弱了？

如果你足够了解美国政治就不会说这种无知的话
另外这个话题没有意义讨论下去了，这中文新闻翻译的完全是在曲解原文的意思，ahead of "nuclear threshold powers可以故意翻译成美国允许台湾有核，很无聊。

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