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是骗人的
是骗人的
原帖由 500miles 于 2008-4-13 18:20 发表
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是骗人的
网上流传的东西太多，虽然我也无法确定真假。
但那个贴里的证伪简直扯淡。为证伪而证伪。
估计也没有人能够拿出原件的。真假很难确定。看看就可以了。不要过于纠缠这些了，当个笑话也不妨。关键还是靠自己多思考，掌握分辨能力。
但那个证伪过程绝对是扯淡。
但那个证伪过程绝对是扯淡。
网络粪青编造的无耻谎言
http://www.snopes.com/language/document/commrule.asp
已经被证实是谣言，用来打击我们爱国群众的／。。
Origins: A time-honored ploy in the political arena has been to discredit your opponents (and their ideas) by demonizing them, by associating them with ... well, demons. In the twentieth century, this has usually meant claiming that the ideas your opponents advocate were implemented by Nazis or Communists, or were recognized by them as means of "softening up" a country and making it ripe for totalitarian takeover. So, for example, if you believe the film industry should be more heavily regulated to prevent it from corrupting our youth, just point to this document and proclaim that the Communists came to power in Russia because the previous government had allowed callow youth to idle away their time watching "immoral movies."
As shown in the example above, this document is usually claimed to have been discovered "in May 1919 at Dusseldorf, Germany, by allied forces" and "first printed in the United States" in the Bartlesville, Oklahoma Examiner-Enterprise. Although the Examiner-Enterprise is a real newspaper, none of this rings true. Language about getting the young "interested in sex" and focusing their attention on "sexy books" and fretting about the "registration of all firearms" sound out of place for 1919, and even if this document really had been found in 1919, it's unlikely Americans would have considered it alarming back then, when the German hun was still a much bigger bogeyman than the Russian communist. And not surprisingly, nobody has ever managed to turn up the mysterious issue of Examiner-Enterprise that supposedly printed it. When columnist Bob Greene checked out this piece with Russian specialists at the University of Chicago and Northwestern University in the mid-1980s, they said the list was "a total fraud," "an obvious fabrication," and "an implausible concoction of American fears and phobias." (Greene also wrote: "I always wanted to meet a communist who was carrying the list around, so I could ask him what 'obloquy' means.")
When The New York Times ran an article on this piece way back in 1970, it had already been circulating for about twenty-five years. The Times reported that neither the National Archives, the Library of Congress, nor university libraries had a copy of any such document. When Montana senator Lee Metcalf looked into the issue back then, he checked with the FBI, CIA, and the Senate Internal Security Subcommittee; found that "exhaustive research" had proved the rules to be "completely spurious"; and noted that "the extreme right also follows rules, one of which is to make maximum use of false, misleading and fear-inspiring quotations."
Nonetheless, numerous Congressional members received copies of the rules list from alarmed constituents and, believing that nobody else was yet aware of them, continued to insert them into the Congressional Record.
The earliest known publication of these rules was in the periodical Moral Re-Armament in February 1946, and circulation of the list really took off after Florida state attorney George A. Brautigam endorsed them as true in 1954. (His "punishment" was that for many years afterward, printed versions of this list included his statement and signature appended at the bottom.) Even though the Soviet Union has since ceased to be, well into the 1990s the "Communist Rules for Revolution" have continued to be cited in newspaper editorials and letters to the editor as proof of our moral and political decay. As folklorist Jan Harold Brunvand wrote:
The rules have to do with dividing people into hostile groups, encouraging government extravagance, and fomenting "unnecessary" strikes in vital industries. What we have lost, the list suggests, is a world without dissent, budget deficits, inflation and labor unrest.
I just can't remember any such Golden Age.
As shown in the example above, this document is usually claimed to have been discovered "in May 1919 at Dusseldorf, Germany, by allied forces" and "first printed in the United States" in the Bartlesville, Oklahoma Examiner-Enterprise. Although the Examiner-Enterprise is a real newspaper, none of this rings true. Language about getting the young "interested in sex" and focusing their attention on "sexy books" and fretting about the "registration of all firearms" sound out of place for 1919, and even if this document really had been found in 1919, it's unlikely Americans would have considered it alarming back then, when the German hun was still a much bigger bogeyman than the Russian communist. And not surprisingly, nobody has ever managed to turn up the mysterious issue of Examiner-Enterprise that supposedly printed it. When columnist Bob Greene checked out this piece with Russian specialists at the University of Chicago and Northwestern University in the mid-1980s, they said the list was "a total fraud," "an obvious fabrication," and "an implausible concoction of American fears and phobias." (Greene also wrote: "I always wanted to meet a communist who was carrying the list around, so I could ask him what 'obloquy' means.")
When The New York Times ran an article on this piece way back in 1970, it had already been circulating for about twenty-five years. The Times reported that neither the National Archives, the Library of Congress, nor university libraries had a copy of any such document. When Montana senator Lee Metcalf looked into the issue back then, he checked with the FBI, CIA, and the Senate Internal Security Subcommittee; found that "exhaustive research" had proved the rules to be "completely spurious"; and noted that "the extreme right also follows rules, one of which is to make maximum use of false, misleading and fear-inspiring quotations."
Nonetheless, numerous Congressional members received copies of the rules list from alarmed constituents and, believing that nobody else was yet aware of them, continued to insert them into the Congressional Record.
The earliest known publication of these rules was in the periodical Moral Re-Armament in February 1946, and circulation of the list really took off after Florida state attorney George A. Brautigam endorsed them as true in 1954. (His "punishment" was that for many years afterward, printed versions of this list included his statement and signature appended at the bottom.) Even though the Soviet Union has since ceased to be, well into the 1990s the "Communist Rules for Revolution" have continued to be cited in newspaper editorials and letters to the editor as proof of our moral and political decay. As folklorist Jan Harold Brunvand wrote:
The rules have to do with dividing people into hostile groups, encouraging government extravagance, and fomenting "unnecessary" strikes in vital industries. What we have lost, the list suggests, is a world without dissent, budget deficits, inflation and labor unrest.
I just can't remember any such Golden Age.
>>>武装台湾，武装藏独，甚至对阿三这坨扶不上墙的烂泥巴还一直扶。老米一直都是这么干的。
原帖由 G6-52L 于 2008-4-13 20:25 发表
网络粪青编造的无耻谎言
G6-52L：
汝实在是太不够意思鸟，汝不见现在肉价贵的吓人，俺身为爱狗人士，天天都省下骨头来喂你，你不知感恩也就算鸟，奈何勾结某板猪，将俺给的骨头随地乱丢？汝难道不知，乱丢杂物是不好地，就是砸不到小朋友，砸到了花花草草，可叫你家主人如何交待？要知道，现在治安管理体例有规定，犬只造成的损失，要其主人全权赔偿啊
至于你多次提到的KC问题，俺经过实地调研发现，狗确实是穿KC的，之前俺总说你不穿KC，在此俺郑重向你道歉，望你海涵哈。不过俺还发现，MS这街上的狗都穿HKC啊，只有你一只整天晾自己的BKC，做狗做到你这个分上，实在是太有性格鸟，俺要跟你主人交流一下经验
还有，你与其到处随地大小便，不如老老实实地舔俺赏给你的骨头，窃以为，这比你动辄躲在某板猪地裤裆里SY，顺便舔人家的LP（如果人家有的话）有前途得多，你的明白？
无聊人意淫产品。
已经证明是茅坑党的杰作好多年了。
不管有没有具体文件，西方这样干的的确是事实。不论是茅坑党总结的，还是CIA总结的。
不论因果关系怎么样，反正公鸡一叫太阳就升起来的确是事实。不论是神棍总结的，还是骗子总结的。
原帖由 彦道 于 2008-4-13 21:06 发表
早年有DX称JC已经成为WT攻占的最大一个中文BBS，俺一头雾水。及至看到这个“十条诫命”，某些东些才逐渐清晰起来。
且不说原件，睁开眼睛看看现实就知道“对方”一直都是这么干的。
本菜不才，斗胆作个注脚。
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果然又是一个连马桶堵了都能怪到CIA头上的马甲
美国中央情报局的“中国十诫”
美国信教的人很多，如果真是美国人写的，不会将“宗教”和“迷信”搁在一起说，这倒更像是我们自己人说的话。
不过它的原型来自国外。“中国十诫”的英语原型是这样的：
1. Corrupt the young; get them away from religion. Get them interested in sex. Make them superficial; destroy their ruggedness.
一、败坏年青人，让他们远离宗教，沉溺于色情，变得肤浅，不再朴实。
2. Get control of all means of publicity, thereby:
二、控制所有宣传手段，以此：
3. Get people's minds off their government by focusing their attention on athletics, sexy books, plays and immoral movies.
三、通过使人民的注意力集中在体育、色情书籍以及表演和无廉耻的电影上，让人民的思想远离政府。
4. Divide the people into hostile groups by constantly harping on controversial matters of no importance.
四、经常性地对不重要的有争议事物煽风点火，将人民分裂为互相仇视的群体。
5. Destroy the people's faith in their natural leaders by holding the latter up to contempt, ridicule and disgrace.
五、通过对自然领袖的蔑视、嘲弄与羞辱毁坏人民对其的信任。
6. Always preach true democracy, but seize power as fast and as ruthlessly as possible.
六、不停宣扬“真正的民主”，但是尽量快速与无情地夺取权力。
7. By encouraging government extravagance, destroy its credit, produce years of inflation with rising prices and general discontent.
七、通过鼓励政府铺张浪费毁坏其信用，造成物价上涨，通货膨胀和普遍的不满。
8. Incite unnecessary strikes in vital industries, encourage civil disorders and foster a lenient and soft attitude on the part of government toward such disorders.
八、在重要产业部分煽动不必要的罢工，鼓励社会动乱，造成政府对于动乱的放纵与软弱态度。
9. Cause breakdown of the old moral values - honesty, sobriety, self-restraint, faith in the pledged word, ruggedness.
九、造成旧道德--诚实、节制、自律、终于誓言与朴实--的崩溃。
10. Cause the registration of all firearms on some pretext, with a view to confiscate them and leaving the populace helpless.
十、以某种借口对所有枪械进行登记，以便某一日全部充公，使人民无以聊赖。
传说，这十条是协约国于1919年五月在德国杜塞尔多夫搜出来的“共产党革命章程”！这个“十诫”目前知道的最早发表年份是1946年。1954年，佛罗里达州司法部长George A. Brautigam证明其为真实，并签上了大名。这十诫广为流传，选民们出于警惕性或者绷得倍儿紧的阶级斗争之弦，把这十条印出来发给议员们。八十年代中期，芝加哥大学与西北大学两位俄国问题专家认定，这十条章程是彻头彻尾的伪造。
可以看出来，这十条体现了某些保守的美国人对于一系列社会变化的担忧，并且疑心病作祟，把这些变化归于“共产党渗透”，比如色情泛滥，传统道德崩溃，宗教失去吸引力，社会动荡，甚至很有美国特色的对枪械管制的恐惧。找一个敌人来指责，是很轻松的办法。把对自己观点持不同意见者，比如反对宗教，提倡对枪械进行管制，批评政府的人暗示为受共产党影响的人，好处就不止是道义优势那么一点点了。
详见：http://www.snopes.com/language/document/commrule.asp引用:
美国中央情报局从五十年代开始，就有一个相当机密的针对共产党中国的“十条诫令”，或者说是十大工作计划。它们是：
一、尽量用物质来引诱和败坏他们的青年，鼓励他们藐视、鄙视，进一步公开反对他们原来所受的思想教育，特别是共产主义教条。替他们制造对色情奔放的兴趣和机会，再鼓励他们进行性滥交。让他们不以肤浅、虚荣为羞耻。一定要毁掉他们强调过的刻苦耐劳精神。
二、一定要尽一切可能，做好宣传工作，包括电影、书籍、电视、无线电波……核心是宗教传布。只要他们向往我们的衣、食、住、行、娱乐和教育的方式，就是成功的一半。
三、一定要把他们的青年的注意力从他们以政府为中心的传统引开来。让他们的头脑集中于体育表演、色情书籍、享乐、游戏、犯罪性的电影，以及宗教迷信。
四、时常制造一些无风三尺浪的无事之事，让他们的人民公开讨论。这样就在他们的潜意识中种下了分裂的因子。特别要在他们的少数民族里找好机会，分裂他们的地区，分裂他们的民族，分裂他们的感情，在他们之间制造新仇旧恨，这是完全不能忽视的策略。
五、要不断地制造“新闻”，丑化他们的领导。我们的记者应该找机会采访他们，然后组织他们自己的言词来攻击他们自己。
六、在任何情况下都要传扬民主。一有机会，不管是大是小，有形无形，就要抓紧发动民主运动。无论在什么场合，什么情况下，我们都要不断地对他们(政府)要求民主和人权。只要我们每一个人都不断地说同样的话，他们的人民就一定会相信我们说的是真理。我们抓住一个人是一个人，占住一个地盘是一个地盘，一定要不择手段。
七、要尽量鼓励他们（政府）花费，鼓励他们向我们借贷。这样我们就有十足的把握来摧毁他们的信用，使他们的货币贬值，通货膨胀。只要他们对物价失去了控制，他们在人民心目中就会完全垮台了。
八、要以我们的经济和技术的优势，有形无形地打击他们的工业。只要他们的工业在不知不觉中瘫痪下来，我们就可以鼓励社会动乱。不过我们必须表面上非常慈善地去帮助和援助他们，这样他们（政府）就显得疲软。一个疲软的政府就会带来更大更强的动乱。
九、要利用所有的资源，甚至举手投足、一言一笑，都足以破坏他们的传统价值观。我们要利用一切来毁灭他们的道德人心。摧毁他们的自尊自信的钥匙：就是尽量打击他们刻苦耐劳的精神。
十、暗地运送各种武器，装备他们一切的敌人，和可能成为他们的敌人的人们。[ 本帖最后由 che 于 2008-4-13 20:47 编辑 ]
美国信教的人很多，如果真是美国人写的，不会将“宗教”和“迷信”搁在一起说，这倒更像是我们自己人说的话。
不过它的原型来自国外。“中国十诫”的英语原型是这样的：
1. Corrupt the young; get them away from religion. Get them interested in sex. Make them superficial; destroy their ruggedness.
一、败坏年青人，让他们远离宗教，沉溺于色情，变得肤浅，不再朴实。
2. Get control of all means of publicity, thereby:
二、控制所有宣传手段，以此：
3. Get people's minds off their government by focusing their attention on athletics, sexy books, plays and immoral movies.
三、通过使人民的注意力集中在体育、色情书籍以及表演和无廉耻的电影上，让人民的思想远离政府。
4. Divide the people into hostile groups by constantly harping on controversial matters of no importance.
四、经常性地对不重要的有争议事物煽风点火，将人民分裂为互相仇视的群体。
5. Destroy the people's faith in their natural leaders by holding the latter up to contempt, ridicule and disgrace.
五、通过对自然领袖的蔑视、嘲弄与羞辱毁坏人民对其的信任。
6. Always preach true democracy, but seize power as fast and as ruthlessly as possible.
六、不停宣扬“真正的民主”，但是尽量快速与无情地夺取权力。
7. By encouraging government extravagance, destroy its credit, produce years of inflation with rising prices and general discontent.
七、通过鼓励政府铺张浪费毁坏其信用，造成物价上涨，通货膨胀和普遍的不满。
8. Incite unnecessary strikes in vital industries, encourage civil disorders and foster a lenient and soft attitude on the part of government toward such disorders.
八、在重要产业部分煽动不必要的罢工，鼓励社会动乱，造成政府对于动乱的放纵与软弱态度。
9. Cause breakdown of the old moral values - honesty, sobriety, self-restraint, faith in the pledged word, ruggedness.
九、造成旧道德--诚实、节制、自律、终于誓言与朴实--的崩溃。
10. Cause the registration of all firearms on some pretext, with a view to confiscate them and leaving the populace helpless.
十、以某种借口对所有枪械进行登记，以便某一日全部充公，使人民无以聊赖。
传说，这十条是协约国于1919年五月在德国杜塞尔多夫搜出来的“共产党革命章程”！这个“十诫”目前知道的最早发表年份是1946年。1954年，佛罗里达州司法部长George A. Brautigam证明其为真实，并签上了大名。这十诫广为流传，选民们出于警惕性或者绷得倍儿紧的阶级斗争之弦，把这十条印出来发给议员们。八十年代中期，芝加哥大学与西北大学两位俄国问题专家认定，这十条章程是彻头彻尾的伪造。
可以看出来，这十条体现了某些保守的美国人对于一系列社会变化的担忧，并且疑心病作祟，把这些变化归于“共产党渗透”，比如色情泛滥，传统道德崩溃，宗教失去吸引力，社会动荡，甚至很有美国特色的对枪械管制的恐惧。找一个敌人来指责，是很轻松的办法。把对自己观点持不同意见者，比如反对宗教，提倡对枪械进行管制，批评政府的人暗示为受共产党影响的人，好处就不止是道义优势那么一点点了。
详见：http://www.snopes.com/language/document/commrule.asp引用:
美国中央情报局从五十年代开始，就有一个相当机密的针对共产党中国的“十条诫令”，或者说是十大工作计划。它们是：
一、尽量用物质来引诱和败坏他们的青年，鼓励他们藐视、鄙视，进一步公开反对他们原来所受的思想教育，特别是共产主义教条。替他们制造对色情奔放的兴趣和机会，再鼓励他们进行性滥交。让他们不以肤浅、虚荣为羞耻。一定要毁掉他们强调过的刻苦耐劳精神。
二、一定要尽一切可能，做好宣传工作，包括电影、书籍、电视、无线电波……核心是宗教传布。只要他们向往我们的衣、食、住、行、娱乐和教育的方式，就是成功的一半。
三、一定要把他们的青年的注意力从他们以政府为中心的传统引开来。让他们的头脑集中于体育表演、色情书籍、享乐、游戏、犯罪性的电影，以及宗教迷信。
四、时常制造一些无风三尺浪的无事之事，让他们的人民公开讨论。这样就在他们的潜意识中种下了分裂的因子。特别要在他们的少数民族里找好机会，分裂他们的地区，分裂他们的民族，分裂他们的感情，在他们之间制造新仇旧恨，这是完全不能忽视的策略。
五、要不断地制造“新闻”，丑化他们的领导。我们的记者应该找机会采访他们，然后组织他们自己的言词来攻击他们自己。
六、在任何情况下都要传扬民主。一有机会，不管是大是小，有形无形，就要抓紧发动民主运动。无论在什么场合，什么情况下，我们都要不断地对他们(政府)要求民主和人权。只要我们每一个人都不断地说同样的话，他们的人民就一定会相信我们说的是真理。我们抓住一个人是一个人，占住一个地盘是一个地盘，一定要不择手段。
七、要尽量鼓励他们（政府）花费，鼓励他们向我们借贷。这样我们就有十足的把握来摧毁他们的信用，使他们的货币贬值，通货膨胀。只要他们对物价失去了控制，他们在人民心目中就会完全垮台了。
八、要以我们的经济和技术的优势，有形无形地打击他们的工业。只要他们的工业在不知不觉中瘫痪下来，我们就可以鼓励社会动乱。不过我们必须表面上非常慈善地去帮助和援助他们，这样他们（政府）就显得疲软。一个疲软的政府就会带来更大更强的动乱。
九、要利用所有的资源，甚至举手投足、一言一笑，都足以破坏他们的传统价值观。我们要利用一切来毁灭他们的道德人心。摧毁他们的自尊自信的钥匙：就是尽量打击他们刻苦耐劳的精神。
十、暗地运送各种武器，装备他们一切的敌人，和可能成为他们的敌人的人们。[ 本帖最后由 che 于 2008-4-13 20:47 编辑 ]
原帖由 凤百羽 于 2008-4-17 09:47 发表
果然又是一个连马桶堵了都能怪到CIA头上的马甲
没有人认为马桶堵上要怪CIA，除了你以外。
那么请问美国之阴、自由亚洲电台的老板是谁？
藏独、疆独、台独又是谁在支持？
WT存不存在？
你真的认为地域之争是一些口无遮拦的无聊人士挑起的吗？
你真的认为有关毛泽东、岳飞、董存瑞的话题仅仅是学术争论吗？
你认为地下宗教渗透仅仅是单纯的宗教活动吗？
轮子、广场余孽、毛旗等等垃圾又跑到什么地方去了？
如果这些事实你都能无视的话，那么我再问你，如果让你制定一个颠覆某国的计划，你打算怎么干？
另外再问你，如果“对方”的颠覆计划确实存在的话，你将之视为善意还是敌意的举动？
你真的认为地域之争是一些口无遮拦的无聊人士挑起的吗？
你真的认为有关毛泽东、岳飞、董存瑞的话题仅仅是学术争论吗？
你认为地下宗教渗透仅仅是单纯的宗教活动吗？
轮子、广场余孽、毛旗等等垃圾又跑到什么地方去了？
证据呢？CIA又不是上帝，无所不能！
原帖由 凤百羽 于 2008-4-17 09:45 发表
不论因果关系怎么样，反正公鸡一叫太阳就升起来的确是事实。不论是神棍总结的，还是骗子总结的。
如果有神棍和骗子总结出“公鸡一叫大阳就升起来”，为了显示与神棍和骗子的不同，你是否应该坚决否定“公鸡一叫大阳就升起来”是事实呢？
“公鸡一叫大阳就升起来”这件事对原始人和现代生物学家的意义完全不同嘛！
原帖由 凤百羽 于 2008-4-18 12:08 发表
证据呢？CIA又不是上帝，无所不能！
呵呵，谁说CIA是上帝来着？
只有上帝才能做到颠覆别国吗？
证据？这里不是法庭，你也不是法官。我是个普通人，而不是情报人员，我既没有举证的能力，也没举证的义务。
原帖由 凤百羽 于 2008-4-18 12:15 发表
“公鸡一叫大阳就升起来”这件事对原始人和现代生物学家的意义完全不同嘛！
呵呵，顾左右而言他了，17#的问题你一个也没回答。
老掉牙了……还有人相信？
但是如果这个计划能被各位知道，并且知道的如此详细，那就更扯淡，我不喜欢听人扯淡，也不喜欢有人用意淫的方法来证明什么，除了让我觉得很无聊，没什么意思
原帖由 彦道 于 2008-4-18 12:30 发表
呵呵，顾左右而言他了，17#的问题你一个也没回答。
瞎子啊？我18楼回答的那么快没看到啊？
原帖由 彦道 于 2008-4-18 12:17 发表
呵呵，谁说CIA是上帝来着？
只有上帝才能做到颠覆别国吗？
证据？这里不是法庭，你也不是法官。我是个普通人，而不是情报人员，我既没有举证的能力，也没举证的义务。
那也没有胡说的权利啊:D