咱们就来说说这个“天条”——与十年砍柴先生商榷

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="EN-US"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><font face="Times New Roman">&nbsp; </font></span></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">咱们就来说说这个“天条”——与十年砍柴先生商榷</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="EN-US"><p><font face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;</font></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">据报道,近日济南有一位叫做王静的女大学生,赴京向中纪委举报父亲包养情妇,对这种行为,十年砍柴先生在</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">6</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">月</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">19</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">日《南方都市报》上撰文表示质疑,认为她的做法置律法于“天条”——也即父女之间血浓于水的亲缘关系——之上,是“使家庭关系变得畸形”的做法,并进而引申指出,如果“一种官方提倡的公共道德凌驾于亲情之上”,公权力“用自己的标准来调整家庭关系”,那么“传统的家庭秩序可能被打破,‘细胞’被毒化”,整个社会躯体都会因此变得不健康。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">说实话,看见十年砍柴先生这段论述,我最初的反应是怀疑自己是否看错了,待反复阅读,确信理解无误后便不免苦笑了:这都哪儿跟哪儿啊!十年砍柴先生文中极力维护的是“天条”,那么咱们今天不说法律和党纪,就单说说这个天条,这个十年砍柴先生认为最应当重视和珍视的东西。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">十年砍柴先生说得不错,家庭关系和血缘关系,是构成整个社会结构基础的最基本元素,维护家庭关系和血缘关系的健康、和睦,是维护亲情和社会关系的前提和保证,从某种意义上而言,的确比法律更重要。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">说到此我倒要问问十年砍柴先生了,既然您这样重视“家庭关系和血缘关系”,重视家庭的伦理和教化,重视人伦和亲情,那么您是不是也认为王静父亲包养情妇的行为首先破坏了您所重视的“家庭关系”?是不是也认为这种行为将导致夫妻、父女关系的恶化,并引起您最为忧虑的“家庭之间成员关系的毒化”?是不是也认为,这样的行为,首先不符合一位丈夫、一位父亲的身份和责任?如果您也这样认为,那么,让“父母形象受到深深质疑”的人,究竟是王静的父亲,还是王静本人?</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">十年砍柴先生认为,父亲违犯了党纪国法,自有公共机构出面收拾,王静这样做“不仅伤了父亲的心,而且破坏了世上最朴素最宝贵的东西”。就算我们认同他的理论,即违犯党纪国法可以交给公共机构出面收拾而无需亲人出面吧,那么,难道您真的认为,包养情妇的行为,仅仅是“违犯党纪国法”,而不是首先破坏了夫妻关系、父女关系,伤了做妻子、做女儿的心,破坏了您所说的“世上最朴素最宝贵的东西”?难道十年砍柴先生认为包养情妇背叛妻女的行为不是对您所维护的“天条”的破坏和践踏,王静对父亲这种背叛的举报,反倒是对这种“天条”的破坏和践踏么?</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">您说传统道德,孔孟之道,好,我们就说说孔孟之道,儒家的信条,是“修身、齐家、治国、平天下”,我们不从王静父亲政府官员的身份去考量,也不从法律角度去裁判,单拿这九个字来比较,孰是孰非,不是再明白也不过么?父女之情也好,家庭之重也好,都需要父女双方、需要家庭每个成员去珍惜、去呵护,去尽自己应尽的义务,否则一切都无从说起,《孔子家语》里说,“小杖则受,大杖则走”,您看,就算最重人伦礼教的孔夫子,也是不主张不辨是非的愚孝的,不是么?</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0;"><span lang="EN-US"><p><font face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;</font></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">附十年砍柴先生原文:</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0;"><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">自有“天条”比律法更值得遵循</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/><font face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">齐鲁大地是孔孟两大圣人的故乡,这个地方的忍受忠孝之道的影响可能比别的地方更</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">深。《法制早报》报道,近日济南有一位叫王静的女大学生,赴京向中纪委举报父亲保养情</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">妇,对其大义灭亲之举,我不禁发问:忠乎?孝乎?</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">  我想用当下的主流价值观来分析王静的行为,其“忠”完全够格,因为她检举了一个丧</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">失</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">***</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">员立场,受到腐朽思想腐蚀、没有树立正确荣辱观的官员,她忠于的是国家,是政</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">府,有关部门应该给她发一面“反腐标兵”的大锦旗才对。而她的行为是否符合“孝道”,</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">则惹起了争议,她自己说举报父亲是要父亲改正错误,似乎是为父亲的晚节着想,和“孝”</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">沾了点边,而网路上多数人对其行为是否定的。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">  约</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">2000</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">年前的西汉,离王妹妹所在济南不远的地方临淄,也有一个和王静年龄差不多少</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">女缇萦,她的父亲给人治病发生医疗事故,被人告官判了肉刑(割鼻、断足等惨无人道的刑</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">罚)。缇萦也和王静一样不远千里进京上书,当然她的上书不是要求朝廷依法办事惩治父亲</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">,而是要替父去受刑。汉代以孝治天下,汉文帝一看这位民女的上书,深受感动,不但赦免</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">了缇萦的父亲,而且废除了肉刑。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">  对比缇萦,当然不能说王静就是不孝之女,我相信王静在苦劝父亲无效后,进京举报时</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">,内心充溢着和缇萦类似的崇高感、悲壮感,她也许真的以为自己这样做既挽救父亲,又维</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">护公义。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">  王静的行为是值得称赞与提倡的大公无私之举么?其实这个问题在比缇萦更早的春秋时</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">代就解决了,两位妹妹的圣人同乡孔子,听说楚国有人偷了一只羊,他的儿子去告官,别人</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">赞扬这位做儿子的正直公道。孔子说,在我们鲁国,“父为子隐,子为父隐,直在其中矣。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">”这种亲亲相隐的原则,在中国几千年封建社会里都得以遵循,没有哪个王朝鼓励儿女去告</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">发父亲,因为这样便破坏了维系整个社会最重要的纲常伦理。纲常伦理当然有不合时宜的地</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">方,但有些原则依然有跨时代的价值。比如家庭这个社会的细胞,不应该受到公共权力和官</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">方价值观更多的干涉,如果宣扬一个公众人物比你的父母还要亲,一种公共组织的恩比父母</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">的恩泽还要深,一种官方提倡的公共道德凌驾于亲情之上,那就令人担忧了。公权力如果用</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">自己的标准来调整家庭关系,那么传统的家庭秩序可能被打破,“细胞”被毒化,整个社会</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">躯体还能健康吗?</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">  我以为可担忧的不是王静这种大义灭亲的行为,而是她认为自己的行为充满正当性,也</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">就是说她认为这样做于公于私都有好处。这种想法不是从天上掉下来,有其历史脉络和现实</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">基础的。曾几何时,我们的社会充斥着“亲不亲,路线分”的论调,在阶级斗争这种泛政治</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">意识的强力干预下,家庭不成其为家庭而变为战场,夫妻相互告发父子反目成仇不是什么新</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">鲜事,连一位博学多才的女学者,在“反右”时揭露自己的丈夫——另一位博学鸿儒。参加</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">过“一二九运动”的赵俪生教授在回忆录中说到,他在清华的一位同学,在山西主持土地革</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">命时,自己做大地主的父亲被人用铁丝串鼻,在台下接受批斗,而他高高地坐在主席台上。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">  这类使家庭关系变得畸形的做法,后来得到了纠正,不过统统打上“极左思潮”的标签</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">就完事,并没有得到深入的反思。一个几千年不遗余力提倡纲常伦理、维护家庭秩序的民族</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">,家庭成员之间的关系何以毒化成那样子?反思不深必然导致祛除不力,潜在的毒素会在一</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">定的时候发芽,当然不以阶级斗争的面目而以公道正义之类的脸谱出现。比如说,有纪检监</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">察部门联合学校,让家长是官员的学生做反腐倡廉的小志愿者,在家里监督家长是否收受贿</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">赂。这实际是让孩子把父母看成有可能违法的嫌疑者监视起来,而这种不信任只能是公民对</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">政府,而不应存在于家长孩子之间。父母的形象一旦受到深深的怀疑,孩子将在一种什么样</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">的心态下长大成人?</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">  我们不必太指责王静,只是要提醒这位好很年轻的女孩,父母违背党纪国法,自有公共</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">机构出面收拾。这样做不仅是伤了父亲的心——他的错误并不能因此而丧失一个父亲的资格</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">,而且破坏了世上一种最朴素也最宝贵的东西。等你长大了,多读书多思考,你会认识到人</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">世间有比人订立出来的规矩还要重要的规则,就像古希腊女孩安提戈尼那样,她不顾国王的</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">命令为自己的弟弟收尸,因为她认为自有“天条”比国王的律法更值得遵循。(作者系《法</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">制日报》记者)</span><span lang="EN-US"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="EN-US"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><font face="Times New Roman">&nbsp; </font></span></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">咱们就来说说这个“天条”——与十年砍柴先生商榷</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="EN-US"><p><font face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;</font></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">据报道,近日济南有一位叫做王静的女大学生,赴京向中纪委举报父亲包养情妇,对这种行为,十年砍柴先生在</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">6</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">月</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">19</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">日《南方都市报》上撰文表示质疑,认为她的做法置律法于“天条”——也即父女之间血浓于水的亲缘关系——之上,是“使家庭关系变得畸形”的做法,并进而引申指出,如果“一种官方提倡的公共道德凌驾于亲情之上”,公权力“用自己的标准来调整家庭关系”,那么“传统的家庭秩序可能被打破,‘细胞’被毒化”,整个社会躯体都会因此变得不健康。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">说实话,看见十年砍柴先生这段论述,我最初的反应是怀疑自己是否看错了,待反复阅读,确信理解无误后便不免苦笑了:这都哪儿跟哪儿啊!十年砍柴先生文中极力维护的是“天条”,那么咱们今天不说法律和党纪,就单说说这个天条,这个十年砍柴先生认为最应当重视和珍视的东西。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">十年砍柴先生说得不错,家庭关系和血缘关系,是构成整个社会结构基础的最基本元素,维护家庭关系和血缘关系的健康、和睦,是维护亲情和社会关系的前提和保证,从某种意义上而言,的确比法律更重要。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">说到此我倒要问问十年砍柴先生了,既然您这样重视“家庭关系和血缘关系”,重视家庭的伦理和教化,重视人伦和亲情,那么您是不是也认为王静父亲包养情妇的行为首先破坏了您所重视的“家庭关系”?是不是也认为这种行为将导致夫妻、父女关系的恶化,并引起您最为忧虑的“家庭之间成员关系的毒化”?是不是也认为,这样的行为,首先不符合一位丈夫、一位父亲的身份和责任?如果您也这样认为,那么,让“父母形象受到深深质疑”的人,究竟是王静的父亲,还是王静本人?</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">十年砍柴先生认为,父亲违犯了党纪国法,自有公共机构出面收拾,王静这样做“不仅伤了父亲的心,而且破坏了世上最朴素最宝贵的东西”。就算我们认同他的理论,即违犯党纪国法可以交给公共机构出面收拾而无需亲人出面吧,那么,难道您真的认为,包养情妇的行为,仅仅是“违犯党纪国法”,而不是首先破坏了夫妻关系、父女关系,伤了做妻子、做女儿的心,破坏了您所说的“世上最朴素最宝贵的东西”?难道十年砍柴先生认为包养情妇背叛妻女的行为不是对您所维护的“天条”的破坏和践踏,王静对父亲这种背叛的举报,反倒是对这种“天条”的破坏和践踏么?</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">您说传统道德,孔孟之道,好,我们就说说孔孟之道,儒家的信条,是“修身、齐家、治国、平天下”,我们不从王静父亲政府官员的身份去考量,也不从法律角度去裁判,单拿这九个字来比较,孰是孰非,不是再明白也不过么?父女之情也好,家庭之重也好,都需要父女双方、需要家庭每个成员去珍惜、去呵护,去尽自己应尽的义务,否则一切都无从说起,《孔子家语》里说,“小杖则受,大杖则走”,您看,就算最重人伦礼教的孔夫子,也是不主张不辨是非的愚孝的,不是么?</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0;"><span lang="EN-US"><p><font face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;</font></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0;"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">附十年砍柴先生原文:</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0;"><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">自有“天条”比律法更值得遵循</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/><font face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">齐鲁大地是孔孟两大圣人的故乡,这个地方的忍受忠孝之道的影响可能比别的地方更</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">深。《法制早报》报道,近日济南有一位叫王静的女大学生,赴京向中纪委举报父亲保养情</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">妇,对其大义灭亲之举,我不禁发问:忠乎?孝乎?</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">  我想用当下的主流价值观来分析王静的行为,其“忠”完全够格,因为她检举了一个丧</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">失</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">***</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">员立场,受到腐朽思想腐蚀、没有树立正确荣辱观的官员,她忠于的是国家,是政</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">府,有关部门应该给她发一面“反腐标兵”的大锦旗才对。而她的行为是否符合“孝道”,</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">则惹起了争议,她自己说举报父亲是要父亲改正错误,似乎是为父亲的晚节着想,和“孝”</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">沾了点边,而网路上多数人对其行为是否定的。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">  约</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">2000</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">年前的西汉,离王妹妹所在济南不远的地方临淄,也有一个和王静年龄差不多少</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">女缇萦,她的父亲给人治病发生医疗事故,被人告官判了肉刑(割鼻、断足等惨无人道的刑</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">罚)。缇萦也和王静一样不远千里进京上书,当然她的上书不是要求朝廷依法办事惩治父亲</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">,而是要替父去受刑。汉代以孝治天下,汉文帝一看这位民女的上书,深受感动,不但赦免</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">了缇萦的父亲,而且废除了肉刑。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">  对比缇萦,当然不能说王静就是不孝之女,我相信王静在苦劝父亲无效后,进京举报时</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">,内心充溢着和缇萦类似的崇高感、悲壮感,她也许真的以为自己这样做既挽救父亲,又维</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">护公义。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">  王静的行为是值得称赞与提倡的大公无私之举么?其实这个问题在比缇萦更早的春秋时</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">代就解决了,两位妹妹的圣人同乡孔子,听说楚国有人偷了一只羊,他的儿子去告官,别人</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">赞扬这位做儿子的正直公道。孔子说,在我们鲁国,“父为子隐,子为父隐,直在其中矣。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">”这种亲亲相隐的原则,在中国几千年封建社会里都得以遵循,没有哪个王朝鼓励儿女去告</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">发父亲,因为这样便破坏了维系整个社会最重要的纲常伦理。纲常伦理当然有不合时宜的地</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">方,但有些原则依然有跨时代的价值。比如家庭这个社会的细胞,不应该受到公共权力和官</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">方价值观更多的干涉,如果宣扬一个公众人物比你的父母还要亲,一种公共组织的恩比父母</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">的恩泽还要深,一种官方提倡的公共道德凌驾于亲情之上,那就令人担忧了。公权力如果用</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">自己的标准来调整家庭关系,那么传统的家庭秩序可能被打破,“细胞”被毒化,整个社会</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">躯体还能健康吗?</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">  我以为可担忧的不是王静这种大义灭亲的行为,而是她认为自己的行为充满正当性,也</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">就是说她认为这样做于公于私都有好处。这种想法不是从天上掉下来,有其历史脉络和现实</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">基础的。曾几何时,我们的社会充斥着“亲不亲,路线分”的论调,在阶级斗争这种泛政治</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">意识的强力干预下,家庭不成其为家庭而变为战场,夫妻相互告发父子反目成仇不是什么新</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">鲜事,连一位博学多才的女学者,在“反右”时揭露自己的丈夫——另一位博学鸿儒。参加</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">过“一二九运动”的赵俪生教授在回忆录中说到,他在清华的一位同学,在山西主持土地革</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">命时,自己做大地主的父亲被人用铁丝串鼻,在台下接受批斗,而他高高地坐在主席台上。</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">  这类使家庭关系变得畸形的做法,后来得到了纠正,不过统统打上“极左思潮”的标签</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">就完事,并没有得到深入的反思。一个几千年不遗余力提倡纲常伦理、维护家庭秩序的民族</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">,家庭成员之间的关系何以毒化成那样子?反思不深必然导致祛除不力,潜在的毒素会在一</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">定的时候发芽,当然不以阶级斗争的面目而以公道正义之类的脸谱出现。比如说,有纪检监</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">察部门联合学校,让家长是官员的学生做反腐倡廉的小志愿者,在家里监督家长是否收受贿</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">赂。这实际是让孩子把父母看成有可能违法的嫌疑者监视起来,而这种不信任只能是公民对</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">政府,而不应存在于家长孩子之间。父母的形象一旦受到深深的怀疑,孩子将在一种什么样</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">的心态下长大成人?</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">  我们不必太指责王静,只是要提醒这位好很年轻的女孩,父母违背党纪国法,自有公共</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">机构出面收拾。这样做不仅是伤了父亲的心——他的错误并不能因此而丧失一个父亲的资格</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">,而且破坏了世上一种最朴素也最宝贵的东西。等你长大了,多读书多思考,你会认识到人</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">世间有比人订立出来的规矩还要重要的规则,就像古希腊女孩安提戈尼那样,她不顾国王的</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">命令为自己的弟弟收尸,因为她认为自有“天条”比国王的律法更值得遵循。(作者系《法</span><span lang="EN-US"><br/></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">制日报》记者)</span><span lang="EN-US"><p></p></span></p>
<p>法制日报的记者就是这水平啊.真不知道他是认为法律万能还是法律万恶.</p><p>提倡一个人人以告密为荣的社会当然是一种悲哀,对人性的摧残.但对错位的,特别是怀有恶意的举报,告密,法律早就有相应的规定.而举报对象如果却有过错,那么不但有"大义灭亲"这样的道德标杆,更是法律的相关要求.包庇,窝藏的罪名可基本都是针对亲戚,朋友的,不然,一个不相干的人没那么无聊.</p><p>何况,让那位砍柴先生大发感慨的事件中,举报体现的不是法律的报复,更多的是让他极力推崇的人性,亲情的报复.这世界上,没有什么性事情是天条.所以当人们真的需要一个东西是天条的时候,他们必须让法律披上强制的外衣.</p>
陶短房 发表于 2006-6-19 22:47


    老贴子,挖下坟。这是2006年的老贴子了,不知现在的十年砍柴先生若是看到美国那个玩庞氏骗局的老头被他儿子举报的例子,会发表出什么高见来,我怀疑多半是装看不见。
jiner 发表于 2011-2-4 18:54

挖坟会被扣分的
jiner 发表于 2011-2-4 18:54

当时十年砍柴是混天涯的良心派吧
现代社会本来就要求公民遵守法律,高过人情,哪像奴隶社会,奴隶举报主人是要杀头的。
看过砍柴的红楼评,写的不错,不知现在他在哪里混