马斯克起诉政府,指责国防部腐败,Space X受到洛马与波 ...

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Elon Musk Just Exposed Billions in Corrupt Pentagon Spending to Weapons Monopoly


Lockheed Martin and Boeing continue to hold an unnecessarily costly monopoly on the Defense Department’s space program, despite an alternative that would spare taxpayers no less than $250 million — each time a space launch is conducted. Government favoritism for the United Launch Alliance — an alliance turned monopoly between Lockheed and Boeing — has left Elon Musk’s SpaceX out in the cold despite enormous potential savings.

As a report from Politico revealed, each space launch conducted by the ULA comes with a whopping $350 million price tag, and though SpaceX can promise the same for less than $100 million, ULA’s chokehold on the program will perpetuate the Pentagon’s wasteful spending for years to come.

Worse, as Politico explains, “ULA is under investigation by the Pentagon for possible corrupt bidding practices and is preparing to lay off 25 percent of its workforce. Its long-term viability is in doubt.

“Even the Pentagon’s acquisition chief grants that the creation of ULA — a monopoly criticized by the Federal Trade Commission when it was formed at the government’s behest a decade ago — may have been a mistake.”

SpaceX, or Space Exploration Technologies Corp., sued the government to gain access to the bidding process — the terms of that out-of-court settlement were sealed and remain undisclosed — and subsequently won its first military contract on April 27. ULA haughtily refused to participate in the bid, despite it being the first opportunity to justify its costs in the face of competition.

“We did what we were asked to do,” affirmed ULA CEO Tory Bruno in an interview, noting the company’s successful record. “I think the government has been an excellent steward of their resources and of this mission, and ULA has done everything they have been asked to do.”

Lockheed and Boeing issued a joint statement to Politico, echoing ULA’s sentiment, which read, in part, “We are proud of our work with ULA. No other company has achieved 100 percent mission success in delivering critical national security, scientific and commercial satellites safely into their correct orbit every time.”

Despite ULA’s self-congratulatory balking at criticism, taxpayers have no choice but to continue paying hundreds of millions for programs SpaceX can perform more cost-effectively. And that viable competition is precisely what concerned the FTC when the ULA monopoly was originally formed.

“The anticipated result of anticompetitive consolidation would be to reduce the rate of innovation and other non-price benefits and increase the prices that the government, including the Air Force, NASA and other government agencies, would pay for these services,” explained Michael Moiseyev, then-assistant director of the bureau of competition for the FTC, in July 2006.

“In short, the joint venture unambiguously will create a monopoly in the market for medium and heavy launch services for the U.S. government,” he added. “Monopolies almost always lead to higher prices, lower quality and inferior service … Here, the competition that would be lost is significant, and the economic benefits that may materialize are unlikely to trump the transaction’s harm to competition.”

Because the DoD was concerned about being left with only one company capable of launching satellites it deems essential to military operations, the FTC “concluded the ULA would improve national security and that the unique national security benefits from the joint venture would exceed any anticompetitive harm,” the Washington Post noted of the decision in 2006.

Since 2006, public documents from the Government Accountability Office show ULA has received at least $15 billion in federal funds — and in actuality, the figure may be far higher: “The exact number is difficult to calculate because ULA receives some of its funding through the so-called black budget, the confidential $50 billion-plus budget of the CIA, NSA, National Reconnaissance Office and other agencies.”

That readily available funding might have driven ULA to significantly overestimate costs of carrying out its missions.

“As evidence that we were paying too much to ULA,” explained Frank Kendall, undersecretary of defense for acquisition, technology and logistics, in a statement to Politico, “as soon as there was even the threat of competition, their costs came down quite a bit. And they were obviously motivated at that point in time. Motivation matters. Financial incentives matter.”

Musk’s frustration over the DoD’s blatant favoritism of ULA came through in an interview with Bloomberg in 2015, cited by Politico, while he was attempting to attain certification for SpaceX.

“ULA has decided that they’re afraid even of an unfair competition,” Musk asserted. “They don’t want a fair competition. They don’t even want an unfair competition. They want no competition at all … They’re afraid that the huge gravy train that they have exclusive access to is now going to be not as big. We’re just talking about taking some portion of that.

SpaceX’s recently-awarded $83 million Air Force launch contract came in $55 million less than what the Air Force believed it would have spent for the same service from ULA. But the Lockheed-Boeing alliance will still get paid — the company receives an $800 million-per-year “capabilities contract,” whether or not its services are used.

“Do you know of any other federal arrangement with any other defense corporation where you pay them $800 million a year simply to remain in business?” Sen. John McCain asked Kendall at a hearing in January.

Perhaps Elon Musk’s innovative venture into the cosmos through SpaceX finally exposes excessive waste so common in the Pentagon’s bloated budget — an enormous chunk of which remains unaccounted for. A report last June found the Pentagon has essentially ‘lost track’ of around $8.5 trillion — yes, trillion — in taxpayer funded programs granted by Congress, just since 1996. As it turns out, the Pentagon has simply never complied with audits required by the government since that time; but as its fealty to ULA’s bloated space contracts shows, taxpayers are getting the shafted at every turn.


http://thefreethoughtproject.com/elon-musk-exposed-billions-corrupt-pentagon-spending-weapon-monopoly/


Elon Musk Just Exposed Billions in Corrupt Pentagon Spending to Weapons Monopoly


Lockheed Martin and Boeing continue to hold an unnecessarily costly monopoly on the Defense Department’s space program, despite an alternative that would spare taxpayers no less than $250 million — each time a space launch is conducted. Government favoritism for the United Launch Alliance — an alliance turned monopoly between Lockheed and Boeing — has left Elon Musk’s SpaceX out in the cold despite enormous potential savings.

As a report from Politico revealed, each space launch conducted by the ULA comes with a whopping $350 million price tag, and though SpaceX can promise the same for less than $100 million, ULA’s chokehold on the program will perpetuate the Pentagon’s wasteful spending for years to come.

Worse, as Politico explains, “ULA is under investigation by the Pentagon for possible corrupt bidding practices and is preparing to lay off 25 percent of its workforce. Its long-term viability is in doubt.

“Even the Pentagon’s acquisition chief grants that the creation of ULA — a monopoly criticized by the Federal Trade Commission when it was formed at the government’s behest a decade ago — may have been a mistake.”

SpaceX, or Space Exploration Technologies Corp., sued the government to gain access to the bidding process — the terms of that out-of-court settlement were sealed and remain undisclosed — and subsequently won its first military contract on April 27. ULA haughtily refused to participate in the bid, despite it being the first opportunity to justify its costs in the face of competition.

“We did what we were asked to do,” affirmed ULA CEO Tory Bruno in an interview, noting the company’s successful record. “I think the government has been an excellent steward of their resources and of this mission, and ULA has done everything they have been asked to do.”

Lockheed and Boeing issued a joint statement to Politico, echoing ULA’s sentiment, which read, in part, “We are proud of our work with ULA. No other company has achieved 100 percent mission success in delivering critical national security, scientific and commercial satellites safely into their correct orbit every time.”

Despite ULA’s self-congratulatory balking at criticism, taxpayers have no choice but to continue paying hundreds of millions for programs SpaceX can perform more cost-effectively. And that viable competition is precisely what concerned the FTC when the ULA monopoly was originally formed.

“The anticipated result of anticompetitive consolidation would be to reduce the rate of innovation and other non-price benefits and increase the prices that the government, including the Air Force, NASA and other government agencies, would pay for these services,” explained Michael Moiseyev, then-assistant director of the bureau of competition for the FTC, in July 2006.

“In short, the joint venture unambiguously will create a monopoly in the market for medium and heavy launch services for the U.S. government,” he added. “Monopolies almost always lead to higher prices, lower quality and inferior service … Here, the competition that would be lost is significant, and the economic benefits that may materialize are unlikely to trump the transaction’s harm to competition.”

Because the DoD was concerned about being left with only one company capable of launching satellites it deems essential to military operations, the FTC “concluded the ULA would improve national security and that the unique national security benefits from the joint venture would exceed any anticompetitive harm,” the Washington Post noted of the decision in 2006.

Since 2006, public documents from the Government Accountability Office show ULA has received at least $15 billion in federal funds — and in actuality, the figure may be far higher: “The exact number is difficult to calculate because ULA receives some of its funding through the so-called black budget, the confidential $50 billion-plus budget of the CIA, NSA, National Reconnaissance Office and other agencies.”

That readily available funding might have driven ULA to significantly overestimate costs of carrying out its missions.

“As evidence that we were paying too much to ULA,” explained Frank Kendall, undersecretary of defense for acquisition, technology and logistics, in a statement to Politico, “as soon as there was even the threat of competition, their costs came down quite a bit. And they were obviously motivated at that point in time. Motivation matters. Financial incentives matter.”

Musk’s frustration over the DoD’s blatant favoritism of ULA came through in an interview with Bloomberg in 2015, cited by Politico, while he was attempting to attain certification for SpaceX.

“ULA has decided that they’re afraid even of an unfair competition,” Musk asserted. “They don’t want a fair competition. They don’t even want an unfair competition. They want no competition at all … They’re afraid that the huge gravy train that they have exclusive access to is now going to be not as big. We’re just talking about taking some portion of that.

SpaceX’s recently-awarded $83 million Air Force launch contract came in $55 million less than what the Air Force believed it would have spent for the same service from ULA. But the Lockheed-Boeing alliance will still get paid — the company receives an $800 million-per-year “capabilities contract,” whether or not its services are used.

“Do you know of any other federal arrangement with any other defense corporation where you pay them $800 million a year simply to remain in business?” Sen. John McCain asked Kendall at a hearing in January.

Perhaps Elon Musk’s innovative venture into the cosmos through SpaceX finally exposes excessive waste so common in the Pentagon’s bloated budget — an enormous chunk of which remains unaccounted for. A report last June found the Pentagon has essentially ‘lost track’ of around $8.5 trillion — yes, trillion — in taxpayer funded programs granted by Congress, just since 1996. As it turns out, the Pentagon has simply never complied with audits required by the government since that time; but as its fealty to ULA’s bloated space contracts shows, taxpayers are getting the shafted at every turn.


文章说的不是新起诉,红字那句话说的是前几年不能参与军星竞标的那个起诉,然后SpaceX赢了,之后可以参与军星竞标了

然后几年下来终于拿到的唯一竞标成功的GPS任务,还是因去年搞“制裁”,买不了RD180,ULA没参加,SpaceX是唯一投标者才赢的,其他任务照样全给ULA。

然后去年底“制裁”也突然解除了

ULA就是波音和洛马,美国军星全是波音和洛马造的
发射费用又只是军星造价的一小部分,交给SpaceX发射,人家就以兼容费为名给卫星报价提高个3-5%就能让军方赔钱,提高个10%就把钱全赚回来了

文章说的不是新起诉,红字那句话说的是前几年不能参与军星竞标的那个起诉,然后SpaceX赢了,之后可以参与军星竞标了

然后几年下来终于拿到的唯一竞标成功的GPS任务,还是因去年搞“制裁”,买不了RD180,ULA没参加,SpaceX是唯一投标者才赢的,其他任务照样全给ULA。

然后去年底“制裁”也突然解除了

ULA就是波音和洛马,美国军星全是波音和洛马造的
发射费用又只是军星造价的一小部分,交给SpaceX发射,人家就以兼容费为名给卫星报价提高个3-5%就能让军方赔钱,提高个10%就把钱全赚回来了
SpaceX, or Space Exploration Technologies Corp., sued the government to gain access to the bidding process — the terms of that out-of-court settlement were sealed and remain undisclosed — and subsequently won its first military contract on April 27. ULA haughtily refused to participate in the bid, despite it being the first opportunity to justify its costs in the face of competition.



马斯克起诉政府,认为招标过程不公平不透明







敢起诉甲方? 完蛋了,以后压根就不带你玩了。。。。。。。
你起诉个几把,标准都达不到还指责政府?
吸睛怪招?
我之前说担心他给突突了的就是这个茬,丫的没事找事,开始绑架舆论公开质疑dod暗箱操作,给ula签下3650亿刀的大合约
iewgnem 发表于 2016-5-26 03:18
文章说的不是新起诉,红字那句话说的是前几年不能参与军星竞标的那个起诉,然后SpaceX赢了,之后可以参与军 ...

打铁还需自身硬,spacex需要明白这个道理,最起码得等FH获得认证之后,才有足够筹码
不是起诉,打铁还需自身硬,只要够可靠,够便宜。军费吃紧的情况下,美帝空军不可能和钱过不去。

F-35,下一代中轰B-21等要花钱的地方多着呢。
qiuike-2 发表于 2016-5-25 22:36
敢起诉甲方? 完蛋了,以后压根就不带你玩了。。。。。。。
你以为那是在中国。。。
特斯拉告汽车销售法规都告赢了
从不泡妞 发表于 2016-5-26 09:48
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你根本不知道洛马和波音这两个军工复合体的实力,它们是由军队、军工企业和部分国会议员组成的庞大利益集团。
以为私人公司真的逆天无敌了啊,官僚垄断不是中国独有的,呵呵,美国佬也不例外啊
你根本不知道洛马和波音这两个军工复合体的实力,它们是由军队、军工企业和部分国会议员组成的庞大利益集 ...

你就继续为你的半封建无法治祖国找心理安慰吧
callmeK 发表于 2016-5-26 22:51
你就继续为你的半封建无法治祖国找心理安慰吧
哇哦。拭目以待
callmeK 发表于 2016-5-26 22:51
你就继续为你的半封建无法治祖国找心理安慰吧

兄台是哪国人?  报上国名。    你中文还不错的样子。。。
callmeK 发表于 2016-5-26 22:51
你就继续为你的半封建无法治祖国找心理安慰吧
哪里是什么半封建!封建制度在秦始皇那里就结束了,以后2000多年都是皇权专制制度。
导弹武库核潜艇 发表于 2016-5-26 09:22
不是起诉,打铁还需自身硬,只要够可靠,够便宜。军费吃紧的情况下,美帝空军不可能和钱过不去。

F-35, ...
军队想要省钱?可以,但前提是肉要烂在军工集团的锅里

军工集团可以少赚点钱,但不能容忍少赚钱还损失市场份额

Novyi 发表于 2016-5-27 14:22
军队想要省钱?可以,但前提是肉要烂在军工集团的锅里

军工集团可以少赚点钱,但不能容忍少赚钱还损失 ...


空军是自由的,要是太垃圾也不可能强迫空军。

联合发射联盟推出了富尔干应对SPX的竞争,说明,他们也知道怎么回事,

谁都没有皇帝那种凌驾于一切之上的权力


Novyi 发表于 2016-5-27 14:22
军队想要省钱?可以,但前提是肉要烂在军工集团的锅里

军工集团可以少赚点钱,但不能容忍少赚钱还损失 ...


空军是自由的,要是太垃圾也不可能强迫空军。

联合发射联盟推出了富尔干应对SPX的竞争,说明,他们也知道怎么回事,

谁都没有皇帝那种凌驾于一切之上的权力

导弹武库核潜艇 发表于 2016-5-27 14:24
空军是自由的,要是太垃圾也不可能强迫空军。

联合发射联盟推出了富尔干应对SPX的竞争,说明,他们 ...
谁也没说ULA的东西质量不好啊
Novyi 发表于 2016-5-27 14:29
谁也没说ULA的东西质量不好啊

没说他们不好,现实中,他们还是推出了富尔干应对SPX的竞争,
callmeK 发表于 2016-5-26 22:51
你就继续为你的半封建无法治祖国找心理安慰吧
大神啊
没说他们不好,现实中,他们还是推出了富尔干应对SPX的竞争,
搞出来再说吧
Novyi 发表于 2016-5-27 15:35
搞出来再说吧
他们正在抓紧时间研发。
为什么这么鄙视spx?就是因为一个搞航天的,一天到晚各种自我炒作各种吹牛逼画大饼,媒体上制造大新闻吸引眼球
为什么这么鄙视spx?就是因为一个搞航天的,一天到晚各种自我炒作各种吹牛逼画大饼,媒体上制造大新闻吸引 ...
鄙视是因为心虚
自己以前吹嘘的各种体制优势精神优势全部化为泡影
是不是觉得人生观价值观都要崩塌了啊?
你就继续为你的半封建无法治祖国找心理安慰吧
原来还真有外国友人上超大
就是不知道是不是精神外国人
callmeK 发表于 2016-5-26 22:51
你就继续为你的半封建无法治祖国找心理安慰吧
我就喜欢看你们因为强大事实无法反驳,恼羞成怒拿第三世界发展中国家比烂的行为。
callmeK 发表于 2016-5-28 13:56
鄙视是因为心虚
自己以前吹嘘的各种体制优势精神优势全部化为泡影
是不是觉得人生观价值观都要崩塌了啊 ...
心虚?哈哈,花式殡葬公司Mars One都有人砸钱,那么着急开扩新兴市场,你们恐怕不止是心虚,而是你们快被资本淹死了吧。救市靠印钞、发展靠幻想、举债搞金融、未来天知道!

从不泡妞 发表于 2016-5-26 09:48
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是啊 然后特斯拉被变相冷落到现在 叫天天不应

从不泡妞 发表于 2016-5-26 09:48
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是啊 然后特斯拉被变相冷落到现在 叫天天不应
AEUS 发表于 2016-5-25 22:43
你起诉个几把,标准都达不到还指责政府?
注意语言!
你就继续为你的半封建无法治祖国找心理安慰吧
你这种症状学名叫做中二
以为私人公司真的逆天无敌了啊,官僚垄断不是中国独有的,呵呵,美国佬也不例外啊   。。。波音 洛克希德 基本就是战略国企。、、、
哪里是什么半封建!封建制度在秦始皇那里就结束了,以后2000多年都是皇权专制制度。
中国压根就没封建过
钱不够花了?
**** 作者被禁止或删除 内容自动屏蔽 ****
你又是哪来的玩意
为什么这么鄙视spx?就是因为一个搞航天的,一天到晚各种自我炒作各种吹牛逼画大饼,媒体上制造大新闻吸引 ...
spx还需要制造新闻?
私人公司从发射火箭 到发射飞船去ISS 返回 发射火箭并回收   哪个不是超级头条?还用他自己炒作?

这要是放在国内就是新闻频道24小时循环播放天天吹的节奏


之所以大家天天吹spx  就是因为它把自己吹过的牛皮一一实现  然后又吹出更大的牛皮