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周三一缅甸法庭官员说,因偷伐木材,宣判153名中国公民无期徒刑,另有两人十年监禁。一个监狱部门的官员也证实了该判决。

(另外南华早报的报导是,中国大使馆发言人说,甚至判10年-20年,我们都认为判的太重。说明中国媒体误读了中国大使馆发言。已贴在了下面)

最新:人民网英文报导,
中国驻缅甸大使馆说153名中国人周三被判无期,实际不需服刑终身,150人只需服刑20年,2人需服刑10年,1名贩毒者需服刑35年。

http://en.people.cn/n/2015/0723/c90000-8924657.html?
Chinese embassy in Myanmar said Wednesday the life sentence to the 153 Chinese citizens by a Myanmar court is actually not for life serving, 150 of them will serve 20 years, two teenagers will serve 10 year while another drug smuggler will serve 35 years .
According to Beijing based Jinghua Times, the Chinese embassy has already contacted related Myanmar department to negotiate the issue.
Earlier reported said a local court in Myanmar has sentenced 153 Chinese nationals to life imprisonment for illegal logging.
The Chinese nationals were arrested in January for entering the country and involving in illegal logging and timber trade.
Regions along Myanmar's border with China have long been hotbeds for the illegal timber trade. Much of Myanmar's jade is also believed to be illegally smuggled into China.
(For the latest China news, Please follow People's Daily on Twitter and Facebook)


http://www.trust.org/item/20150722121830-bajex/?
Chinese nationals sentenced to life for illegal logging
Source: Reuters - Wed, 22 Jul 2015 12:17 GMT
Author: Reuter

YANGON, July 22 (Reuters) - A court in Myanmar has sentenced 153 Chinese nationals to life imprisonment for illegal logging, a court official said on Wednesday.

A court in Myitkyina, capital of Kachin State in the north of the country, handed down sentences to 155 Chinese citizens. Two of the convicted escaped life sentences and were served with 10-year prison terms.

All will have a chance to appeal the rulings, said a court official, who declined to be identified as he is not authorized to speak to the media.

Officials from the Chinese Embassy in Yangon were not immediately available for comment. China's Foreign Ministry also did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The individuals were arrested in January in a crackdown on the country's lucrative illegal logging and timber trade launched by the military, police and forestry department.

According to state media at the time, more than 400 vehicles and 1,600 logs were seized during the raid.

An official from Myitkyina's prison department confirmed the sentences.

Regions along Myanmar's porous border with China have long been hotbeds for the illegal trade in timber to feed Chinese demand. Much of Myanmar's jade is also believed to be illegally smuggled into China.

China's voracious demand for Myanmar's raw materials has contributed to a degree of resentment in Myanmar towards its giant northern neighbour.

Aye Myint Maung, deputy minister from the Ministry of Environmental Conservation and Forestry, told parliament in June that 10,000 tons of illegal timber had been seized from illegal loggers since January, most of it was from Kachin State, he said.

Kachin State has seen an increase in conflict since 2011, when a 17-year ceasefire between the Myanmar military and autonomy-seeking ethnic Kachin rebels broke down. (Reporting by Aung Hla Tun; Additional reporting by Ben Blanchard in Beijing; Writing by Timothy McLaughlin; Editing by Robert Birsel)

周三一缅甸法庭官员说,因偷伐木材,宣判153名中国公民无期徒刑,另有两人十年监禁。一个监狱部门的官员也证实了该判决。

(另外南华早报的报导是,中国大使馆发言人说,甚至判10年-20年,我们都认为判的太重。说明中国媒体误读了中国大使馆发言。已贴在了下面)

最新:人民网英文报导,
中国驻缅甸大使馆说153名中国人周三被判无期,实际不需服刑终身,150人只需服刑20年,2人需服刑10年,1名贩毒者需服刑35年。

http://en.people.cn/n/2015/0723/c90000-8924657.html?
Chinese embassy in Myanmar said Wednesday the life sentence to the 153 Chinese citizens by a Myanmar court is actually not for life serving, 150 of them will serve 20 years, two teenagers will serve 10 year while another drug smuggler will serve 35 years .
According to Beijing based Jinghua Times, the Chinese embassy has already contacted related Myanmar department to negotiate the issue.
Earlier reported said a local court in Myanmar has sentenced 153 Chinese nationals to life imprisonment for illegal logging.
The Chinese nationals were arrested in January for entering the country and involving in illegal logging and timber trade.
Regions along Myanmar's border with China have long been hotbeds for the illegal timber trade. Much of Myanmar's jade is also believed to be illegally smuggled into China.
(For the latest China news, Please follow People's Daily on Twitter and Facebook)


http://www.trust.org/item/20150722121830-bajex/?
Chinese nationals sentenced to life for illegal logging
Source: Reuters - Wed, 22 Jul 2015 12:17 GMT
Author: Reuter

YANGON, July 22 (Reuters) - A court in Myanmar has sentenced 153 Chinese nationals to life imprisonment for illegal logging, a court official said on Wednesday.

A court in Myitkyina, capital of Kachin State in the north of the country, handed down sentences to 155 Chinese citizens. Two of the convicted escaped life sentences and were served with 10-year prison terms.

All will have a chance to appeal the rulings, said a court official, who declined to be identified as he is not authorized to speak to the media.

Officials from the Chinese Embassy in Yangon were not immediately available for comment. China's Foreign Ministry also did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The individuals were arrested in January in a crackdown on the country's lucrative illegal logging and timber trade launched by the military, police and forestry department.

According to state media at the time, more than 400 vehicles and 1,600 logs were seized during the raid.

An official from Myitkyina's prison department confirmed the sentences.

Regions along Myanmar's porous border with China have long been hotbeds for the illegal trade in timber to feed Chinese demand. Much of Myanmar's jade is also believed to be illegally smuggled into China.

China's voracious demand for Myanmar's raw materials has contributed to a degree of resentment in Myanmar towards its giant northern neighbour.

Aye Myint Maung, deputy minister from the Ministry of Environmental Conservation and Forestry, told parliament in June that 10,000 tons of illegal timber had been seized from illegal loggers since January, most of it was from Kachin State, he said.

Kachin State has seen an increase in conflict since 2011, when a 17-year ceasefire between the Myanmar military and autonomy-seeking ethnic Kachin rebels broke down. (Reporting by Aung Hla Tun; Additional reporting by Ben Blanchard in Beijing; Writing by Timothy McLaughlin; Editing by Robert Birsel)


南华早报的报导是,中国大使馆发言人说,甚至判10年-20年,我们都认为太重。

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy-defence/article/1842948/myanmar-sentences-153-chinese-illegal-loggers-life

A court in Myanmar has handed life sentences to 153 Chinese nationals for illegal logging, according to a court official.

The court in Myitkyina, capital of Kachin state in the north of the country, also sentenced two Chinese to 10-year prison terms.

A spokesman for the Chinese embassy in Yangon said it had lodged "solemn" representations with the Myanmese authorities.

The spokesman said the embassy was still verifying what had happened with the Myanmese authorities, but said that Chinese nationals had been given fixed imprisonment terms.

He added: "Even if they were jailed for 10 or 20 years, we still believe the sentence is too heavy."

Consulate officials had arrived in Myitkyina, and would liaise with the court over the verdict, the spokesman added.

"We will provide assistance to the Chinese if they want to appeal to a higher court," he said.

The Chinese nationals would all have a chance to appeal the rulings, said a Myanmese court official, who declined to be identified.

The individuals were arrested in January in a crackdown on the country's lucrative illegal logging and timber trade launched by the military, police and forestry department. According to state media at the time, more than 400 vehicles and 1,600 logs were seized during the raid.

An official from Myitkyina's prison department confirmed the sentences.

Chinese foreign ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said in January that China was in contact with Myanmar to seek "a proper solution" for the case.

Regions along Myanmar's porous border with the mainland have long been hotbeds for the illegal trade in timber to feed Chinese demand. Much of Myanmar's jade is also smuggled into the mainland.

The mainland's voracious demand for Myanmar's raw materials has contributed to resentment in the country towards its giant northern neighbour.

Aye Myint Maung, deputy minister of Myanmar's Ministry of Environmental Conservation and Forestry, told parliament in June that 10,000 tonnes of illegal timber had been seized from illegal loggers since January, most of it from Kachin state.

Kachin has seen an increase in conflict since 2011, when a 17-year ceasefire between the Myanmese military and autonomy-seeking ethnic Kachin rebels broke down.

南华早报的报导是,中国大使馆发言人说,甚至判10年-20年,我们都认为太重。

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy-defence/article/1842948/myanmar-sentences-153-chinese-illegal-loggers-life

A court in Myanmar has handed life sentences to 153 Chinese nationals for illegal logging, according to a court official.

The court in Myitkyina, capital of Kachin state in the north of the country, also sentenced two Chinese to 10-year prison terms.

A spokesman for the Chinese embassy in Yangon said it had lodged "solemn" representations with the Myanmese authorities.

The spokesman said the embassy was still verifying what had happened with the Myanmese authorities, but said that Chinese nationals had been given fixed imprisonment terms.

He added: "Even if they were jailed for 10 or 20 years, we still believe the sentence is too heavy."

Consulate officials had arrived in Myitkyina, and would liaise with the court over the verdict, the spokesman added.

"We will provide assistance to the Chinese if they want to appeal to a higher court," he said.

The Chinese nationals would all have a chance to appeal the rulings, said a Myanmese court official, who declined to be identified.

The individuals were arrested in January in a crackdown on the country's lucrative illegal logging and timber trade launched by the military, police and forestry department. According to state media at the time, more than 400 vehicles and 1,600 logs were seized during the raid.

An official from Myitkyina's prison department confirmed the sentences.

Chinese foreign ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said in January that China was in contact with Myanmar to seek "a proper solution" for the case.

Regions along Myanmar's porous border with the mainland have long been hotbeds for the illegal trade in timber to feed Chinese demand. Much of Myanmar's jade is also smuggled into the mainland.

The mainland's voracious demand for Myanmar's raw materials has contributed to resentment in the country towards its giant northern neighbour.

Aye Myint Maung, deputy minister of Myanmar's Ministry of Environmental Conservation and Forestry, told parliament in June that 10,000 tonnes of illegal timber had been seized from illegal loggers since January, most of it from Kachin state.

Kachin has seen an increase in conflict since 2011, when a 17-year ceasefire between the Myanmese military and autonomy-seeking ethnic Kachin rebels broke down.
20年和无期在政治上差不多是一个概念
150几人和几人几人的渔民却不是一个概念。
要是政府不能做出有效措施来制止这件事情,那可真是药丸
缅甸猴子都搞不定就真的别提什么崛起了
挺好的由头
一路一带真的那么重要吗,哪怕150多人需要为此背上一个莫须有的罪名坐一辈子的牢也是值得的吗?
一路一带真的那么重要吗,哪怕150多人需要为此背上一个莫须有的罪名坐一辈子的牢也是值得的吗?
阅兵之前得给P民一个说法
是不是真的违反了缅甸法律?如果有只能靠影响力,没有那就开干吧
是不是真的违反了缅甸法律?如果有只能靠影响力,没有那就开干吧
违法那肯定是违法的,但哪家的法院也不可能一口气判153人20年。简直是奇葩
这是一件政治事件,强硬处理,则中国威胁论大起。软弱处理,民心尽失,就看政府是缩头还是硬刚。
老美为了挑动周边炮灰打断中国进程,已经是无所不用其极了,这山雨欲来我不由的想起联军罚秦了。
此事应该可以商量,毕竟缅甸还没必要完全跟中国对着干。
违法那肯定是违法的,但哪家的法院也不可能一口气判153人20年。简直是奇葩
这是一件政治事件,强硬处理 ...
违法了就怪不得别人了,只能依靠国家的影响力去跟他们谈吧,他手上有这个筹码,
个人馊主意,明目张胆的挑北方民族干,条件是给我弄个新政权,就是感觉四特他们没这能量,大战略还是要依靠当政府,最近那里又不太平,缅甸拿这些人做利益交换也说不准。


张雨延 发表于 2015-7-23 01:50
违法那肯定是违法的,但哪家的法院也不可能一口气判153人20年。简直是奇葩
这是一件政治事件,强硬处理 ...


我赌木耳照,这次兔鳖依然忍气吞声,至少无为力,就像前两次航弹事件。
张雨延 发表于 2015-7-23 01:50
违法那肯定是违法的,但哪家的法院也不可能一口气判153人20年。简直是奇葩
这是一件政治事件,强硬处理 ...


我赌木耳照,这次兔鳖依然忍气吞声,至少无为力,就像前两次航弹事件。

张雨延 发表于 2015-7-23 01:50
违法那肯定是违法的,但哪家的法院也不可能一口气判153人20年。简直是奇葩
这是一件政治事件,强硬处理 ...


呵呵,埃及的法院判穆兄会用过,不过人家的杀威棒打的是自己人,也不知道缅甸是不是要给美国递投名状,总之这次这件事实在是太不符合国际惯例了。
张雨延 发表于 2015-7-23 01:50
违法那肯定是违法的,但哪家的法院也不可能一口气判153人20年。简直是奇葩
这是一件政治事件,强硬处理 ...


呵呵,埃及的法院判穆兄会用过,不过人家的杀威棒打的是自己人,也不知道缅甸是不是要给美国递投名状,总之这次这件事实在是太不符合国际惯例了。
是不是以后都可以有样学样。南苏丹也可以抓和北苏丹合约的中国人说违反了他的法律。
剑神阿呆 发表于 2015-7-23 02:09
违法了就怪不得别人了,只能依靠国家的影响力去跟他们谈吧,他手上有这个筹码,
个人馊主意,明目张胆的 ...
克钦邦同意砍伐,可是政府不承认克钦邦的地位,所以今天这事说非法也非法,说合法也合法,上次在佤邦被扣的伐木工人就还给佤联军了,当时就是佤邦说合法缅甸说非法。
我赌木耳照,这次兔鳖依然忍气吞声,就像前两次航弹事件。
这次可比不上航蛋事件,那次才几个人,这次可是153人。要是判几年还行,判20年那就是赤裸裸地抽中国的脸了。
真这样那我就暂时几年不逛军坛不关心时政了,看着闹心〒_〒
剑神阿呆 发表于 2015-7-23 02:09
违法了就怪不得别人了,只能依靠国家的影响力去跟他们谈吧,他手上有这个筹码,
个人馊主意,明目张胆的 ...

如果中国自己先认为肯定违法,就已经输了。是不是中国以后不能和四特做生意?不然缅甸找个借口抓人还不容易?不要拿什么环保这些看上去高大上的东西来说。是人都知道是怎么回事。

风中飞叶 发表于 2015-7-23 02:16
克钦邦同意砍伐,可是政府不承认克钦邦的地位,所以今天这事说非法也非法,说合法也合法,上次在佤邦被扣 ...


那中国就正式承认克钦邦地位。这样就合法了。缅甸给脸不要脸,那中国也可以硬来,中国说合法就合法,因为中国承认克钦地位,中国认为缅甸必须尊重克钦的自治权,中国可以拿以前军政府和民地武的协议出来说事,正式摊在台面上,那么伐木就是合法的。缅甸翻脸挑衅,那就翻脸好了,谁怕谁。缅甸的行为事实上已经完全超出了低限,完全是对敌对国的行为,既然要把中国当敌对国,那就应该做一个合格的敌对国。
风中飞叶 发表于 2015-7-23 02:16
克钦邦同意砍伐,可是政府不承认克钦邦的地位,所以今天这事说非法也非法,说合法也合法,上次在佤邦被扣 ...


那中国就正式承认克钦邦地位。这样就合法了。缅甸给脸不要脸,那中国也可以硬来,中国说合法就合法,因为中国承认克钦地位,中国认为缅甸必须尊重克钦的自治权,中国可以拿以前军政府和民地武的协议出来说事,正式摊在台面上,那么伐木就是合法的。缅甸翻脸挑衅,那就翻脸好了,谁怕谁。缅甸的行为事实上已经完全超出了低限,完全是对敌对国的行为,既然要把中国当敌对国,那就应该做一个合格的敌对国。
剑神阿呆 发表于 2015-7-23 02:09
违法了就怪不得别人了,只能依靠国家的影响力去跟他们谈吧,他手上有这个筹码,
个人馊主意,明目张胆的 ...
如果中国自己先认为肯定违法,就已经输了。是不是中国以后不能和四特做生意?不然缅甸找个借口抓人还不 ...
尊重国家主权是基本,缅甸政府是缅甸唯一合法政府,去那边讨生活就该预估风险,这次只能看国家影响力和外交手腕了,事情咱不能一厢情愿的去想,如果是缅甸人跑我们这边来干违法的事,问心自问我们会不会放人?
PS砍几根树就判20年,这刑罚也是醉了
剑神阿呆 发表于 2015-7-23 02:09
违法了就怪不得别人了,只能依靠国家的影响力去跟他们谈吧,他手上有这个筹码,
个人馊主意,明目张胆的 ...

北方民族除非先统一,哪怕统一也只是勉强可以顶一下,不然就凭那点力量根本烂泥扶不上墙,北方民族可能自己就有和军政府勾结的。可以放风出去愿意和佤邦统一的,中国才帮,不然以后出任何事,中国一概不管。

剑神阿呆 发表于 2015-7-23 02:25
尊重国家主权是基本,缅甸政府是缅甸唯一合法政府,去那边讨生活就该预估风险,这次只能看国家影响力和外 ...


尊重克钦自治权和尊重缅甸主权并不矛盾,中国尊重缅甸主权,中国同样要求其必须遵守和民地武的历史协议。他自己以前和民地武有那些协议,就不要怪中国用这些出手。
剑神阿呆 发表于 2015-7-23 02:25
尊重国家主权是基本,缅甸政府是缅甸唯一合法政府,去那边讨生活就该预估风险,这次只能看国家影响力和外 ...


尊重克钦自治权和尊重缅甸主权并不矛盾,中国尊重缅甸主权,中国同样要求其必须遵守和民地武的历史协议。他自己以前和民地武有那些协议,就不要怪中国用这些出手。

划线的你在看,先丢开主观对错


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superloong 发表于 2015-7-23 02:19
那中国就正式承认克钦邦地位。这样就合法了。缅甸给脸不要脸,那中国也可以硬来,中国说合法就合法,因 ...
关键克钦这群人中国也不喜欢,他们对咱们境内的景颇族也在渗透,就像瓦哈比渗透回族等民族那样,在一些景颇族聚居区可以没有政府不能没有牧师(参考沙甸)。
尊重克钦自治权和尊重缅甸主权并不矛盾。
问题是政府不认可自治,所以我们跟自治谈的条件不一定在政府那有用,说难听的,搞不好回扣都要给双份

剑神阿呆 发表于 2015-7-23 02:30
划线的你在看,先丢开主观对错
你的回复是什么意思?你的意思是缅甸做扣给我们?
剑神阿呆 发表于 2015-7-23 02:31
问题是政府不认可自治,所以我们跟自治谈的条件不一定在政府那有用,说难听的,搞不好回扣都要给双份

他不认可有鸟用。我们认可就行。就要说缅甸政府撕毁了协议。是不是认可,不是军政府说了算。本质就是我们现在愿不愿意和缅甸翻脸的问题。
你的回复是什么意思?你的意思是缅甸做扣给我们?

意思是那里隐晦的说明了当确违反了缅甸法律。同时也没有人告诉过他们不许伐了,

他不认可有鸟用。我们认可就行。就要说缅甸政府撕毁了协议。是不是认可,不是军政府说了算。本质就是我 ...
这是霸权主义,不可能这样干,中国领导的模式是带领大家赚钱,

明显是缅甸内部冲突,缅甸政府拿中国人杀鸡儆猴,中国必须得让缅甸政府知道,中国人不是它所想的“鸡”,中国要介入缅甸内部,手段多的是。

剑神阿呆 发表于 2015-7-23 02:42
这是霸权主义,不可能这样干,中国领导的模式是带领大家赚钱,


什么霸权主义,150多人被人故意挑事判无期的霸权主义?
少来说什么缅甸法律,民地武和军政府历史上都有协议。香港在50年内也有不一样的法律。
克钦几十年来一直事实上就是自治的,一直是事实自治,几十年来一直这样,缅甸军政府今天才来跟中国说违反了他的法律,把中国当猴耍吗?
剑神阿呆 发表于 2015-7-23 02:42
这是霸权主义,不可能这样干,中国领导的模式是带领大家赚钱,


什么霸权主义,150多人被人故意挑事判无期的霸权主义?
少来说什么缅甸法律,民地武和军政府历史上都有协议。香港在50年内也有不一样的法律。
克钦几十年来一直事实上就是自治的,一直是事实自治,几十年来一直这样,缅甸军政府今天才来跟中国说违反了他的法律,把中国当猴耍吗?
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剑神阿呆 发表于 2015-7-23 02:54
那人为什么给政府军扣了?而不是民地武装?以前是默认,现在人家不干了不行?有把炳在别人手就要夹尾巴,这 ...


干不干不是军政府说了算,是不是把柄也不是军政府说了算。中国也没有说香港50内和大陆法律不一样,现在不想干了,马上要弄成一样的。
谁是谁的把柄,根本不是军政府说了算。心理上输了,就已经输了。心理上认为是对方的把柄,就真的是对方的把柄。既然他要宣战样的挑衅,那就对军政府硬来,看看到底谁是谁的把柄。
不要以为低三下气就可以换来军政府恩赐。不能挽回的还在那里刻舟求剑,只会失去更多。如果军政府早就铁了心倒向美日,就已经是个无底洞,抱幻想只会让军政府有机会送更多投名状。
剑神阿呆 发表于 2015-7-23 02:54
那人为什么给政府军扣了?而不是民地武装?以前是默认,现在人家不干了不行?有把炳在别人手就要夹尾巴,这 ...


干不干不是军政府说了算,是不是把柄也不是军政府说了算。中国也没有说香港50内和大陆法律不一样,现在不想干了,马上要弄成一样的。
谁是谁的把柄,根本不是军政府说了算。心理上输了,就已经输了。心理上认为是对方的把柄,就真的是对方的把柄。既然他要宣战样的挑衅,那就对军政府硬来,看看到底谁是谁的把柄。
不要以为低三下气就可以换来军政府恩赐。不能挽回的还在那里刻舟求剑,只会失去更多。如果军政府早就铁了心倒向美日,就已经是个无底洞,抱幻想只会让军政府有机会送更多投名状。
尊重国家主权是基本,缅甸政府是缅甸唯一合法政府,去那边讨生活就该预估风险,这次只能看国家影响力和外 ...
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尊重国家主权是基本,缅甸政府是缅甸唯一合法政府,去那边讨生活就该预估风险,这次只能看国家影响力和外 ...
你家县政府要是给你一张工程承包合同,然后被中央政府认定为非法

你说这是你自己违法还说你们县政府违法?
尊重国家主权是基本,缅甸政府是缅甸唯一合法政府,去那边讨生活就该预估风险,这次只能看国家影响力和外 ...
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