印度催促俄罗斯加快五代机的交付,称没法一直等下去

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三泰虎11月25日译文,普京总统下月初访问印度前夕,印度要求俄罗斯给出一个计划,大幅减少五代隐形机的交付时间。目前,该计划是两国签署最终设计和研发合同后94个月,而且是最快94个月后,印度才能服役隐形机。而合同的签署已经拖延了两年多。“俄罗斯已经被告知,印度无法等上10年才能得到五代机。交付计划应该被压缩,不能让印度空军等到2024-2025年。普京来访时,俄罗斯人可能会做出回应。”国防部消息人士说。

译文来源:三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com
外文标题:Can’t keep waiting for stealth fighter, India tells Russia
外文地址:http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Cant-keep-waiting-for-stealth-fighter-India-tells-Russia/articleshow/45266276.cms

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NEW DELHI: Ahead of President Vladimir Putin’s visit here early next month, India has told Russia to come back with a plan to substantially reduce the delivery timeframe for the stealth fifth-generation fighter aircraft (FGFA) if it wants to seal the futuristic project by next year.

The plan till now was that India would begin inducting the stealth fighters only 94 months — at the earliest — after the two countries inked the final design and R&D contract, which itself has already been delayed by over two years by now.

普京总统下月初访问印度前夕,印度要求俄罗斯给出一个计划,大幅减少五代隐形机的交付时间。目前,该计划是两国签署最终设计和研发合同后94个月,而且是最快94个月后,印度才能服役隐形机。而合同的签署已经拖延了两年多。

“Russia has now been told that India cannot wait for a decade to get the FGFA. The delivery schedules should be compressed instead of IAF waiting for the FGFA till 2024-2025. The Russians will probably respond during Putin’s visit,” a defence ministry source said on Monday.

“俄罗斯已经被告知,印度无法等上10年才能得到五代机。交付计划应该被压缩,不能让印度空军等到2024-2025年。普京来访时,俄罗斯人可能会做出回应。”国防部消息人士说。

As was first reported by TOI, India is already upset with Russia for not giving its experts “full technological access” to the FGFA project despite being an equal funding partner. The final design contract, which is yet to be inked after missing the mid-2012 deadline, envisages the two countries chipping in with $5.5 billion each towards designing, infrastructure build-up, prototype development and flight testing.

正如印度时报首次报道的,印度已经对俄罗斯不允许印度专家全面接触五代机项目的技术感到沮丧,尽管印度是同等的出资伙伴。最终的设计合同,错过了2012年中期的截止期限,设想两国各自出资55亿美元,用于隐形机的设计、基础设施的建设、原型机的研发和试飞。

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以下是《印度时报》读者的评论:

译文来源:三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com/2014112504.html

Immanuel Nadar (Unknown)
Seeing our successful Mars mission I believe soon we too will be developing our own Hi tech fighter planes better than other countries.

看了我们的火星探测任务获得成功后,我相信我们很快会研发出比其他国家先进的高科技战机



Abhishek Nair (Ernakulam)
Yes its a must, 10 year is a too much time, must be finished maximum by three, its better to spend money for technology transfer too.

是的,这是必须的,10年太久了,必须在3年内完成,最好花钱让俄罗斯转移技术



patsaisonpatsaison ()
Buy from US, get the F-35, only maybe $100-150 million a piece.

向美国买F-35战机吧,一架或许才1亿到1.5亿美元

ullas nair (ROK) replies to patsaison
any specail offer to buy two F-35?

买两架是否有优惠?



Mahendra India (India)
Putin must take this deal very seriously if it wants to see a mutual partner in India for lifetime.

如果俄罗斯想要拥有终生共同协作的伙伴,普京就得认真看待这个协议。



Ganesh Dubey (Mumbai, Maharashtra)
Russia is al time real friend so dealing must be very very polite

俄罗斯是久经考验的朋友,必须礼貌待之



sanatansanatan (ldh)
Yes, as the technology advances day by day, what will be the use of it if not delivered on time?

是的,随着技术日新月异,不能按时交付的话,那有什么用?



Dr.Anant GautamDr.Anant Gautam (bangalore)
ha ha ha….useless people….cdnt make their own jet in over 30years and want others to speed up…

哈哈,一群废物,自己30多年了都没造出飞机,居然催别人加快速度



JKVR SETTY (Mysooru)
Lets develope ourself.

让我们自主研发吧

Vivek Dobhal (Dehra Dun, India)
It is our fault because we tolerated the delays in past, now Russia had made this as a habit. We should give strong signals or cancel the project, there are many in market.

这是我们自己的错,过去我们一直容忍俄罗斯拖延,现在俄罗斯已经养成了习惯。

我们应该给出强硬的信号,或者取消项目



chetan pais (Bangalore)
Our dear PM Modiji should intervene and sort out the matter at the earliest.

我们亲爱的莫迪总理应该予以干预,尽快解决这个问题



F you (New Zealand)
CANCEL THE CONTRACT — START BUILDING WITH ISRAEL

取消项目,同以色列一起造五代机

Abhishek Nair (Ernakulam) replies to Fuck you
But Russia is always there to help India, we cannot ignore them simply

俄罗斯总是乐于帮助印度,我们不能简单无视他们了事



heemans S (Mumbai)
It is high time that India done away with Soviet era deals with Russia. It has been supplying us outdated products and technologies at an exorbitant price

印度早该废除苏联时代的协议,俄罗斯一直以高昂价格向我们供应过时的产品和技术



Harshad Trivedi (Rochester, New York)
Why cant India change its strategy of buying from USA instead of Russia? Russian maal is as good as Chinese….unreliable !

为什么印度就不改变策略,转而向美国购买武器?俄罗斯货跟中国货一样不可靠!



deepak varshney ()
come on India, make all things of your own.

拜托,每一样东西都要自己造啊



Vinod (Delhi)
Russians are known for delays and midway price increase. Admiral Gorshkov war ship re-fit is an example. From 800 million to 2.35 billion. Russia should only be second choice for arms purchase.

俄罗斯人办事拖拖拉拉以及中途提高价格是出了名的。戈尔什科夫号航母的翻新就是个例子。从8亿美元抬高到23.5亿美元。

就武器采购而言,俄罗斯应该是第二选择



Survivor SSurvivor S ()
Hope in future India can make its own aircraft of the sort

希望印度未来会造这种先进的战机



Mumbaikar (Mumbai)
No one can wait indefinitely

任何人都受不了无限期的等待



Srinivasan Sampathkumar (Davangere
The long standing relationship with Russia must be continued.

印俄之间的长久友谊必须继续下去



nagender (gurgaon)
There is no alternate to self reliance..

看来独立自主是不二选择



mpa Abraham (Location)
Sorry, Putin is busy manufacturing arms for rebels in Ukraine !

抱歉,普京忙着为乌克兰叛乱武装造武器呢!三泰虎11月25日译文,普京总统下月初访问印度前夕,印度要求俄罗斯给出一个计划,大幅减少五代隐形机的交付时间。目前,该计划是两国签署最终设计和研发合同后94个月,而且是最快94个月后,印度才能服役隐形机。而合同的签署已经拖延了两年多。“俄罗斯已经被告知,印度无法等上10年才能得到五代机。交付计划应该被压缩,不能让印度空军等到2024-2025年。普京来访时,俄罗斯人可能会做出回应。”国防部消息人士说。

译文来源:三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com
外文标题:Can’t keep waiting for stealth fighter, India tells Russia
外文地址:http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Cant-keep-waiting-for-stealth-fighter-India-tells-Russia/articleshow/45266276.cms

73168386

NEW DELHI: Ahead of President Vladimir Putin’s visit here early next month, India has told Russia to come back with a plan to substantially reduce the delivery timeframe for the stealth fifth-generation fighter aircraft (FGFA) if it wants to seal the futuristic project by next year.

The plan till now was that India would begin inducting the stealth fighters only 94 months — at the earliest — after the two countries inked the final design and R&D contract, which itself has already been delayed by over two years by now.

普京总统下月初访问印度前夕,印度要求俄罗斯给出一个计划,大幅减少五代隐形机的交付时间。目前,该计划是两国签署最终设计和研发合同后94个月,而且是最快94个月后,印度才能服役隐形机。而合同的签署已经拖延了两年多。

“Russia has now been told that India cannot wait for a decade to get the FGFA. The delivery schedules should be compressed instead of IAF waiting for the FGFA till 2024-2025. The Russians will probably respond during Putin’s visit,” a defence ministry source said on Monday.

“俄罗斯已经被告知,印度无法等上10年才能得到五代机。交付计划应该被压缩,不能让印度空军等到2024-2025年。普京来访时,俄罗斯人可能会做出回应。”国防部消息人士说。

As was first reported by TOI, India is already upset with Russia for not giving its experts “full technological access” to the FGFA project despite being an equal funding partner. The final design contract, which is yet to be inked after missing the mid-2012 deadline, envisages the two countries chipping in with $5.5 billion each towards designing, infrastructure build-up, prototype development and flight testing.

正如印度时报首次报道的,印度已经对俄罗斯不允许印度专家全面接触五代机项目的技术感到沮丧,尽管印度是同等的出资伙伴。最终的设计合同,错过了2012年中期的截止期限,设想两国各自出资55亿美元,用于隐形机的设计、基础设施的建设、原型机的研发和试飞。

Img257529371

以下是《印度时报》读者的评论:

译文来源:三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com/2014112504.html

Immanuel Nadar (Unknown)
Seeing our successful Mars mission I believe soon we too will be developing our own Hi tech fighter planes better than other countries.

看了我们的火星探测任务获得成功后,我相信我们很快会研发出比其他国家先进的高科技战机



Abhishek Nair (Ernakulam)
Yes its a must, 10 year is a too much time, must be finished maximum by three, its better to spend money for technology transfer too.

是的,这是必须的,10年太久了,必须在3年内完成,最好花钱让俄罗斯转移技术



patsaisonpatsaison ()
Buy from US, get the F-35, only maybe $100-150 million a piece.

向美国买F-35战机吧,一架或许才1亿到1.5亿美元

ullas nair (ROK) replies to patsaison
any specail offer to buy two F-35?

买两架是否有优惠?



Mahendra India (India)
Putin must take this deal very seriously if it wants to see a mutual partner in India for lifetime.

如果俄罗斯想要拥有终生共同协作的伙伴,普京就得认真看待这个协议。



Ganesh Dubey (Mumbai, Maharashtra)
Russia is al time real friend so dealing must be very very polite

俄罗斯是久经考验的朋友,必须礼貌待之



sanatansanatan (ldh)
Yes, as the technology advances day by day, what will be the use of it if not delivered on time?

是的,随着技术日新月异,不能按时交付的话,那有什么用?



Dr.Anant GautamDr.Anant Gautam (bangalore)
ha ha ha….useless people….cdnt make their own jet in over 30years and want others to speed up…

哈哈,一群废物,自己30多年了都没造出飞机,居然催别人加快速度



JKVR SETTY (Mysooru)
Lets develope ourself.

让我们自主研发吧

Vivek Dobhal (Dehra Dun, India)
It is our fault because we tolerated the delays in past, now Russia had made this as a habit. We should give strong signals or cancel the project, there are many in market.

这是我们自己的错,过去我们一直容忍俄罗斯拖延,现在俄罗斯已经养成了习惯。

我们应该给出强硬的信号,或者取消项目



chetan pais (Bangalore)
Our dear PM Modiji should intervene and sort out the matter at the earliest.

我们亲爱的莫迪总理应该予以干预,尽快解决这个问题



F you (New Zealand)
CANCEL THE CONTRACT — START BUILDING WITH ISRAEL

取消项目,同以色列一起造五代机

Abhishek Nair (Ernakulam) replies to Fuck you
But Russia is always there to help India, we cannot ignore them simply

俄罗斯总是乐于帮助印度,我们不能简单无视他们了事



heemans S (Mumbai)
It is high time that India done away with Soviet era deals with Russia. It has been supplying us outdated products and technologies at an exorbitant price

印度早该废除苏联时代的协议,俄罗斯一直以高昂价格向我们供应过时的产品和技术



Harshad Trivedi (Rochester, New York)
Why cant India change its strategy of buying from USA instead of Russia? Russian maal is as good as Chinese….unreliable !

为什么印度就不改变策略,转而向美国购买武器?俄罗斯货跟中国货一样不可靠!



deepak varshney ()
come on India, make all things of your own.

拜托,每一样东西都要自己造啊



Vinod (Delhi)
Russians are known for delays and midway price increase. Admiral Gorshkov war ship re-fit is an example. From 800 million to 2.35 billion. Russia should only be second choice for arms purchase.

俄罗斯人办事拖拖拉拉以及中途提高价格是出了名的。戈尔什科夫号航母的翻新就是个例子。从8亿美元抬高到23.5亿美元。

就武器采购而言,俄罗斯应该是第二选择



Survivor SSurvivor S ()
Hope in future India can make its own aircraft of the sort

希望印度未来会造这种先进的战机



Mumbaikar (Mumbai)
No one can wait indefinitely

任何人都受不了无限期的等待



Srinivasan Sampathkumar (Davangere
The long standing relationship with Russia must be continued.

印俄之间的长久友谊必须继续下去



nagender (gurgaon)
There is no alternate to self reliance..

看来独立自主是不二选择



mpa Abraham (Location)
Sorry, Putin is busy manufacturing arms for rebels in Ukraine !

抱歉,普京忙着为乌克兰叛乱武装造武器呢!


三哥你还是先把钱付了吧,2亿多美元的启动款都只听到响没见到钢崩——合同的签署已经拖延了两年多

何况毛子要的是110亿美元研制经费分摊一半,还没算飞机的价钱呢

三哥你还是先把钱付了吧,2亿多美元的启动款都只听到响没见到钢崩——合同的签署已经拖延了两年多

何况毛子要的是110亿美元研制经费分摊一半,还没算飞机的价钱呢
中国搞出了歼20和FC31让三哥着急了
钱到位了么..
甘地辛格们红包到位下去了,穆迪两眼红光的上来了,那个“还要拖到什么时候啊”
毛子说:想加快进度要加钱
加钱呗。。。
不想等就掏钱啊!
India: I can’t keep waiting for stealth fighter, please hurry!
Russia: You can you up, no can no BB!
我觉得还是买FC31更靠谱
F-16T 发表于 2014-11-25 17:18
我觉得还是买FC31更靠谱
兔子有也不卖三哥
话说三哥的阵风有着落没?
法国佬已被三哥给坑死,说好的100多架阵风没了下文。
交钱加速度。。
不是说好联合研制的嘛,就是三哥你拖进度啊,哈哈。
法国佬已被三哥给坑死,说好的100多架阵风没了下文。
莫迪还允许增加国防工业中的外国投资,据说,他的政府计划年内签署购买126架“阵风”战斗机的合同。


http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/2014-11-24/0852812332.html
饱食而乱喷 发表于 2014-11-25 18:44
莫迪还允许增加国防工业中的外国投资,据说,他的政府计划年内签署购买126架“阵风”战斗机的合同。


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三哥的将也不知道是什么时候。达索都被迫抛售和转让股份了好像,还不是被三哥给拖的
话说三哥到底给T50投资没有?
加急签证都得加钱,更何况造个飞机呢,是吧
毛子交给三哥的第一批T50,能配个什么水平的花动机?
话说三哥到底给T50投资没有?
话说三哥投资的是FGFA,现在的茅屋貌似没三哥神马事儿
关键三哥什么时候把说好的资金打到账
三哥自己别总是“将”好吧,达索已经等你很久了
话说法国扣毛子的船是不是让毛子施压三哥快签协议啊
毛子和阿三闹翻了才好啊,。。。毛子卖T50也是对中不怀好意,,想用阿三制衡中。。希望下次普去阿三那出点事好啊,阿三国内的驴教或者基地分支行动起来。。。。。
大家放心,阿三等50年也要等到扁27的,毛子压根就吃定了阿三的尿性,天生习惯慢节拍的低贱货,哈哈

涡轮 发表于 2014-11-25 19:17
话说三哥投资的是FGFA,现在的茅屋貌似没三哥神马事儿


FGFA也就是俄罗斯的机体+西方的航电

西方和俄罗斯关系现在是冷战后前所未有的冷... 西方正对俄罗斯进行军事禁运,先进航电肯定在禁售范畴;就算放到印度装也需要双方密切配合,北约跑到印度看毛子机体的秘密,毛子跑到印度看北约航电的秘密 ...

这两个国家都在找台阶想下车时好看吧
涡轮 发表于 2014-11-25 19:17
话说三哥投资的是FGFA,现在的茅屋貌似没三哥神马事儿


FGFA也就是俄罗斯的机体+西方的航电

西方和俄罗斯关系现在是冷战后前所未有的冷... 西方正对俄罗斯进行军事禁运,先进航电肯定在禁售范畴;就算放到印度装也需要双方密切配合,北约跑到印度看毛子机体的秘密,毛子跑到印度看北约航电的秘密 ...

这两个国家都在找台阶想下车时好看吧
看到“让我们自主研发吧”这一句,我还是忍不住笑了
至于买F35……价格先不说,现在下单要排到什么时候才有啊,前面还有一票合作伙伴的购买国呢
阿三即使现在改变主意买F-35,等其国内、美国都通过后还得排队,绝不会比T-50早拿到! 听说天朝丝带最晚2018入役,阿三心里急呀!
取消的话那钱不是打水漂了,喜闻乐见~
自己说好的钱钱没到位,还好意思叫毛子付出?兔子整高铁要小心啊
a7020274 发表于 2014-11-25 17:23
话说三哥的阵风有着落没?
看来是黄了
翼翔 发表于 2014-11-25 18:53
话说三哥到底给T50投资没有?
有,投资T50的2亿美刀款大部分款项付了!
什么“阵风”、什么T-50都是陪衬,日后主位铁定F-35I坐。
2017年 估计有那么几架了   上量得2020年 ioc得2025年以后了   小毛子估计也是那么个时间段  
有,投资T50的2亿美刀款大部分款项付了!
2亿刀就想毛子交货三哥没病吧
毛子交给三哥的第一批T50,能配个什么水平的花动机?
装个发条,上弦的