难兄难弟,BAE称阿联酋不再与英国就出售台风进行谈判

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阵风前几天刚被巴西拒之门外,阿联酋也不见英国人了

瑞典人很高兴,巴西采购36架JAS-39决定公布后,萨伯公司股价一天上涨34%

http://www.businessweek.com/news ... di-pact-drags-out-1
BAE Systems Plc (BA/) said the United Arab Emirates halted talks to buy Eurofighter Typhoon combat jets worth more than $6 billion, dealing a blow to Europe’s largest defense contractor as it seeks to add export sales.

“The U.A.E. have advised that they have elected not to proceed with these proposals at this time,” London-based BAE Systems said in a statement today after the market close. The company added that it “stands ready” to revive talks.

Negotiations are also delayed with Saudi Arabia over Typhoon aircraft, the second straight year that BAE has failed to clinch that deal. BAE said earnings this year will be clipped by 6 to 7 pence should it fail to agree on pricing.

“Good progress” has been made, and an accord in a “timely” manner would be reflected in 2013 results, it said.

Export deals are critical for Western defense companies to help offset an uncertain budget environment in the U.S. and muted spending on weapons in Europe. Saab AB (SAABB), the Swedish maker of the Gripen combat jet that competes with the Typhoon, yesterday won a competition in Brazil for 36 planes, prompting its stock to rise a record 34 percent.

Typhoon is the second European warplane to fall short in securing a deal with the United Arab Emirates for new jets. Dassault Aviation SA (AM), a previous front-runner in the competition, fell out of favor two years ago over contract talks. The U.S. has also provided information on the Boeing Co. F/A-18E/F Super Hornet to gauge interest in an export deal.
Political Backing

U.K. Prime Minister David Cameron last month visited the Dubai Air Show to lobby for the Typhoon, saying the jet “is clearly in the running here.” The U.A.E. was exploring the purchase of as many as 60 jets. BAE, along with Eurofighter partners European Aeronautic, Defence & Space Co. and Finmeccanica SpA (FNC), is also pursuing exports to Bahrain and Qatar.

BAE, which began a 1 billion-pound ($1.64 billion) share buyback this year, has said full implementation of the repurchase plans was contingent on concluding the Saudi deal.

Saudi Arabia and BAE are in talks over pricing of Typhoon jets that have already been sold, even as the parties explore an additional purchase of 48 to 72 additional units of the twin-engine fighters.

“BAE Systems’ long standing relationship with its much valued customer in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia remains excellent,” the company said.



阵风前几天刚被巴西拒之门外,阿联酋也不见英国人了

瑞典人很高兴,巴西采购36架JAS-39决定公布后,萨伯公司股价一天上涨34%

http://www.businessweek.com/news ... di-pact-drags-out-1
BAE Systems Plc (BA/) said the United Arab Emirates halted talks to buy Eurofighter Typhoon combat jets worth more than $6 billion, dealing a blow to Europe’s largest defense contractor as it seeks to add export sales.

“The U.A.E. have advised that they have elected not to proceed with these proposals at this time,” London-based BAE Systems said in a statement today after the market close. The company added that it “stands ready” to revive talks.

Negotiations are also delayed with Saudi Arabia over Typhoon aircraft, the second straight year that BAE has failed to clinch that deal. BAE said earnings this year will be clipped by 6 to 7 pence should it fail to agree on pricing.

“Good progress” has been made, and an accord in a “timely” manner would be reflected in 2013 results, it said.

Export deals are critical for Western defense companies to help offset an uncertain budget environment in the U.S. and muted spending on weapons in Europe. Saab AB (SAABB), the Swedish maker of the Gripen combat jet that competes with the Typhoon, yesterday won a competition in Brazil for 36 planes, prompting its stock to rise a record 34 percent.

Typhoon is the second European warplane to fall short in securing a deal with the United Arab Emirates for new jets. Dassault Aviation SA (AM), a previous front-runner in the competition, fell out of favor two years ago over contract talks. The U.S. has also provided information on the Boeing Co. F/A-18E/F Super Hornet to gauge interest in an export deal.
Political Backing

U.K. Prime Minister David Cameron last month visited the Dubai Air Show to lobby for the Typhoon, saying the jet “is clearly in the running here.” The U.A.E. was exploring the purchase of as many as 60 jets. BAE, along with Eurofighter partners European Aeronautic, Defence & Space Co. and Finmeccanica SpA (FNC), is also pursuing exports to Bahrain and Qatar.

BAE, which began a 1 billion-pound ($1.64 billion) share buyback this year, has said full implementation of the repurchase plans was contingent on concluding the Saudi deal.

Saudi Arabia and BAE are in talks over pricing of Typhoon jets that have already been sold, even as the parties explore an additional purchase of 48 to 72 additional units of the twin-engine fighters.

“BAE Systems’ long standing relationship with its much valued customer in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia remains excellent,” the company said.

欧洲双风在一个礼拜里一起疯了!
石油大亨里面,好像就沙特没有撤销采购。
下垂的鸭翼真难看
更多人要失业了。欧洲双风很难卖,有钱的国家买F-35,没钱的也买不起双风。
J10B赶紧去凑个份子啊,双风性能0.9,价格0.5还是有保障的

更多人要失业了
双风今次真的是伤风。
野生的战五渣 发表于 2013-12-20 16:02
J10B赶紧去凑个份子啊,双风性能0.9,价格0.5还是有保障的
先满足国内需求,自己都不够用怎么可能出口。
lightsun7 发表于 2013-12-20 16:00
更多人要失业了。欧洲双风很难卖,有钱的国家买F-35,没钱的也买不起双风。
巴西高价买鹰狮也不买阵风
sunmingchi 发表于 2013-12-20 15:58
下垂的鸭翼真难看
跟F4的下垂尾翼是一对
sunmingchi 发表于 2013-12-20 16:04
先满足国内需求,自己都不够用怎么可能出口。
J7换完就可以说是满足了,也就这两年的事
lightsun7 发表于 2013-12-20 16:00
更多人要失业了。欧洲双风很难卖,有钱的国家买F-35,没钱的也买不起双风。
阵风不是3哥家要了120架吗,不知道合同最后怎么样了。F35未出世就先阉了欧洲,未战先立功。
rogerkkk123 发表于 2013-12-20 16:11
阵风不是3哥家要了120架吗,不知道合同最后怎么样了。F35未出世就先阉了欧洲,未战先立功。
合同还没签,台风可以再争取一下。
rogerkkk123 发表于 2013-12-20 16:11
阵风不是3哥家要了120架吗,不知道合同最后怎么样了。F35未出世就先阉了欧洲,未战先立功。
阵风只是赢得竞标,没有签署采购合同

印度招标废标很平常,155毫米炮都不知道多少个轮回30年没落实了
扁舟子 发表于 2013-12-20 15:51
石油大亨里面,好像就沙特没有撤销采购。
图里的是意大利空军的
到现在也没弄明白巴西怎么想的,难道这个鹰狮NG的性能这么好?价格和阵风、台风都有一拼了。
kamille 发表于 2013-12-20 16:22
图里的是意大利空军的
我没说不是,我是找张台风图,阿联酋没买,所以基本没图。除非CG。

杀生丸 发表于 2013-12-20 16:22
到现在也没弄明白巴西怎么想的,难道这个鹰狮NG的性能这么好?价格和阵风、台风都有一拼了。


全寿命成本比双风低得多,光单发一项就省很多钱和油料费

冷战后,三代双发中型战斗机外销几乎无人待见,米格-29一样很惨,好像比重型机便宜一点人家宁可选苏-27,很贵的F-15都有不少单

美国空军选型,YF-17败给YF-16其实已经很说明问题了,财大气粗的米帝都如此
杀生丸 发表于 2013-12-20 16:22
到现在也没弄明白巴西怎么想的,难道这个鹰狮NG的性能这么好?价格和阵风、台风都有一拼了。


全寿命成本比双风低得多,光单发一项就省很多钱和油料费

冷战后,三代双发中型战斗机外销几乎无人待见,米格-29一样很惨,好像比重型机便宜一点人家宁可选苏-27,很贵的F-15都有不少单

美国空军选型,YF-17败给YF-16其实已经很说明问题了,财大气粗的米帝都如此
油霸们买飞机一是买个玩具放着,过几年后请库房时便宜倒给小巴这样的国家;二是交保护费,但英法现在以及将来能给谁提供保护?

所以双疯只能疯了。
四代机即将发售谁还买三代半,尤其是有钱的土豪王爷们
法国人可以找我们嘛,顺便推动下军售解禁。
sunmingchi 发表于 2013-12-20 15:58
下垂的鸭翼真难看
好像耷拉着耳朵,一看就是耙耳朵

nood01 发表于 2013-12-20 16:52
法国人可以找我们嘛,顺便推动下军售解禁。


法国人傲娇惯了,对华态度上一直没有德国务实,有大量商贸往来时都偷着卖幻影2000和拉斐特,结果大量合作被冻结,之后关系缓和已落后德国老远,雪铁龙和大众天差地别了

上星期总理专门跑巴西,结果被人涮了,今天又被默大妈打脸——真以为你是欧盟领袖了,在非洲清理自家殖民地还要我们欧盟掏钱?直接被德国给否了
http://lt.cjdby.net/thread-1762109-1-1.html
nood01 发表于 2013-12-20 16:52
法国人可以找我们嘛,顺便推动下军售解禁。


法国人傲娇惯了,对华态度上一直没有德国务实,有大量商贸往来时都偷着卖幻影2000和拉斐特,结果大量合作被冻结,之后关系缓和已落后德国老远,雪铁龙和大众天差地别了

上星期总理专门跑巴西,结果被人涮了,今天又被默大妈打脸——真以为你是欧盟领袖了,在非洲清理自家殖民地还要我们欧盟掏钱?直接被德国给否了
http://lt.cjdby.net/thread-1762109-1-1.html
杀生丸 发表于 2013-12-20 16:22
到现在也没弄明白巴西怎么想的,难道这个鹰狮NG的性能这么好?价格和阵风、台风都有一拼了。
据说是因为技术转让
下垂的鸭翼真难看
那不是鸭翼,是台风的胡子。
按理说台风的性能也不错,为啥外销就不受客户待见呢?13.gif
我看还是把M88-2和EJ-200贡献出来装在小龙上大家一起各发各的财!
莫名一年 发表于 2013-12-20 17:46
我看还是把M88-2和EJ-200贡献出来装在小龙上大家一起各发各的财!
EJ-200不错,M88-2还是算了。
不知道牛牛和公鸡有木有后悔
当年如果不散伙,欧洲战斗机的命运要好的多
野生的战五渣 发表于 2013-12-20 16:02
J10B赶紧去凑个份子啊,双风性能0.9,价格0.5还是有保障的
低估了,性能应该在1.0往上,双风毕竟十多年了!
欧洲双风很难卖,有钱的国家买F-35。。。
阵风台风一对好基友。
lightsun7 发表于 2013-12-20 16:00
更多人要失业了。欧洲双风很难卖,有钱的国家买F-35,没钱的也买不起双风。
定位和枭龙一样的尴尬......

翎羽 发表于 2013-12-20 17:07
法国人傲娇惯了,对华态度上一直没有德国务实,有大量商贸往来时都偷着卖幻影2000和拉斐特,结果大量合 ...


不是什么“傲娇”的事,那个幻影2000,法与中方谈了好久好久,费了很大的力,满怀希望的等待中方下单,结果黄了,当时大陆市场可没有现在这么庞大,这么说也不准确,准确点说是,当时大陆市场很小,年进口量很小。。。人家法国公司也要吃饭啊,法方很气愤,再加上WW出手阔绰,拉斐特后来是有巨额回扣纠纷的,法方后来好象退给WW一笔钱。。。

前几天看新闻,东风好象想入股雪铁龙,不是在大陆合资建厂啊,是真入大股、当大股东控股“傲娇”的法国雪铁龙啊,说不定以后叫东风雪铁龙、雪铁龙东风集团了,哈哈。。。“傲娇”的法国人确实是与“务实”的德国大众天差地别了,当大股东入股德国大众?目前恐怕没有可能吧。。。

从坛里的消息看,军事合作方面,“傲娇”的法国,比“务实”的德国,好象要“务实”得多吧。。。

生意就是生意,上纲上限就容易出偏差。。。
翎羽 发表于 2013-12-20 17:07
法国人傲娇惯了,对华态度上一直没有德国务实,有大量商贸往来时都偷着卖幻影2000和拉斐特,结果大量合 ...


不是什么“傲娇”的事,那个幻影2000,法与中方谈了好久好久,费了很大的力,满怀希望的等待中方下单,结果黄了,当时大陆市场可没有现在这么庞大,这么说也不准确,准确点说是,当时大陆市场很小,年进口量很小。。。人家法国公司也要吃饭啊,法方很气愤,再加上WW出手阔绰,拉斐特后来是有巨额回扣纠纷的,法方后来好象退给WW一笔钱。。。

前几天看新闻,东风好象想入股雪铁龙,不是在大陆合资建厂啊,是真入大股、当大股东控股“傲娇”的法国雪铁龙啊,说不定以后叫东风雪铁龙、雪铁龙东风集团了,哈哈。。。“傲娇”的法国人确实是与“务实”的德国大众天差地别了,当大股东入股德国大众?目前恐怕没有可能吧。。。

从坛里的消息看,军事合作方面,“傲娇”的法国,比“务实”的德国,好象要“务实”得多吧。。。

生意就是生意,上纲上限就容易出偏差。。。
歼10的挂载能力就是不如台风啊,但愿在歼10B上能有所突破
chengju1981 发表于 2013-12-20 15:43
欧洲双风在一个礼拜里一起疯了!
插手中东太多,必然被讨厌
宇宙囚犯611号 发表于 2013-12-20 17:35
按理说台风的性能也不错,为啥外销就不受客户待见呢?
1 漫天要价,自以为土豪女儿不愁嫁,结果成了剩女

2 90年代初,明明有兔子这大客户被MD忽悠了禁售,愣是把大单拱手让给苏霍伊
这真的是个大大的圣诞礼物。
萨伯公司股价一天上涨34%

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