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论坛地址:http://www.ltaaa.com/bbs/thread-245187-1-1.htmlricklude 5 days ago
I'm not getting involved in any arguments here.
All I wish to say, is a soldier recognizes another, regardless of where he is from or the politics of his country, as both have the exact same
I am highly impressed by the persistent personal action taken by the 9th's Capt. (Gu), to fight for the recognition of the men under his former command and to find their remains.
Truely, this man remained a "brother" well past the time of their deaths.

我可不想参与这儿的任何争论,我想说的是,英雄所见略同,不管他来自什么国家什么政治立场,这点都是相同的,尤其是9连队长谷子地为了之前在他手底下的兄弟们得到证明和承认的行为让我印象很深刻。
真的,即便他的兄弟已经走了但这个人仍然是他们的“兄弟”。(这条21个赞)

Billy Anderson 2 days ago
This comment has received too many negative votes
I would love to watch this movie, but!!!!! I refused to watch a movie that has the Communist as the good guys.. The TRUE Government of China are the Nationalists, which are sitting in Tawian.

我很高兴可以看这部电影,但!!!哥们拒绝把共产党描述成好人的电影。。真正的中国政府是在台湾的国民党 (此条评论反对过多已经被评为负面评论)

TheCh1nchin 3 hours ago
HAHAHA a lot of taiwanese think that the nationalists are bunch of illegal ruler that colonize their land after they lost the war.

哈哈哈哈哈 很多台湾人都把打输仗的国民党叫做非法的殖民统治者。(此条评论4个赞,回复上面那位)

KLMJJJJJ 17 hours ago
Great movie!! Value every life on this planet. Violence leads to more violence, lets use better and more humane ways to solve issues around the world.PS: If subtitles are needed,turn the caption on :)

非常棒的电影!!珍惜这个星球上的每个生命吧。暴力只会带来更多的暴力,让我们用更加人道的方式去解决全球各地的问题。PS:需要字幕的话,打开CC字幕就好啦:)

Jason Dessing 1 day ago
Fabulous battle action.  Excellent cinematography.

不可思议的战争片。极好的电影艺术。

numnutz457 2 days ago
Thankyou for sharing this wonderful movie with us, im not chinese but it made me cry, laugh and feel for these brave men on both sides who believed iin a better ChinaTing Hao!

非常感谢UP主分享这部杰作给我们,我不是中国人,但是我看哭了,笑了,还有感受到了那些为了一个更美好的中国而奋战的战士们的英勇。挺好!

CRySTaLSCL3AN 2 days ago
Such a inspirational movie !

多么鼓舞人心的一部电影!

AndroidGZS 2 days ago
If you actually watched this movie then you would know that the real good guys are the brave soldiers and not political standpoints. This movie doesn't really give an idea of who the "good guys" or "bad guys" are in terms of politics as there is little of it involved in the movie. So I suggest you get rid of that anti- China mentality of yours and just enjoy the story.

如果你真的看了这部电影的话,你就会明白真正的好人指的是那些英勇的战士们而不是什么政治观点,这部电影并没给出所谓的“好人”和“坏人”,这电影里根本就没包含很多的政治因素。所以 我还是建议你省省你那些反中心态吧,好好看电影吧。(回复之前有人说电影里共产党是好人 此条6个赞)

catastrophian 3 days ago
Beautiful film.

美丽的电影 (4个赞)

Arron Chen 4 days ago
First part is the Chinese civil, Nationalist VS Communist (1945-1949). The landmine scene part was Korean war(1950-1953), China supported North Korea, America supported south

第一部分是中国内战,国民党VS共产党,那个地雷的部分是朝鲜战争,中国支持朝鲜,美国支持韩国 (UP主解释电影背景,11个赞)

Hamish Priest 5 days ago
Excellent, Assembly a first class war movie. thanks.

碉堡了,集结号真可谓是一部上等之作。感谢!

Stefan Holbek 6 days ago
Yeah... well... all technical stuff... but this is simply a great quality movie describing soldiers! I DON'T fancy war... I encourage every man, woman or child to NOT pick up a weapon... even if they are threatened... or killed... if they don't...Just DON'T pick up weapons...War is SOOOOOOOOOOOO yesterday...But for SURE a good movie!!!!;O)

是的...好吧...全是些技术性的玩意儿啊...但是这真的是一部描写士兵的的伟大电影!我可不喜欢战争...我倡导每个男人,女人又或是小孩都不要去碰武器...即便是他们受到威胁的时候...甚至被杀...不要碰任何武器...战争已经太落伍了...但..当然这是一部好电影!!!

Paul Calonge 1 week ago
Very accurate in showing equipment. Loved seeing the Johnson rifle in the first scene. The US advisers posted with the CCP troops were Marines, and only the Marine Corps used the Johnson. The Marine term gung ho came from USMC personnel working with Chinese Communist Party forces during WW II

电影里的设备用的很准确啊.很喜欢第一部分场景的约翰逊半自动步枪,和中共有联系的正是美国海军陆战队派去的顾问,而美军里只有海军陆战队用约翰逊。二战里那些海陆术语还有人员正是从海军陆战人事部门过去协助中共军队的。(此条8个赞)

Paul Calonge 1 week ago
Should clariify a bit. Sun Yet Sen began the revolution against the Manchu Qing Dynasty in the early 1900s. At first the fledgeling Chinese Communist Party and The Kuomintang were allied, but Chiang Kai Shek and the Kuomintang split with The CCP (or CPC) in 1927. They fought an early civil war until the Japanese invasion starting in 1931. AFter an uneasy alliance during WW II, they resumed the civil war, with the CCP taking control of the Mainland in 1949. The landmine scene is Korean War.

必须澄清一点,孙中山1900年代早期就发动了推翻满清统治辛亥革命,刚刚开始的时候初出茅庐的中共和国民党可是盟友,但是1927年的时候蒋介石私自撕毁协议,且开始了一场内战直到1931的日本侵华战争。在二战里好不容易结盟之后他们又重新开始了内战,然后中共到1949年彻底掌控大陆。地雷的部分是朝鲜战争。(此条4个赞)

vasfal 1 week ago
Even the Taiwanese government has never claimed independence, and they actually say there is only one government of China as well, and you'd ever bothered to do research beyond what FOX news tells you, you'd know that.As for Tibet, the good of the people and what they want are two totally different things. China changed a backwater medieval state into a productive province, and look at your own country. China took a province. America stole all of its land from the British/Mexicans, Indians.

即便是台湾政府也从未声称要过独立,他们事实上说的是中国只能有一个合法政府,别一天到晚听FOX新闻瞎扯淡,你要是稍微做些调查你就会知道的。至于XZ,所谓好人和他们真正想要的东西是完全不同的。中国可是把一个像中世纪一般的地区变成了一个有生产力的省份。看看你自己的国家吧,中国只是多了一个省份。美国人全部国土可都是从英国人/墨西哥人和印第安人手里抢的。(回复之前有个ZD要XZ和TW读立的。。。此条20个赞)

375GTB 1 week ago
Are BOTH side wearing the SAME US M-1 HELMET??How the hell do you tell one from the other?

怎么两边都戴着美制M-1钢盔啊??这特么怎么能区分开的啊?

rj hall 1 week ago
Good movie.

好电影 (13个赞)

Jeffrey J. 2 weeks ago
This is a fabulous movie, on par or exceeding 'Saying Private Ryan.' I appreciate the person who posted it. Until recently, I was completely oblivious to the abundance of high-quality, compelling movies from China, Korea, Japan, and other Asian countries. The world would be a much better place if people broke off the shackles of rigid ideology with its attendant black and white dichotomous thinking. There is no political or cultural system that solves all human problems.

真的是一部杰作,和“拯救大兵瑞恩”有一拼甚至超越它。我很感谢上传的人。直到最近....我以前没注意到有那么多来自中,日,韩还有其他亚洲国家的高质量的电影。如果人们能打破那种僵化的黑白有色思维那么这个世界将变得更加美好。没什么政治或文化问题不能解决的。(此条31个赞)

Kenny Wong 2 weeks ago
I am a chinese american and I truly appreciate this movie for what it is, and I hope others will do the same. Heros are heros no matter what side they fight on, so even though I do not condone communism and Mao, I love the story.
我是一个美籍华人,我真的很感激这部电影,我也希望其他人能像我一样,无论他们为谁而战英雄终归是英雄。虽然我是受不了共产主义和老毛,但我爱这个故事。
Theo Capteijn 2 weeks ago
Mao was a disaster for China. Having millions and millions of deaths on his concience. Sorry, I have visited your country as a tourist. It looked beautifull and dirty all in one. Corrupted to the bone. I truly hope the Taiwanese never have to suffer under such a merciless dictatorship like The "Peoples" Republic. And may you people be truly free soon.

毛对于中国来说就是个灾难。因为他的心理问题中国死了成千上百万的人,对不起了 我之前以游客身份去过你们的国家,很美同时又很脏,贪污腐败到了骨子里。我真心希望台湾人能永远不要受到这一所谓“人民”共和国独裁暴政的统治。还有也希望你们中国人能早日获得自由。

Chris McPole 2 weeks ago
Political officer blown apart and this guy is not happy, was he his lover or something? ;)Damn, those commi movies are funny :D

指导员被炸成两截了,那人儿很不开心,是他情人还是怎么地?操,这些老共的片子真搞笑

CaptainKeating 2 weeks ago
Propaganda?? That guy is retarded. I love foreign war films because they show the emotional gritty stories of the everyday soldiers. Foreign films hardly filter out the horrible reality of war. Our American war movies are mostly just male models slaughtering faceless enemies who don't know how to aim their weapons.

政治宣传??这人就是个傻逼,我很喜欢外国战争片的原因是他们拍出了士兵们的日常情感和故事,外国电影通常很难过滤掉现实战争的残酷,而我们美国电影大多数都是些男模特般的演员去屠杀那些连瞄准都不知道且毫无表情的敌军。(回复有人说是政治宣传 此条28个赞)

sharad awasthi 2 weeks ago
political issues aside, its a beautiful movie. Thanks for the upload.

政治问题先放一边,这是一部很美的电影,感谢上传。

thomas golden 2 weeks ago
This was one of the best movies, I have ever seen.

我看过最好的电影之一。(4个赞)

rob clay 2 weeks ago
How the hell did some Chinese soldier manage to snag a 1941 Johnson rifle?!

这些中国士兵是特么怎么解决1941年产约翰逊半自动步枪卡壳的问题的?!

JapeAceMonkey 2 weeks ago
China would have been so much better if the communists lost this war.

要是共产党输了这场仗中国也许会更好。

Metallicajust 2 weeks ago
Saving private Ryan IS propaganda, but this movie feels more realistic to me.Great & sad movie :'(

拯救大兵瑞恩才是政治宣传,这部电影对于我来说更佳的真实。伟大且悲伤的片子:(

Ignaz Yu 2 weeks ago
Wonderful story. I am an Indonesian and respect all of the fallen heroes.

超棒的故事,我是印尼人,像那些逝去的英灵表达敬意!(5个赞)

madcram 3 weeks ago
How is this film communist propaganda? Is it only because the story is told from the perspective of a communist soldier? The movie is about a captain fighting for the recognition of his comrades. There is very little politics in this film. Saying this film is propaganda is like saying Saving Private Ryan is propaganda.

这片子怎么就成了共产党的宣传了? 就因为这个故事是从一个共产党士兵的角度来描写的?整部电影都只是在说连长为了他死去的同志们要一个承认和正面斗争的故事。片子里的政治成分真的很少。说这个电影是政治宣传就好比说拯救大兵瑞恩也是政治宣传一样。(回复有个人骂这部电影是政治宣传 此条评论27个赞)


Chris Mits 3 weeks ago
This movie is truly a masterpiece.Thank you uploader

这部影片真的是一部杰作。感谢UP主。(15个赞)

Aldizviski poudelky 1 month ago
well done comrade !!

做的好 同志!

JTelli786 1 month ago
Beautiful movie, I didn't plan to watch the whole thing, but I found myself an hour in and couldn't stop, thanks for uploading this, and by the way, judging from the description, how much experience do you have with China?

美丽的电影,本没打算看完,但不知不觉一个小时过去,却停不下来,感谢上传,对了 别从那些表面的描述来评价别人,你对中国又有多少了解呢?(7个赞)

vasfal 1 month ago
True, many countries in Europe did start from peasants, but they began industrializing during like the 1500s. China started in 1949. Europe had quite a bit of a head start.

对,许多欧洲国家的确从农耕社会开始,但他们早在1500年代就开始工业化了,中国从1949年才开始,欧洲可稍微早了些 (回复有人说中国落后欧洲,中国人不如白种人等等 此条6个赞)

odiouspariah 1 month ago
Regardless of what your beliefs are, this movie is great. Thanks for the upload! Much love, from the U.S.A

不管你所信奉的是什么,这都是一部伟大的电影,感谢上传!是真爱,来自大美利坚

abg zack 2 months ago
my salutation to captain Gu Zidi of the 9th regiment of his bravery. An awesome army movie

像谷子地和他9连的勇士们表达我的敬意。一部非常棒的战争电影。(4个赞)


PS:我一直很纠结,西方媒体到底把我们黑成什么了,导致他们那么仇红。

http://www.ltaaa.com/原创翻译:龙腾网 http://www.ltaaa.com 翻译:mr.e 转载请注明出处
论坛地址:http://www.ltaaa.com/bbs/thread-245187-1-1.htmlricklude 5 days ago
I'm not getting involved in any arguments here.
All I wish to say, is a soldier recognizes another, regardless of where he is from or the politics of his country, as both have the exact same
I am highly impressed by the persistent personal action taken by the 9th's Capt. (Gu), to fight for the recognition of the men under his former command and to find their remains.
Truely, this man remained a "brother" well past the time of their deaths.

我可不想参与这儿的任何争论,我想说的是,英雄所见略同,不管他来自什么国家什么政治立场,这点都是相同的,尤其是9连队长谷子地为了之前在他手底下的兄弟们得到证明和承认的行为让我印象很深刻。
真的,即便他的兄弟已经走了但这个人仍然是他们的“兄弟”。(这条21个赞)

Billy Anderson 2 days ago
This comment has received too many negative votes
I would love to watch this movie, but!!!!! I refused to watch a movie that has the Communist as the good guys.. The TRUE Government of China are the Nationalists, which are sitting in Tawian.

我很高兴可以看这部电影,但!!!哥们拒绝把共产党描述成好人的电影。。真正的中国政府是在台湾的国民党 (此条评论反对过多已经被评为负面评论)

TheCh1nchin 3 hours ago
HAHAHA a lot of taiwanese think that the nationalists are bunch of illegal ruler that colonize their land after they lost the war.

哈哈哈哈哈 很多台湾人都把打输仗的国民党叫做非法的殖民统治者。(此条评论4个赞,回复上面那位)

KLMJJJJJ 17 hours ago
Great movie!! Value every life on this planet. Violence leads to more violence, lets use better and more humane ways to solve issues around the world.PS: If subtitles are needed,turn the caption on :)

非常棒的电影!!珍惜这个星球上的每个生命吧。暴力只会带来更多的暴力,让我们用更加人道的方式去解决全球各地的问题。PS:需要字幕的话,打开CC字幕就好啦:)

Jason Dessing 1 day ago
Fabulous battle action.  Excellent cinematography.

不可思议的战争片。极好的电影艺术。

numnutz457 2 days ago
Thankyou for sharing this wonderful movie with us, im not chinese but it made me cry, laugh and feel for these brave men on both sides who believed iin a better ChinaTing Hao!

非常感谢UP主分享这部杰作给我们,我不是中国人,但是我看哭了,笑了,还有感受到了那些为了一个更美好的中国而奋战的战士们的英勇。挺好!

CRySTaLSCL3AN 2 days ago
Such a inspirational movie !

多么鼓舞人心的一部电影!

AndroidGZS 2 days ago
If you actually watched this movie then you would know that the real good guys are the brave soldiers and not political standpoints. This movie doesn't really give an idea of who the "good guys" or "bad guys" are in terms of politics as there is little of it involved in the movie. So I suggest you get rid of that anti- China mentality of yours and just enjoy the story.

如果你真的看了这部电影的话,你就会明白真正的好人指的是那些英勇的战士们而不是什么政治观点,这部电影并没给出所谓的“好人”和“坏人”,这电影里根本就没包含很多的政治因素。所以 我还是建议你省省你那些反中心态吧,好好看电影吧。(回复之前有人说电影里共产党是好人 此条6个赞)

catastrophian 3 days ago
Beautiful film.

美丽的电影 (4个赞)

Arron Chen 4 days ago
First part is the Chinese civil, Nationalist VS Communist (1945-1949). The landmine scene part was Korean war(1950-1953), China supported North Korea, America supported south

第一部分是中国内战,国民党VS共产党,那个地雷的部分是朝鲜战争,中国支持朝鲜,美国支持韩国 (UP主解释电影背景,11个赞)

Hamish Priest 5 days ago
Excellent, Assembly a first class war movie. thanks.

碉堡了,集结号真可谓是一部上等之作。感谢!

Stefan Holbek 6 days ago
Yeah... well... all technical stuff... but this is simply a great quality movie describing soldiers! I DON'T fancy war... I encourage every man, woman or child to NOT pick up a weapon... even if they are threatened... or killed... if they don't...Just DON'T pick up weapons...War is SOOOOOOOOOOOO yesterday...But for SURE a good movie!!!!;O)

是的...好吧...全是些技术性的玩意儿啊...但是这真的是一部描写士兵的的伟大电影!我可不喜欢战争...我倡导每个男人,女人又或是小孩都不要去碰武器...即便是他们受到威胁的时候...甚至被杀...不要碰任何武器...战争已经太落伍了...但..当然这是一部好电影!!!

Paul Calonge 1 week ago
Very accurate in showing equipment. Loved seeing the Johnson rifle in the first scene. The US advisers posted with the CCP troops were Marines, and only the Marine Corps used the Johnson. The Marine term gung ho came from USMC personnel working with Chinese Communist Party forces during WW II

电影里的设备用的很准确啊.很喜欢第一部分场景的约翰逊半自动步枪,和中共有联系的正是美国海军陆战队派去的顾问,而美军里只有海军陆战队用约翰逊。二战里那些海陆术语还有人员正是从海军陆战人事部门过去协助中共军队的。(此条8个赞)

Paul Calonge 1 week ago
Should clariify a bit. Sun Yet Sen began the revolution against the Manchu Qing Dynasty in the early 1900s. At first the fledgeling Chinese Communist Party and The Kuomintang were allied, but Chiang Kai Shek and the Kuomintang split with The CCP (or CPC) in 1927. They fought an early civil war until the Japanese invasion starting in 1931. AFter an uneasy alliance during WW II, they resumed the civil war, with the CCP taking control of the Mainland in 1949. The landmine scene is Korean War.

必须澄清一点,孙中山1900年代早期就发动了推翻满清统治辛亥革命,刚刚开始的时候初出茅庐的中共和国民党可是盟友,但是1927年的时候蒋介石私自撕毁协议,且开始了一场内战直到1931的日本侵华战争。在二战里好不容易结盟之后他们又重新开始了内战,然后中共到1949年彻底掌控大陆。地雷的部分是朝鲜战争。(此条4个赞)

vasfal 1 week ago
Even the Taiwanese government has never claimed independence, and they actually say there is only one government of China as well, and you'd ever bothered to do research beyond what FOX news tells you, you'd know that.As for Tibet, the good of the people and what they want are two totally different things. China changed a backwater medieval state into a productive province, and look at your own country. China took a province. America stole all of its land from the British/Mexicans, Indians.

即便是台湾政府也从未声称要过独立,他们事实上说的是中国只能有一个合法政府,别一天到晚听FOX新闻瞎扯淡,你要是稍微做些调查你就会知道的。至于XZ,所谓好人和他们真正想要的东西是完全不同的。中国可是把一个像中世纪一般的地区变成了一个有生产力的省份。看看你自己的国家吧,中国只是多了一个省份。美国人全部国土可都是从英国人/墨西哥人和印第安人手里抢的。(回复之前有个ZD要XZ和TW读立的。。。此条20个赞)

375GTB 1 week ago
Are BOTH side wearing the SAME US M-1 HELMET??How the hell do you tell one from the other?

怎么两边都戴着美制M-1钢盔啊??这特么怎么能区分开的啊?

rj hall 1 week ago
Good movie.

好电影 (13个赞)

Jeffrey J. 2 weeks ago
This is a fabulous movie, on par or exceeding 'Saying Private Ryan.' I appreciate the person who posted it. Until recently, I was completely oblivious to the abundance of high-quality, compelling movies from China, Korea, Japan, and other Asian countries. The world would be a much better place if people broke off the shackles of rigid ideology with its attendant black and white dichotomous thinking. There is no political or cultural system that solves all human problems.

真的是一部杰作,和“拯救大兵瑞恩”有一拼甚至超越它。我很感谢上传的人。直到最近....我以前没注意到有那么多来自中,日,韩还有其他亚洲国家的高质量的电影。如果人们能打破那种僵化的黑白有色思维那么这个世界将变得更加美好。没什么政治或文化问题不能解决的。(此条31个赞)

Kenny Wong 2 weeks ago
I am a chinese american and I truly appreciate this movie for what it is, and I hope others will do the same. Heros are heros no matter what side they fight on, so even though I do not condone communism and Mao, I love the story.
我是一个美籍华人,我真的很感激这部电影,我也希望其他人能像我一样,无论他们为谁而战英雄终归是英雄。虽然我是受不了共产主义和老毛,但我爱这个故事。
Theo Capteijn 2 weeks ago
Mao was a disaster for China. Having millions and millions of deaths on his concience. Sorry, I have visited your country as a tourist. It looked beautifull and dirty all in one. Corrupted to the bone. I truly hope the Taiwanese never have to suffer under such a merciless dictatorship like The "Peoples" Republic. And may you people be truly free soon.

毛对于中国来说就是个灾难。因为他的心理问题中国死了成千上百万的人,对不起了 我之前以游客身份去过你们的国家,很美同时又很脏,贪污腐败到了骨子里。我真心希望台湾人能永远不要受到这一所谓“人民”共和国独裁暴政的统治。还有也希望你们中国人能早日获得自由。

Chris McPole 2 weeks ago
Political officer blown apart and this guy is not happy, was he his lover or something? ;)Damn, those commi movies are funny :D

指导员被炸成两截了,那人儿很不开心,是他情人还是怎么地?操,这些老共的片子真搞笑

CaptainKeating 2 weeks ago
Propaganda?? That guy is retarded. I love foreign war films because they show the emotional gritty stories of the everyday soldiers. Foreign films hardly filter out the horrible reality of war. Our American war movies are mostly just male models slaughtering faceless enemies who don't know how to aim their weapons.

政治宣传??这人就是个傻逼,我很喜欢外国战争片的原因是他们拍出了士兵们的日常情感和故事,外国电影通常很难过滤掉现实战争的残酷,而我们美国电影大多数都是些男模特般的演员去屠杀那些连瞄准都不知道且毫无表情的敌军。(回复有人说是政治宣传 此条28个赞)

sharad awasthi 2 weeks ago
political issues aside, its a beautiful movie. Thanks for the upload.

政治问题先放一边,这是一部很美的电影,感谢上传。

thomas golden 2 weeks ago
This was one of the best movies, I have ever seen.

我看过最好的电影之一。(4个赞)

rob clay 2 weeks ago
How the hell did some Chinese soldier manage to snag a 1941 Johnson rifle?!

这些中国士兵是特么怎么解决1941年产约翰逊半自动步枪卡壳的问题的?!

JapeAceMonkey 2 weeks ago
China would have been so much better if the communists lost this war.

要是共产党输了这场仗中国也许会更好。

Metallicajust 2 weeks ago
Saving private Ryan IS propaganda, but this movie feels more realistic to me.Great & sad movie :'(

拯救大兵瑞恩才是政治宣传,这部电影对于我来说更佳的真实。伟大且悲伤的片子:(

Ignaz Yu 2 weeks ago
Wonderful story. I am an Indonesian and respect all of the fallen heroes.

超棒的故事,我是印尼人,像那些逝去的英灵表达敬意!(5个赞)

madcram 3 weeks ago
How is this film communist propaganda? Is it only because the story is told from the perspective of a communist soldier? The movie is about a captain fighting for the recognition of his comrades. There is very little politics in this film. Saying this film is propaganda is like saying Saving Private Ryan is propaganda.

这片子怎么就成了共产党的宣传了? 就因为这个故事是从一个共产党士兵的角度来描写的?整部电影都只是在说连长为了他死去的同志们要一个承认和正面斗争的故事。片子里的政治成分真的很少。说这个电影是政治宣传就好比说拯救大兵瑞恩也是政治宣传一样。(回复有个人骂这部电影是政治宣传 此条评论27个赞)


Chris Mits 3 weeks ago
This movie is truly a masterpiece.Thank you uploader

这部影片真的是一部杰作。感谢UP主。(15个赞)

Aldizviski poudelky 1 month ago
well done comrade !!

做的好 同志!

JTelli786 1 month ago
Beautiful movie, I didn't plan to watch the whole thing, but I found myself an hour in and couldn't stop, thanks for uploading this, and by the way, judging from the description, how much experience do you have with China?

美丽的电影,本没打算看完,但不知不觉一个小时过去,却停不下来,感谢上传,对了 别从那些表面的描述来评价别人,你对中国又有多少了解呢?(7个赞)

vasfal 1 month ago
True, many countries in Europe did start from peasants, but they began industrializing during like the 1500s. China started in 1949. Europe had quite a bit of a head start.

对,许多欧洲国家的确从农耕社会开始,但他们早在1500年代就开始工业化了,中国从1949年才开始,欧洲可稍微早了些 (回复有人说中国落后欧洲,中国人不如白种人等等 此条6个赞)

odiouspariah 1 month ago
Regardless of what your beliefs are, this movie is great. Thanks for the upload! Much love, from the U.S.A

不管你所信奉的是什么,这都是一部伟大的电影,感谢上传!是真爱,来自大美利坚

abg zack 2 months ago
my salutation to captain Gu Zidi of the 9th regiment of his bravery. An awesome army movie

像谷子地和他9连的勇士们表达我的敬意。一部非常棒的战争电影。(4个赞)


PS:我一直很纠结,西方媒体到底把我们黑成什么了,导致他们那么仇红。

http://www.ltaaa.com/
其实仇红都是苏联干得好事。。。的确苏联干得坏事不少我们算是连坐了。。
昔日他们也算生活在红色恐怖之下了吧,只不过那恐怖不是我们制造的而已......
GCD输了那场战争还好?跟WW一样现在的政治状况一样?
也不能人家能完全了解咱的情况
也不能要求人家能完全了解咱的情况
西方人自己洗脑洗的更严重的。
zhangyifeiss 发表于 2013-10-22 12:02
其实仇红都是苏联干得好事。。。的确苏联干得坏事不少我们算是连坐了。。
也不好说,前几十年对内....,对外革命输出,谁会有好印象。
老外该诚恳和中立的时候还是挺好的~
论洗脑的能力tg简直弱爆了,跟白皮猪不是一个档次的
这片子其实讲的基本是人性,但在国内被骂得狗血喷头。不搞不懂某些人天天讲人性,确容不得他不喜欢的人讲人性
自己被洗脑了还怕别别人洗脑

finekey 发表于 2013-10-22 12:21
也不好说,前几十年对内....,对外革命输出,谁会有好印象。


几十年对内工业农业建设,对外影响力扩张,让一个本该是被瓜分、控制的对象,本来可以轻松掠夺的原料产地、产品倾销地、冷战炮灰——变成了参与争夺资源的有力竞争对手。

换了你是西方老牌列强们,你也会对中国感到十分不爽!


而如今越来越壮硕的那条龙,让他们更是不爽。只不过西方人也不得不面对现实了,因为都知道不但杀不死这条龙,而且自己的生存发展也离不开这条龙。
finekey 发表于 2013-10-22 12:21
也不好说,前几十年对内....,对外革命输出,谁会有好印象。


几十年对内工业农业建设,对外影响力扩张,让一个本该是被瓜分、控制的对象,本来可以轻松掠夺的原料产地、产品倾销地、冷战炮灰——变成了参与争夺资源的有力竞争对手。

换了你是西方老牌列强们,你也会对中国感到十分不爽!


而如今越来越壮硕的那条龙,让他们更是不爽。只不过西方人也不得不面对现实了,因为都知道不但杀不死这条龙,而且自己的生存发展也离不开这条龙。
其实仇红都是苏联干得好事。。。的确苏联干得坏事不少我们算是连坐了。。
那时候的无差别地图炮攻击啊!不过朝战也有影响因素的!
Superbow 发表于 2013-10-22 12:32
几十年对内工业农业建设,对外影响力扩张,一个本该是被瓜分、控制的对象,结果变成了参与争夺资源的对手 ...
80后的?
发现不少老外比很多中国人都理智。门户网站那些人才不管你是不是和政治有关,只要演的共党,打的国军,先给你扣个洗脑的帽子。两个大业被黑成啥样了

乌拉001 发表于 2013-10-22 12:30
这片子其实讲的基本是人性,但在国内被骂得狗血喷头。不搞不懂某些人天天讲人性,确容不得他不喜欢的人讲人 ...


部队讲的是执行力 —— 这在战场上就不能按“人性”来解释。

无论东方、西方,任何一支部队都不会接受“凭什么让我死守阵地掩护别人”的质问,命令就是命令——既然你来作为战士参战了!

在《拯救大兵瑞恩》里,米勒上尉的小队中也曾有人质问——“凭什么要让我们冒风险去救他(瑞恩)?!”但得到的回答就是“执行命令!!”——这个时候,用“人性”你讲得通么?你要这么讲“人性”的话,就甭打仗了!


《士兵突击》里,袁朗有过一段描述“我需要的战士,是热爱生命,又勇往直前的战士”——这才是一名战士“人性”的体现。——既然你选择了做战士!
乌拉001 发表于 2013-10-22 12:30
这片子其实讲的基本是人性,但在国内被骂得狗血喷头。不搞不懂某些人天天讲人性,确容不得他不喜欢的人讲人 ...


部队讲的是执行力 —— 这在战场上就不能按“人性”来解释。

无论东方、西方,任何一支部队都不会接受“凭什么让我死守阵地掩护别人”的质问,命令就是命令——既然你来作为战士参战了!

在《拯救大兵瑞恩》里,米勒上尉的小队中也曾有人质问——“凭什么要让我们冒风险去救他(瑞恩)?!”但得到的回答就是“执行命令!!”——这个时候,用“人性”你讲得通么?你要这么讲“人性”的话,就甭打仗了!


《士兵突击》里,袁朗有过一段描述“我需要的战士,是热爱生命,又勇往直前的战士”——这才是一名战士“人性”的体现。——既然你选择了做战士!
在中国水军的力量不容小视
GCD输了那场战争还好?跟WW一样现在的政治状况一样?
我支持Tg,无他。。。。就因为解放军是朱老四之后最能打的汉人为主体的军队。。。
zhangyifeiss 发表于 2013-10-21 23:02
其实仇红都是苏联干得好事。。。的确苏联干得坏事不少我们算是连坐了。。
仇红,应该说主要是麦卡锡主义的产物...不是靠苏联干多少坏事,而是靠美国媒体疯狂的宣传制造出来的。
finekey 发表于 2013-10-22 12:35
80后的?

即便是40年代出生的人,现在中国也有上亿。别以为啥事儿就你知道别人都不知道,呵呵,装蒜没用。有话说话,别玩这种把戏。
老外该诚恳和中立的时候还是挺好的~
骨子里的自大。很难消除的。    就是讨论出明白的结果也没用。理智和潜意识是不同的。反正我是这么感觉的。那种流露并不是有意为之或者刻意鄙视你。
迷璐 发表于 2013-10-22 12:40
我支持Tg,无他。。。。就因为解放军是朱老四之后最能打的汉人为主体的军队。。。
如果现在把WW的政治生态放大到中国大陆,基本上就是第二次“文革”的效应。。。
w85656528 发表于 2013-10-22 12:14
GCD输了那场战争还好?跟WW一样现在的政治状况一样?
对于西方来说是好,因为无能的好控制。
骨子里的自大。很难消除的。    就是讨论出明白的结果也没用。理智和潜意识是不同的。反正我是这么感觉的 ...
自己自信一点就好。。。。管别人怎么看干什么。。。。
finekey 发表于 2013-10-22 12:21
也不好说,前几十年对内....,对外革命输出,谁会有好印象。
百多年内都任你鱼肉,突然成了和你分一杯羹然后还时不时可以欺负你的存在,换谁都恨得慌的。
Superbow 发表于 2013-10-22 12:43
即便是40年代出生的人,现在中国也有上亿。别以为啥事儿就你知道别人都不知道,呵呵,装蒜没用。有话说 ...
知道就好,其实是担心现在的年轻人不知道。
现在的中国已经非常不错了。
w85656528 发表于 2013-10-22 12:14
GCD输了那场战争还好?跟WW一样现在的政治状况一样?
换做是你,你喜欢要一个有很大市场很多人口但是领导层对你至少表面上是言听计从见到你亮亮砂锅大的拳头就会膝盖发软赔笑脸的主,还是喜欢一个有很大市场很多人口但是领导层喜欢带人就算当了内裤也要跟你拼命并且你有好处丫就拿没有好处丫自己玩的主?
百多年内都任你鱼肉,突然成了和你分一杯羹然后还时不时可以欺负你的存在,换谁都恨得慌的。
如果外人认为我们是一个尚武好斗的红色邪恶帝国。。。。我觉得也没什么不好的。。。。至少比两脚羊好多了。。。。
general_j 发表于 2013-10-22 12:41
仇红,应该说主要是麦卡锡主义的产物...不是靠苏联干多少坏事,而是靠美国媒体疯狂的宣传制造出来的。
苏联......,即便是进入东北对日作战的x军,干的坏事还少吗?
只想说《集结号》是一部很不错的片子。
我也不待见这部电影,分明就是意识形态有问题!解放战争时期全军将士英勇奋战,别说忘了吹什么撤退集结号,就是事先下达一个掩护撤退的必死命令也无不争而用命!分明就是某些导演为了追随西方价值观、为了取悦洋人抹黑革命牺牲精神的无耻虚构之作!

finekey 发表于 2013-10-22 13:05
知道就好,其实是担心现在的年轻人不知道。
现在的中国已经非常不错了。


游戏条件:有限资源

游戏规则:丛林法则

————这就是这颗星球上的游戏。

我们参加游戏,只要不再是任人宰割,以中国之体量,自然就会让别“反感”——这是生物的本能。

换了我们是西方人,看到一个人口众多,发展极快,潜力巨大,而且祖上就曾是泱泱帝国,并且文明体系与西方完全不同,并且延续至今的国家正在迅速崛起——不反感都怪了!
finekey 发表于 2013-10-22 13:05
知道就好,其实是担心现在的年轻人不知道。
现在的中国已经非常不错了。


游戏条件:有限资源

游戏规则:丛林法则

————这就是这颗星球上的游戏。

我们参加游戏,只要不再是任人宰割,以中国之体量,自然就会让别“反感”——这是生物的本能。

换了我们是西方人,看到一个人口众多,发展极快,潜力巨大,而且祖上就曾是泱泱帝国,并且文明体系与西方完全不同,并且延续至今的国家正在迅速崛起——不反感都怪了!
finekey 发表于 2013-10-22 13:08
苏联......,即便是进入东北对日作战的x军,干的坏事还少吗?
在东北的苏军干的坏事不少,但绝对不比侵华日军干的坏事更多,你说不是么?呵呵

既然美国至今对日本依然如胶似漆,那么你觉得西方的这种“爱”与“恨”,真的和当年是否“干坏事”有关么??

PS:在东北的经历过1945的老人都记得苏军干过坏事,也记得苏军政委带着宪兵在大街上当街抓到违纪士兵就地枪毙的。相比之下,美军在日韩菲律宾干起坏事来,貌似没见被军事法庭怎么着吧
我看这个电影的时候还没有那么讨厌冯小刚
Superbow 发表于 2013-10-22 13:21
游戏条件:有限资源

游戏规则:丛林法则
问题是您可能不清楚,西方最反感中国的不是高速发展的现在,而是过去的那几十年。
你没看错 发表于 2013-10-22 13:20
我也不待见这部电影,分明就是意识形态有问题!解放战争时期全军将士英勇奋战,别说忘了吹什么撤退集结号, ...
西方价值观里面,也压根儿没有让战士在战场上自由“人性”的空间

否则仗就甭打了!
我记得很清楚,我是一个人去北京华星影院看的集结号,当时周围坐着一群白发老人,他们看的很有感觉,都默默地在抹眼泪,我也很受感染。
xy193130 发表于 2013-10-22 12:28
论洗脑的能力tg简直弱爆了,跟白皮猪不是一个档次的
就因为动不动就把政治正确放到台面上反复说
这片要是反复强调政治正确,连“中国士兵是可敬的”这种价值观都传播不过去

finekey 发表于 2013-10-22 13:26
问题是您可能不清楚,西方最反感中国的不是高速发展的现在,而是过去的那几十年。


过去几十年的中国让西方反感,就是因为没有像更早的过去一百年前那么任人宰割。

1949年之后的中国,比起1949年之前军阀混战、国力孱弱、民不聊生、蒙昧混乱的中国,西方围堵封锁的是前者,竞相支持勾结的是后者。

如今,对高速发展的中国,西方不是不反感,而是再也没有力量将反感“显性化”、“暴力化”而已。

你以为西方高兴中国来分享地球资源?

你以为西方乐于中国人抢夺工作岗位?

你以为西方愿意看到中国企业在全球攻城略地?

“中国人如果过上美国人一样的生活水平,那是这个世界(星球)无法承受的!”

                                      ——美国现任总统 巴拉克·侯赛因·奥巴马 于 澳大利亚出访期间


神马意识形态、普世价值标准,不过是一张能够冠冕堂皇竖起来的的牌坊而已,牌坊之下就是赤裸裸的生存竞争!
finekey 发表于 2013-10-22 13:26
问题是您可能不清楚,西方最反感中国的不是高速发展的现在,而是过去的那几十年。


过去几十年的中国让西方反感,就是因为没有像更早的过去一百年前那么任人宰割。

1949年之后的中国,比起1949年之前军阀混战、国力孱弱、民不聊生、蒙昧混乱的中国,西方围堵封锁的是前者,竞相支持勾结的是后者。

如今,对高速发展的中国,西方不是不反感,而是再也没有力量将反感“显性化”、“暴力化”而已。

你以为西方高兴中国来分享地球资源?

你以为西方乐于中国人抢夺工作岗位?

你以为西方愿意看到中国企业在全球攻城略地?

“中国人如果过上美国人一样的生活水平,那是这个世界(星球)无法承受的!”

                                      ——美国现任总统 巴拉克·侯赛因·奥巴马 于 澳大利亚出访期间


神马意识形态、普世价值标准,不过是一张能够冠冕堂皇竖起来的的牌坊而已,牌坊之下就是赤裸裸的生存竞争!