一战二战海军战列舰编队是如何编队的？

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视野良好时，航速与火力相近者排单纵队战列线;极端情况下有单独行动的例子

ddlucky 发表于 2012-11-5 20:13
视野良好时，航速与火力相近者排单纵队战列线;极端情况下有单独行动的例子
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ddlucky 发表于 2012-11-5 20:13
视野良好时，航速与火力相近者排单纵队战列线;极端情况下有单独行动的例子
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= = = == = = = = = =潜艇= = = = = = = = = == = =
是这样的么？

,摆成楼上这阵型？那战列舰对轰，小船船岂不是都得冤枉死？

busyman 发表于 2012-11-5 20:16
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= = = == = = = = = =驱逐舰= = = = = = = = = == = ...
潜艇能跟上舰队的速度？

一会儿一个人字，一会儿一个一字。

防潜z型是另外一个问题…

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队型不错…

日德兰海战中英国战列线的变换
http://www.cctvdream.com.cn/bbs/ ... thread&tid=4418

alaskaman 发表于 2012-11-5 20:38
,摆成楼上这阵型？那战列舰对轰，小船船岂不是都得冤枉死？
菜鸟- -~大神，求教~

sergeant_w2 发表于 2012-11-5 20:57
潜艇能跟上舰队的速度？
潜艇一般都是单独袭击或者是狼群战术是么？

ddlucky 发表于 2012-11-5 22:09
防潜z型是另外一个问题…
防潜不是在行进过程或者是原地待命时候么？在舰炮对轰的时候也需要防潜么？

ddlucky 发表于 2012-11-5 22:10
队型不错…
=。=自己想着玩的- -~

busyman 发表于 2012-11-8 22:04
潜艇一般都是单独袭击或者是狼群战术是么？
可以前出组成警戒线，但不会加入主力舰编队

貌似就算是战列舰列队对轰，其余的高速护航舰，也是会组成自己的战列线进行机动作战的说？

二战也基本是航母大战了战列舰起大作用的战役不多吧

busyman 发表于 2012-11-5 20:16
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潜艇就算了

busyman 发表于 2012-11-5 20:15
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你知道二战时潜艇的航速吗？

编队中无论如何不可能有潜艇。

busyman 发表于 2012-11-5 20:16
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= = = == = = = = = =驱逐舰= = = = = = = = = == = ...
刨掉潜艇，修改下就是无航母的防空轮形阵了~~

这个不懂，学习下～

我这个阵型谁能破？

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我这个阵型谁能破？

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防潜不是在行进过程或者是原地待命时候么？在舰炮对轰的时候也需要防潜么？
对轰时，军舰本来就在不停高速机动，潜艇很难锁定目标。

我这个阵型谁能破？驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱 ...
版主能破

busyman 发表于 2012-11-5 20:16
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不是，重巡/战巡为核心的小编队是耳目，前出到敌可能出现的海域侦查敌军动向，为主力编队以有利态势接敌提供信息

驱逐舰分若干群在主力编队周围晃荡，防止敌雷击舰靠近主力舰，同时也随时准备向敌发动雷击

潜艇一般是蹲坑打黑枪，水面舰艇跑起来很快就没影了

反潜&航行

               驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰

      驱逐舰

驱逐舰

驱逐舰          巡洋舰战列舰战列舰巡洋舰巡洋舰

驱逐舰          巡洋舰战列舰战列舰巡洋舰巡洋舰

驱逐舰

      驱逐舰

         驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰

反潜&航行

               驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰

      驱逐舰

驱逐舰

驱逐舰          巡洋舰战列舰战列舰巡洋舰巡洋舰

驱逐舰          巡洋舰战列舰战列舰巡洋舰巡洋舰

驱逐舰

      驱逐舰

         驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰

战斗中

驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰

巡洋舰巡洋舰战列舰战列舰战列舰战列舰巡洋舰巡洋舰巡洋舰巡洋舰

驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰

防空

                  驱逐舰    驱逐舰    驱逐舰

      驱逐舰    巡洋舰    巡洋舰    驱逐舰

  驱逐舰    巡洋舰    战列舰    战列舰    驱逐舰

  驱逐舰    巡洋舰    战列舰    战列舰    驱逐舰

      驱逐舰    巡洋舰    巡洋舰    驱逐舰

            驱逐舰    驱逐舰    驱逐舰

zyq0404 发表于 2012-11-9 10:03
战斗中

驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰

这就想当然了，别的不说，战列线对轰的时候，前面驱逐舰冒的烟就会严重干扰瞄准。当然，如果要跑路了，驱逐舰当然要出去放烟幕带撒鱼。

帖吧里面《巡航者》关于日德兰海战的帖子
巨舰喋血,名家手笔,大舰巨炮主义第一写手DANNYBOY经典力作!

海战中大T字的时候的战线图，看看战列线中间很空的

小弟们都到头尾和后面去了。

zyq0404 发表于 2012-11-9 10:03
战斗中

驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰

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小弟们都到头尾和后面去了。

rottenweed 发表于 2012-11-9 10:47
这就想当然了，别的不说，战列线对轰的时候，前面驱逐舰冒的烟就会严重干扰瞄准。当然，如果要跑路了， ...
就是大概意思一下，主力舰和护卫舰分组行动。

gulangyu 发表于 2012-11-9 08:14
我这个阵型谁能破？

驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱 ...
一颗原子弹，88咯

gulangyu 发表于 2012-11-9 08:14
我这个阵型谁能破？

驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱 ...
一发大磨菇。

Army_tof 发表于 2012-11-9 12:04
一发大磨菇。
这个属于开挂的，哈哈

gulangyu 发表于 2012-11-9 12:25
这个属于开挂的，哈哈
不用磨菇也成啊，
上战巡或快速战列舰，
巡洋舰杀手的名头不是白叫的。

busyman 发表于 2012-11-5 20:16
= = = == = = = = = =潜艇= = = = = = = = = == = =
= = = == = = = = = =驱逐舰= = = = = = = = = == = ...
除了一战时期K级潜艇和冷战时期的核潜艇，其他的潜艇很难跟得上主力舰队吧？

就算是二战日本的大型潜艇一般也是单独行动的

lifenggut 发表于 2012-11-9 01:56
二战也基本是航母大战了战列舰起大作用的战役不多吧
欧洲还有颇多BB BC CA CL们对轰的战例。其实太平洋战场对轰的战例也不少。看看铁底湾

zyq0404 发表于 2012-11-9 10:03
战斗中

驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰
小船的排烟会严重干扰BB的观瞄的这个显然是不可能的战斗队形。航渡还差不多

zyq0404 发表于 2012-11-9 10:10
防空

驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰
这个类似联合舰队当年的桶形队形。后来发展出了环形防空队形。在联合舰队将领中，山口多闻和小泽对编队防空颇有先见

zyq0404 发表于 2012-11-9 09:58
反潜&航行

驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰驱逐舰
4条BB 如果型号一样，或者性能差不多，多会呈一线纵队航渡，一旦遭遇敌情也便于变换队形接敌。因为巡洋舰航速普遍快于BB ，多数情况下，大编队中两个舰种不大会在一条战列现上吧？如果是小编队出航就另当别论。首相和上将就曾组成小编队出击

busyman 发表于 2012-11-5 20:16
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这显然是不可能的。潜艇的航速不可能跟上水面舰艇编队

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