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英国网友评论:中国J31战斗机试飞成功
2012年11月01日
英国网友评论中国歼31战斗机试飞成功。据英国《每日电讯报》11月1日报道,中国不到两年内推出的第二种隐形战机J31成功首飞。歼31战斗机正式代号为”鹘鹰“,是由中国沈阳飞机公司研发制造的第五代战机。歼31试飞成功也代表中国成为第二个同时拥有两种第五代原型机的国家,先前只有美国同时拥有F-22和F-35两种五代机。有的英国网友称中国J31战机使用的技术剽窃自先进国家;有的英国网友则称已经过时了,无人机才是未来趋势,所以F-22猛禽隐形战机才会停产。
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龙腾网版权所有 http://www.ltaaa.com原文标题:China 'makes first test flight' of new stealth fighter jet
原文链接:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ ... th-fighter-jet.html


中国歼31战斗机试飞成功(原文图片)



以下是英国网友的评论:

WorthSaying
The next generation of Chinese war planes will be in service for the next thirty years during which time china will build their own large aircraft carriers ( rather than re-fit old soviet ones) so you would expect there to be a naval variant of the J 31.
China will play to her strengths. She will use espionage, blackmail and bribery in order to get the technology required.
中国下一代战机将在未来30年里服役。在该期间,中国会自主建造大型航母(不是翻新苏联的旧航母),所以J31的海军版本值得期待。
中国会发挥自身特长,利用间谍、敲诈和贿赂等手段获得需要的技术。

johngt
At least the Chinese have been spared all those silly R&D costs. Why design and invent when you can simply 'use' other country's designs.
中国人至少省去了研发费用。既然可以简单”使用“其他国家的设计,为什么还要去设计和发明呢?

elephantsittingonyourhead
The poor old Chinese are several generations behind. Before their pilots can even get into their 'new stealth fighters' the US will have assassinated them in their beds with drone insects.
可怜的中国人落后几代。在他们的飞行员还没来得及进入”新隐形战机“的座舱前,美国会用无人机将他们杀死在床上。

cheesyboy
Don't know why everyone's so scared of China's military. It's a myth.
For example, how many aircraft carriers do they have? The answer is one - a refitted Ukrainian hulk, of all things.
China's army is large, but it needs to be to manage it's domestic security - a lot of people in China, you know.
不明白为什么大家害怕中国军队。这是一个迷思。
比如,中国有多少艘航母?答案是一艘翻新的乌克兰废船。
中国军队庞大,不过需要保护国内安全——你知道的,中国有许多人。
原创翻译:三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com

jjh
When will they be getting decent cameras?
他们什么时候会有质量好的相机?

40andgrumpy
We should all start learning to be polite to the Chinese.
我们应该开始学习礼貌对待中国人。

nicky6

nah, their popluation is in decline and who the hell would want to move to China.

他们人口在下降,究竟谁会想搬到中国去。

thisday
Obama says the USA will retain supremacy in the Pacific. The Chinese won't let him get away with such rhetoric. The Japanese must be feeling very insecure right now.
奥巴马说美国会在太平洋保持霸权。中国人不会让他如此轻易大放厥词的。日本人此刻肯定感到非常不安。

weescamp
And today David Cameron said he was happy about the Chinese taking a stake in owner of Glasgow, Aberdeen and Heathrow airports. The man is a treacherous idiot.
戴维·卡梅伦今天称乐见中国人入股格拉斯哥、亚伯丁和希斯罗机场。这个男人是阴险的傻瓜。

graphic
This smacks of the cold war over again.
有点像冷战又开始了。

Nathan Dowd
The new J-31, brought to you by technologies stolen from from more advanced countries. Much like the rest of the Chinese economy.
J-31战机技术偷自先进国家。中国经济大多是这样建立起来的。

bristoled

I expect the Israelis helped out, like they did when giving US technology to the Chinese via the Lavi aircraft.

And the US is good at shooting itself in the foot: the core - the high technology bit - of many of the US civil engines sold to the Chinese, is basically the same as their military engines...

我认为有以色列人在帮忙。中国仿造以色列的狮(lavi)飞机获得美国技术。

美国是在搬起石头砸自己的脚:许多美国民用发动机的高科技被卖给了中国人,基本上类似军用发动机...

Deadgirl

Funny, the Chinese were saying exactly the same thing about you foreign devils from before the birth of Christ right up until the 18th Century.

可笑,耶稣出生前一直到18世纪,中国人也同样如此说你们这些鬼佬。

elephantsittingonyourhead

Hahahaha! You lost the race pal - and the only way you can keep up now is by stealing our ideas. If you had any technological advantage at any time you failed to make use of it. Now you are just a bunch of bitter losers. Almost everything Chinese that I have bought is broken. It's rubbish junk.

哈哈!朋友,你们比赛输了——唯一能保持不落后的方法是偷窃我们的创意。以前有技术优势时没有利用起来,现在是一群失败者。我买的几乎每一件中国货都坏了,垃圾货。

thisday
Obviously a blatant Raptor/F-35 rip off.
Now we can see why the Pentagon is so worried about the invasion of Huawei and ZTE into telecommunications. 'Big Players' like Alcatel-Lucent, Ericsson etc have lost their markets and we have probably lost our military secrets.
The Chinese can't tackle the USA head on for a decade. But they can intimidate the Japanese in the meantime and by 2040 the US will be inferior to the Chinese militarily.
Our poor kids, eh?
明显公然剽窃猛禽/F-35
我们现在明白五角大楼为什么要担心华为和中兴入侵美国通信领域。 阿尔卡特朗讯、爱立信等巨头丢失了一些市场,我们可能有失去军事秘密。
中国人十年内无法对付美国,不过在此期间可以恐吓日本人,2040年之前美国在军事上会逊于中国。
我们可怜的孩子,嗯?
原创翻译:三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com

randal

"by 2040 the US will be inferior to the Chinese militarily. "

LOL! In whose fantasy world?

”2040年之前美国在军事上会逊于中国。“

笑!生活在谁的幻想世界中?

thisday

Nightmare, not fantasy.

Have a good look at Chinese 'telecommunications' giants and you'll see they are ahead of most European and US manufacturers.

But you're probably correct. Could be nearer 2030.

是噩梦,不是幻想。

看看中国电信巨头,你会发现它们领先大多数欧洲和美国电信设备制造商。

不过你很可能正确。可能更接近2030年。

hurree_jamset_ram_singh
MiG-25 innit.

The Chinese can't just keep copying Soviet designs and hope they work in the modern world.  

是不是米格-25

中国人不能老是山寨苏联设计的同时,抱着能在现代世界中派上用场的希望。  

upton
Not sure they've understood 'stealth' - I can CLEARLY see it in the picture.
Back to the drawing board.....
不确定他们是否理解”隐形“的概念——我可以清晰地从图片中看出来。
回炉重新设计吧...

jimbob567
Its already obsolete. Unmanned aircraft are the future. Which is mostly why the F-22 program was cancelled.
已经过时了。无人机才是未来趋势。所以F-22项目才会被取消。

halcyons

That's not why it was cancelled. The F-22 is purely for a p***ing contest with Russia. It can't even achieve multi-role status meaning it's of limited use given how expensive it is.

It has better air to air than the F-35 and better Stealth, but that's likely it.

那不是被取消的原因。F-22纯粹是要与俄罗斯竞争。无法实现多用途,造价昂贵,用途有限。

空对空能力优于F-35,隐形设计也更好,可能就是这个原因吧。

LithomanII
How much of the technology was stolen by Chi-comm spies?
有多少技术是共党间谍偷来的?

benstead
Good to see that our aid to China has been well spent!
很高兴看到我们给中国的援助被很好地利用起来了!

Will
Just a rip off of the F-22 and F-35. As usual, the Chinese are good at copying things, but absolutely not capable of innovation.
只是剽窃F-22和F-35。与往常一样,中国人擅长山寨,不过绝对没有能力创新。

ItinerantView

I'd like that to be true,but people said exactly the same things about the Japanese and besides if you look at just about any scientific research from around the world it invariably has a Chinese name on it.You're kidding yourself if you think the Chinese can't be innovative.Their disregard of copyright doesn't help start up tech but that can change.

但愿是真的,不过人们以前也是这样说日本人。此外,看看世界各地的科研,你不可避免会看到中国人的名字。你认为中国人没有能力创新,在开玩笑吧。他们漠视版权不会帮助开启科技创新,不过那是会改变的。

guga

Your statement is reminiscent of what they used to say during the war about how the Japanese couldn't make good fliers as they didn't have a sense of balance from being carried around on their mother's backs.

你的话令人回忆起人们战时如何说日本人培养不出优秀飞行员,因为日本人小时候在妈妈的背上长大,所以没有平衡感。

nicky6

The Chinese had aircraft carrier sized ships navigating the Indian ocean when we where still paddling hollowed out logs.They are good at invention but not at application.

当我们还在划着挖空了的圆木时,中国人已经有航母大小的船只在印度洋航行。他们擅长发明,但不擅长应用。

原创翻译:三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com

Didier Martins

that's what people said of the japs in the 60s.
sour grapes.

60年代时,人们就是这样说日本人。

酸葡萄心理。

Will

sour grapes for what? stating the facts? There is a difference between China and Japan. Japan brought in quality engineering gurus in the 50's in an effort to produce high quality manufacturing. China has no such desire. It's system values quantity over quality.

酸了什么?阐述事实而已?中国和日本不同。为了生产出高质量的产品,日本50年代时引入了质量工程师。中国没有这样的愿望,它的系统重量不重质。

NinjaMouse

And those engines are a rip from the Mig-29.

发动机剽窃自米格-29

culley
If Pakistan can afford to buy fighter aircraft from China why are we providing them with aid - In my veiw the aid program should be stopped altogether
既然巴基斯坦买得起中国的战机,为什么我们要向巴基斯坦提供帮助。在我看来,援助计划应该完全停止。

WorthSaying

To bribe Zadari into allowing us to replenish our garrisons in Afganistan via land through Pakistan.

And to try to make the next generation of Pakistanis more positive about the west than the current generation.

Both of these objectives are a pointless waste of time and money.

为的是贿赂扎尔达里,让其允许我们通过巴基斯坦向阿富汗驻军提供后勤保障。

还有让巴基斯坦下一代对西方持更正面的看法。

两个目的都没有意义,纯粹是浪费时间和金钱。

d2b

Because EU is forcing us ...

因为欧盟强迫我们这样做...

ceri
"The layout is similar, but the material and quality are inferior."
Doesn't that just sum up everything that comes out of China these days? But the fools are us for buying it.
”设计类似,但材料和质量劣质“。
这不正好总结了当今中国生产出来的每一件产品的共性吗?不过我们傻傻地在购买。

generalsirpercyroggering
A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step? Lao -tzu 604BC - 531BC! They have all the time in the world. How much longer before all of us in the west use nothing but chopsticks and feed on two bowls of rice a day?
不积跬步,无以至千里?老子(604BC-531BC)说的!他们一直这样做。我们西方人多久会开始每天只使用筷子吃两碗米饭度日?


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英国网友评论:中国J31战斗机试飞成功
2012年11月01日
英国网友评论中国歼31战斗机试飞成功。据英国《每日电讯报》11月1日报道,中国不到两年内推出的第二种隐形战机J31成功首飞。歼31战斗机正式代号为”鹘鹰“,是由中国沈阳飞机公司研发制造的第五代战机。歼31试飞成功也代表中国成为第二个同时拥有两种第五代原型机的国家,先前只有美国同时拥有F-22和F-35两种五代机。有的英国网友称中国J31战机使用的技术剽窃自先进国家;有的英国网友则称已经过时了,无人机才是未来趋势,所以F-22猛禽隐形战机才会停产。
龙腾网版权所有 http://www.ltaaa.com
版权所有:http://www.santaihu.com
龙腾网版权所有 http://www.ltaaa.com原文标题:China 'makes first test flight' of new stealth fighter jet
原文链接:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ ... th-fighter-jet.html


中国歼31战斗机试飞成功(原文图片)



以下是英国网友的评论:

WorthSaying
The next generation of Chinese war planes will be in service for the next thirty years during which time china will build their own large aircraft carriers ( rather than re-fit old soviet ones) so you would expect there to be a naval variant of the J 31.
China will play to her strengths. She will use espionage, blackmail and bribery in order to get the technology required.
中国下一代战机将在未来30年里服役。在该期间,中国会自主建造大型航母(不是翻新苏联的旧航母),所以J31的海军版本值得期待。
中国会发挥自身特长,利用间谍、敲诈和贿赂等手段获得需要的技术。

johngt
At least the Chinese have been spared all those silly R&D costs. Why design and invent when you can simply 'use' other country's designs.
中国人至少省去了研发费用。既然可以简单”使用“其他国家的设计,为什么还要去设计和发明呢?

elephantsittingonyourhead
The poor old Chinese are several generations behind. Before their pilots can even get into their 'new stealth fighters' the US will have assassinated them in their beds with drone insects.
可怜的中国人落后几代。在他们的飞行员还没来得及进入”新隐形战机“的座舱前,美国会用无人机将他们杀死在床上。

cheesyboy
Don't know why everyone's so scared of China's military. It's a myth.
For example, how many aircraft carriers do they have? The answer is one - a refitted Ukrainian hulk, of all things.
China's army is large, but it needs to be to manage it's domestic security - a lot of people in China, you know.
不明白为什么大家害怕中国军队。这是一个迷思。
比如,中国有多少艘航母?答案是一艘翻新的乌克兰废船。
中国军队庞大,不过需要保护国内安全——你知道的,中国有许多人。
原创翻译:三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com

jjh
When will they be getting decent cameras?
他们什么时候会有质量好的相机?

40andgrumpy
We should all start learning to be polite to the Chinese.
我们应该开始学习礼貌对待中国人。

nicky6

nah, their popluation is in decline and who the hell would want to move to China.

他们人口在下降,究竟谁会想搬到中国去。

thisday
Obama says the USA will retain supremacy in the Pacific. The Chinese won't let him get away with such rhetoric. The Japanese must be feeling very insecure right now.
奥巴马说美国会在太平洋保持霸权。中国人不会让他如此轻易大放厥词的。日本人此刻肯定感到非常不安。

weescamp
And today David Cameron said he was happy about the Chinese taking a stake in owner of Glasgow, Aberdeen and Heathrow airports. The man is a treacherous idiot.
戴维·卡梅伦今天称乐见中国人入股格拉斯哥、亚伯丁和希斯罗机场。这个男人是阴险的傻瓜。

graphic
This smacks of the cold war over again.
有点像冷战又开始了。

Nathan Dowd
The new J-31, brought to you by technologies stolen from from more advanced countries. Much like the rest of the Chinese economy.
J-31战机技术偷自先进国家。中国经济大多是这样建立起来的。

bristoled

I expect the Israelis helped out, like they did when giving US technology to the Chinese via the Lavi aircraft.

And the US is good at shooting itself in the foot: the core - the high technology bit - of many of the US civil engines sold to the Chinese, is basically the same as their military engines...

我认为有以色列人在帮忙。中国仿造以色列的狮(lavi)飞机获得美国技术。

美国是在搬起石头砸自己的脚:许多美国民用发动机的高科技被卖给了中国人,基本上类似军用发动机...

Deadgirl

Funny, the Chinese were saying exactly the same thing about you foreign devils from before the birth of Christ right up until the 18th Century.

可笑,耶稣出生前一直到18世纪,中国人也同样如此说你们这些鬼佬。

elephantsittingonyourhead

Hahahaha! You lost the race pal - and the only way you can keep up now is by stealing our ideas. If you had any technological advantage at any time you failed to make use of it. Now you are just a bunch of bitter losers. Almost everything Chinese that I have bought is broken. It's rubbish junk.

哈哈!朋友,你们比赛输了——唯一能保持不落后的方法是偷窃我们的创意。以前有技术优势时没有利用起来,现在是一群失败者。我买的几乎每一件中国货都坏了,垃圾货。

thisday
Obviously a blatant Raptor/F-35 rip off.
Now we can see why the Pentagon is so worried about the invasion of Huawei and ZTE into telecommunications. 'Big Players' like Alcatel-Lucent, Ericsson etc have lost their markets and we have probably lost our military secrets.
The Chinese can't tackle the USA head on for a decade. But they can intimidate the Japanese in the meantime and by 2040 the US will be inferior to the Chinese militarily.
Our poor kids, eh?
明显公然剽窃猛禽/F-35
我们现在明白五角大楼为什么要担心华为和中兴入侵美国通信领域。 阿尔卡特朗讯、爱立信等巨头丢失了一些市场,我们可能有失去军事秘密。
中国人十年内无法对付美国,不过在此期间可以恐吓日本人,2040年之前美国在军事上会逊于中国。
我们可怜的孩子,嗯?
原创翻译:三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com

randal

"by 2040 the US will be inferior to the Chinese militarily. "

LOL! In whose fantasy world?

”2040年之前美国在军事上会逊于中国。“

笑!生活在谁的幻想世界中?

thisday

Nightmare, not fantasy.

Have a good look at Chinese 'telecommunications' giants and you'll see they are ahead of most European and US manufacturers.

But you're probably correct. Could be nearer 2030.

是噩梦,不是幻想。

看看中国电信巨头,你会发现它们领先大多数欧洲和美国电信设备制造商。

不过你很可能正确。可能更接近2030年。

hurree_jamset_ram_singh
MiG-25 innit.

The Chinese can't just keep copying Soviet designs and hope they work in the modern world.  

是不是米格-25

中国人不能老是山寨苏联设计的同时,抱着能在现代世界中派上用场的希望。  

upton
Not sure they've understood 'stealth' - I can CLEARLY see it in the picture.
Back to the drawing board.....
不确定他们是否理解”隐形“的概念——我可以清晰地从图片中看出来。
回炉重新设计吧...

jimbob567
Its already obsolete. Unmanned aircraft are the future. Which is mostly why the F-22 program was cancelled.
已经过时了。无人机才是未来趋势。所以F-22项目才会被取消。

halcyons

That's not why it was cancelled. The F-22 is purely for a p***ing contest with Russia. It can't even achieve multi-role status meaning it's of limited use given how expensive it is.

It has better air to air than the F-35 and better Stealth, but that's likely it.

那不是被取消的原因。F-22纯粹是要与俄罗斯竞争。无法实现多用途,造价昂贵,用途有限。

空对空能力优于F-35,隐形设计也更好,可能就是这个原因吧。

LithomanII
How much of the technology was stolen by Chi-comm spies?
有多少技术是共党间谍偷来的?

benstead
Good to see that our aid to China has been well spent!
很高兴看到我们给中国的援助被很好地利用起来了!

Will
Just a rip off of the F-22 and F-35. As usual, the Chinese are good at copying things, but absolutely not capable of innovation.
只是剽窃F-22和F-35。与往常一样,中国人擅长山寨,不过绝对没有能力创新。

ItinerantView

I'd like that to be true,but people said exactly the same things about the Japanese and besides if you look at just about any scientific research from around the world it invariably has a Chinese name on it.You're kidding yourself if you think the Chinese can't be innovative.Their disregard of copyright doesn't help start up tech but that can change.

但愿是真的,不过人们以前也是这样说日本人。此外,看看世界各地的科研,你不可避免会看到中国人的名字。你认为中国人没有能力创新,在开玩笑吧。他们漠视版权不会帮助开启科技创新,不过那是会改变的。

guga

Your statement is reminiscent of what they used to say during the war about how the Japanese couldn't make good fliers as they didn't have a sense of balance from being carried around on their mother's backs.

你的话令人回忆起人们战时如何说日本人培养不出优秀飞行员,因为日本人小时候在妈妈的背上长大,所以没有平衡感。

nicky6

The Chinese had aircraft carrier sized ships navigating the Indian ocean when we where still paddling hollowed out logs.They are good at invention but not at application.

当我们还在划着挖空了的圆木时,中国人已经有航母大小的船只在印度洋航行。他们擅长发明,但不擅长应用。

原创翻译:三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com

Didier Martins

that's what people said of the japs in the 60s.
sour grapes.

60年代时,人们就是这样说日本人。

酸葡萄心理。

Will

sour grapes for what? stating the facts? There is a difference between China and Japan. Japan brought in quality engineering gurus in the 50's in an effort to produce high quality manufacturing. China has no such desire. It's system values quantity over quality.

酸了什么?阐述事实而已?中国和日本不同。为了生产出高质量的产品,日本50年代时引入了质量工程师。中国没有这样的愿望,它的系统重量不重质。

NinjaMouse

And those engines are a rip from the Mig-29.

发动机剽窃自米格-29

culley
If Pakistan can afford to buy fighter aircraft from China why are we providing them with aid - In my veiw the aid program should be stopped altogether
既然巴基斯坦买得起中国的战机,为什么我们要向巴基斯坦提供帮助。在我看来,援助计划应该完全停止。

WorthSaying

To bribe Zadari into allowing us to replenish our garrisons in Afganistan via land through Pakistan.

And to try to make the next generation of Pakistanis more positive about the west than the current generation.

Both of these objectives are a pointless waste of time and money.

为的是贿赂扎尔达里,让其允许我们通过巴基斯坦向阿富汗驻军提供后勤保障。

还有让巴基斯坦下一代对西方持更正面的看法。

两个目的都没有意义,纯粹是浪费时间和金钱。

d2b

Because EU is forcing us ...

因为欧盟强迫我们这样做...

ceri
"The layout is similar, but the material and quality are inferior."
Doesn't that just sum up everything that comes out of China these days? But the fools are us for buying it.
”设计类似,但材料和质量劣质“。
这不正好总结了当今中国生产出来的每一件产品的共性吗?不过我们傻傻地在购买。

generalsirpercyroggering
A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step? Lao -tzu 604BC - 531BC! They have all the time in the world. How much longer before all of us in the west use nothing but chopsticks and feed on two bowls of rice a day?
不积跬步,无以至千里?老子(604BC-531BC)说的!他们一直这样做。我们西方人多久会开始每天只使用筷子吃两碗米饭度日?


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要改变对一个人的印象需要上百年 一个国家也是如此-----------------
只有将炸弹扔到他们头上,才会真正对中国有了认识
micory626 发表于 2012-11-3 20:17
要改变对一个人的印象需要上百年 一个国家也是如此-----------------
关键这不是目的,只是目标达成时顺便完成的case。
Great B is nothing.
宗教份子是永远学不会换位思考的
英国人现在也像日本人那样拿美国壮胆,真是让人感概。以前可是韩国,台湾的强项。
从这些人的表现可以看出西方的衰落不可避免了。。。。。
悲哀而衰败的日不落帝国,讨厌用但又不得不用只能用“中国垃圾产品”的大英帝国
日不落现在也安心当狗腿子了
里面那些清醒的是华人?还是发展的地下党?


很遗憾各国对中国产品的质量印象基本都是一致的,不管这是否符合事实,其实我们自己也基本上是这个印象。
可问题是,尽管印象如此恶劣,“买的每一件中国产品都坏了”,为什么他们还要傻傻的买?不能说全是价格因数吧,就算中国货质量差些,但性价比还是高于他们的同类产品的--我们的飞机当然也是这样。而在质量有差距但不过大的时候,性价比的优势就凸显了。

很遗憾各国对中国产品的质量印象基本都是一致的,不管这是否符合事实,其实我们自己也基本上是这个印象。
可问题是,尽管印象如此恶劣,“买的每一件中国产品都坏了”,为什么他们还要傻傻的买?不能说全是价格因数吧,就算中国货质量差些,但性价比还是高于他们的同类产品的--我们的飞机当然也是这样。而在质量有差距但不过大的时候,性价比的优势就凸显了。
唉以前是我们不了解世界,现在是世界不了解我们了~~看来我们回到第一的位置不远了。
牛牛们今后只剩回忆了.
老二的跨越是比较难的。德国,小日本都失败了。
不知所谓 发表于 2012-11-3 20:36
很遗憾各国对中国产品的质量印象基本都是一致的,不管这是否符合事实,其实我们自己也基本上是这个印象。
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这才是关键------为什么他们还要买还要用, 这背后的真相很多(西方)人不愿也不敢面对
只有MD是兔子的对手,这应该是世界人民的共识!
看着这些回复就觉得牛牛可怜。。总是把美国拉上一起叫“我们”,凡事就提美国,现在在欧盟问题上也想抱美国大腿脱离欧洲。。可是美国到哪个国家都说“我们”,根本没把牛牛当亲儿子。。
可怜的英国佬,酸死了
牛牛这个国家的轨迹就是 老子→儿子→孙子→叫花子……
littlestuff 发表于 2012-11-3 21:07
牛牛这个国家的轨迹就是 老子→儿子→孙子→叫花子……
这个有意思。
最后一句绝对大亮啊!
这些“英国人”里面有多少是印度来的?
傲慢与偏见,但无所谓,我们已经落后的几百年了,也不在乎多等个几年。
我们想和平崛起,但理想很美好,现实很残酷!
当我们发明创造的时候,这些欧洲猴子穿上屁连儿了么
评论让我惊喜万分,除了巴铁和哭泣国等无利益冲突的国家,目前只有部分MD的论坛传出理智的声音,觉得兔子航空还是有进步的,还是说明了问题:心里有底子的人,见识的确不一样。MD的霸气和底子还是在的。不过MD也有部分坛子是和其他一起扯淡的。
擅长发明不擅长应用
I'd like that to be true,but people said exactly the same things about the Japanese and besides if you look at just about any scientific research from around the world it invariably has a Chinese name on it.You're kidding yourself if you think the Chinese can't be innovative.Their disregard of copyright doesn't help start up tech but that can change.

但愿是真的,不过人们以前也是这样说日本人。此外,看看世界各地的科研,你不可避免会看到中国人的名字。你认为中国人没有能力创新,在开玩笑吧。他们漠视版权不会帮助开启科技创新,不过那是会改变的。

guga

Your statement is reminiscent of what they used to say during the war about how the Japanese couldn't make good fliers as they didn't have a sense of balance from being carried around on their mother's backs.

你的话令人回忆起人们战时如何说日本人培养不出优秀飞行员,因为日本人小时候在妈妈的背上长大,所以没有平衡感。

nicky6

The Chinese had aircraft carrier sized ships navigating the Indian ocean when we where still paddling hollowed out logs.They are good at invention but not at application.

当我们还在划着挖空了的圆木时,中国人已经有航母大小的船只在印度洋航行。他们擅长发明,但不擅长应用。
诸位觉得我国产品质量如何?
还是有挺多清醒的
littlestuff 发表于 2012-11-3 21:07
牛牛这个国家的轨迹就是 老子→儿子→孙子→叫花子……
;P精辟     
Great B is nothing.
Great B is a B,definitely.
西方人思维方式直线化,想问题过于简单,所以缺少真正意义上的战略和谋划大师,早晚衰落
koffa 发表于 2012-11-3 20:27
关键这不是目的,只是目标达成时顺便完成的case。
他们这样,我就放心了。
所以……这也是为什么米弟能够称雄世界的原因,米弟清醒的人太多了。
只有将炸弹扔到他们头上,才会真正对中国有了认识
非常同意你的观点 ,他们就是欠揍,被扁一顿后就会改变看法的。
可怜的英国人!虽然衰落了,却仍然秉承着昔日帝国的傲慢。跟鲁迅笔下的阿Q有一拼:我祖上也阔过!
英国佬的话语让我很纠结啊
我等着看我们登月了以后,这帮猪还怎么说?
小肚鸡肠和酸溜溜大概就这样吧
白皮猪有种把苹果全扔了。