超级军网【龙腾】色情与爱国主义：我们能使其和睦相处吗？
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原题：Pornography andpatriotism：Can’t we all just get it on?
副标：A Japanese actressreminds her Chinese fans how conflicted they are
中文：色情与爱国主义：我们能使其和睦相处吗？
一个日本女优提醒她的中国粉丝他们是多么的纠结
正文
OFALL the positions with which Sora Aoi has excited her Chinese fans (and therehave been many), this was among the more surprising. As anti-Japanese sentimentflared across China, the former porn star issued an online appeal, in fetchingcalligraphy, for Sino-Japanese friendship. One placard waved at anti-Japaneseprotests over the disputed Senkaku/Diaoyu islands read simply: “the Diaoyuislands belong to China; Sora Aoi belongs to the world.”
在苍井空让其中国粉丝兴奋的所有“姿势”中，这次的“姿势”算是最出人意料的。当反日情绪席卷中国全境之时，往昔的色情明星苍井空在网上现身，以自己迷人的书法大呼“中日友好”。在由于钓鱼岛（尖阁列岛）争议引发的反日游行中，（有人）挥舞着一条读起来很“简洁”的标语：钓鱼岛是中国的；苍井空是世界的。
Thisodd slogan underlines the mixed and often contradictory feelings Chinese peoplecan have about Japan. Brought up to hate it for its historic crimes, they alsoadmire it for being better at some things than China: electronic goods; socialorder; comic books—and pornographic videos. Ms Aoi, unlike her government, hasdone nothing to hurt the feelings of the Chinese people, or at least the youngmen among them. She has more than 13m followers on Sina Weibo, a Chinesemicroblog, and her public appearances have caused near-riots with a rarepro-Japanese slant.
这条古怪的标语表明了中国人对日本所常有的复杂与矛盾的感觉。由于日本对中国所犯的罪行，中国人是在反日教育中长大的。但对日本强于中国的一些方面，中国人民也会表示赞赏，比如电子产品、社会秩序和漫画书，当然了，还有色情电影。苍井“小姐”与日本政府不同，没有做过伤害过中国人民的感情的事，或者至少说，没做过伤害过中国男性青年感情的事。在中国的微博-新浪微博上，关注她的人数已经超过了1300万。她的公开亮相引发了罕见的、几近暴动般的“亲日”骚动。
Herswas not the only cause that hitched its wagon to the demonstrations. Some tookpart for the chance of letting off steam without feeling the sharpend of the police’s anger. Some waved portraits of Chairman Mao, whoin fact was rather insouciant about these inalienable specks of Chinesesovereignty. Most stayed away altogether. Han Han, a writer, racing driver andone of China’s most popular bloggers, called for looters and vandals to bepunished.
苍井空不是唯一一个搭上这次反日游行便车的人。有些人参与游行，只为了借此机会在不受警察干涉的情况，发泄一下。有人挥舞着毛主席的肖像，而实际上肖像上的这个人对中国主权不可分割的这些小岛是漠不关心的。大部分人完全置身此次游行之外。中国作家、赛车手、最受欢迎的博主之一韩寒呼吁，对（此次游行中）抢劫和破坏他人者财产者进行处罚。
MsAoi’s appeal received some sympathetic comments among the 150,000 or so that itattracted. But many of her fans, like the nation as a whole, were fully behindthe protests. Some taunted her with obscene insults and threats. One comment,translated by ChinaSMACK, a website, sought to make the best of things,suggesting that, when it takes back the Diaoyu islands, China should capture MsAoi alive.
苍“小姐”在微博上的这一呼吁，吸引了约15万的评论，其中不乏同情的评论。但大部分苍井空的粉丝，与全中国人民一样，都完全支持反日抗议游行活动。一些回复用下流的侮辱和威胁的言语，来嘲弄她。由ChinaSMACK网站翻译的一条评论试图两全其美：拿下钓鱼岛，活捉苍井空。
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1楼 80 Young ChineseWakeup Sep 21st, 07:49
Have the Economist's editors ever enjoyedher works?:)
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《经济学人》的编辑们喜欢她的作品？
2楼 bumfromk0rea Sep24th, 07:09
"OF ALL the positions with which SoraAoi has excited her Chinese fans (and there have been many), this was among themore surprising."
Best opening of an Economist article ever.
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引用：“在苍井空让其中国粉丝兴奋的所有“姿势”中，这次的“姿势”算是最出人意料的”
这是《经济学人》有史以来最好的文章开头了！
3楼 Will@Moor Sep 21st,14:19
Eroticism and nationalism are... in fact,two easy ways to spend your empty evening.
Nothing to do in weekend? Porno videos, ornationalist forums?
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色情与爱国主义…事实上是最容易打发空虚夜晚的两种方法了。
周末没事干？色情电影，或者爱国主义论坛？
4楼 Kirk Rogers Sep20th, 18:57
I really don't care about the contents butthat headline is a mark of mastery.
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我真的不在乎文章内容，但大标题却深深吸引了我。
5楼 ncbcU783Rz Sep21st, 04:15
The only way Sora Aoi can somehowextinguish the Chinese patriotic "fire" is to shoot her next pornovideo in the disputed islands with a Chinese man as the actor who subjugatesher sexually. Chinese natonalism is highly emotionally charged that can only bealleviated by something equally emotionally charged. Sex and nationalism aresimilar things in terms of irration and fierceness.
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苍井空唯一能平息中国人民爱国主义怒火的某种方法是：选择可以用“性”*“征服”她的中国男演员，在争议岛屿上拍摄一部“爱情动作片”。中国人的爱国主义充满了激情，只能用其他一些充满“激情”的东西来缓和。性和爱国主义，在非理性、强烈这些层面上，是相似的东西。
6楼 Orothenin reply toc3z7JhXSnc Sep 22nd, 20:49
Yes, the Western press should never writeabout China. Instead, it should keep the public entirely ignorant ofwhat occurs in the East.
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是的，西方媒体不应该写关于中国的文章。相反地，它应该让公众完全不知道东方所发生的事。
7 楼 ewakorn Sep 21st,21:18
I have been writing at least half dozenposts about Ms. Sora Aoi, and now Economist finally focused on her.
Ms. Aoi is an icon -- and I have suggestedshe becomes the new Japanese ambassador to China!
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一直以来，我写了至少半打的关于苍井空“小姐”的帖子，现在《经济学人》终于开始关注她了。苍井空是一个偶像，我已经建议让她出任新的驻华大使！
8 楼 aidan Clarke Sep22nd, 10:58
Nationalism is always a refuge forscoundrels. Regardless of where it rears its ugly head.
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爱国主义从来都是流氓恶棍的庇护所，无论它在哪儿出现。
9楼 Missionpeak Sep21st, 16:19
Ms. Aoi comes alive in my dream.
A girl to die for.
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苍井空“小姐”活在我的梦中。梦寐以求的姑娘。
10 楼 Chinese American Sep24th, 18:37
Loved the article. It reminds people thatthere are other things in life than hate. Sex is one of them. Violentprotesters please get laid. Oh no you cannot becausethere is are way less females in the country.
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大爱这篇文章。它提醒人们生活中除了“恨”之外，还有其他东西，性就是其中之一。暴力的抗议者们，请“上床”去吧。对了，你们办不到，因为你们国家的女性比较少！
11 楼supamark Sep 21st,23:47
I wonder if her tentacled co-stars receiveas much fame and adulation... Japanese porn is probably the weirdest around,though the Germans give them a run for their money.
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我在想，与苍井空合作的演员能不能收到像她那么多的名声与奉承。虽然德国人给日本色情电影赚钱的空间，但这些电影可能是世界上最怪异的了。
12 楼 James Hollifieldinreply to gonggabear Sep 24th, 02:37
@Gonggabear, you seemingly do notunderstand the author very well, let alone the western culture.
This article was written for fun, not forserious business.
Enroll in some western college and learn some sense of humor, young man.
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对Gonggabear说：看起来你没能很好的理解本文作者的意图，更别说西方文化了。写这篇文章就图一乐呵，不是为了一些严肃的事。年轻人，选一些西方学校的课，学习一些幽默感吧。
13 楼 aidan clarkeinreply to noseri Sep 22nd, 18:04
I do not "dedicate" my SO toanything, cheerfully or otherwise. We are all free people with independentminds. She is with me for as long as she wants to be with me.
Indeed, the fact that it was your firstchoice to make THAT argument as your retort is perfect proof of my originalpoint.
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我不会为任何事像那样似的献出自己，无论是高兴的事或者相反。我们都是有独立思想的自由人。只要她想和我在一起就可以和我在一起。
实际上，真相是：首选发起那样的争论作为你的反驳，恰恰证明了我原来的观点是完美的。
14 楼 Kyat Drone Sep20th, 16:19
"Ms Aoi’s appeal received somesympathetic comments among the 150,000 or so that it attracted. But many of herfans, like the nation as a whole, were fully behind the protests. Some tauntedher with obscene insults and threats. One comment, translated by ChinaSMACK, awebsite, sought to make the best of things, suggesting that, when it takes backthe Diaoyu islands, China should capture Ms Aoi alive."
Haha I knew The Economist was justregurgitating many articles found in ChinaSMACK.
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引用：“苍“小姐”在微博上的这一呼吁，吸引了约15万的评论，其中不乏同情的评论。但大部分苍井空的粉丝，与全中国人民一样，都完全支持反日抗议游行活动。一些回复用下流的侮辱和威胁的言语，来嘲弄她。由ChinaSMACK网站翻译的一条评论试图两全其美：拿下钓鱼岛，活捉苍井空。”
哈哈。我知道了，原来经济学人过去一直是在机械的引用ChinaSMACK上发现的很多文章啊。
15 楼gonggabear Sep 23rd,17:41
The author seemingly doesn’t understandChinese young men very well, let alone Chinese culture. The slogan "theDiaoyu islands belong to China, Sora Aoi belongs to the world.” is just the wayChinese young men express their sense of humor. They don’t really care aboutthis has-been Japanese porn star. But fortunately Sora Aoi did regainpopularity & came back to the public attention especially in China duringthe conflict between China & Japan.
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作者看起来还不是很了解中国的年轻人，更不要说中国的文化了。标语“钓鱼岛是中国的；苍井空是世界的”仅仅是中国年轻人用来表达其幽默感的方式而已。他们并不真的在乎这位过气的日本色情明星。但苍井空幸运地在中日这场冲突中，重新受到欢迎，回到了公众的视线中，尤其是在中国。
16 楼c3z7JhXSnc Sep 22nd,10:51
Chinese people do not wave such kind ofbanner for their admiration for some aspects of Japan. Because of theflourishing development of porn industry of Japan, how weird it is, Chinesepeople are just making fun of it. Never take it seriously, editors. You don'tknow how silly you're to write such an article. With merely superficialunderstanding of China and it's national conditions, you guys are not in theposition to issue any commentary articles on China in public.
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中国人挥舞那样的标语，并不是为了表达他们对日本某些方面的钦佩。因为日本色情工业的蓬勃发展，看起来很怪异，中国人只是用它来取乐。不要把这个当真，编辑们，你们不知道，仅仅靠对中国肤浅的了解，就写出这样的文章是多么的愚蠢。这是中国的国情，你们不了解这一点，就不要公开发表任何关于中国的评论性文章。
17 楼 Claus Rasmussen Sep22nd, 23:43
I am stupefied by all that crap about TheSilly Islands. The Sora Aoi angle on the story is a most welcome distraction.
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关于这些愚蠢岛屿的废话，使我惊呆了。这一故事中，苍井“天使”很好的分散了我的注意力。
18 楼kchokeith Sep 21st,02:52
It is funny that she is in the Economist!!!
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搞笑的是，她竟然出现在了《经济学人中》！！！
19 楼 kommonsenses Sep22nd, 04:24
it reminds me way back when, an infamous Italianporn star turned member of Italian parliament who offered to offer herself tosaddam hussein in exchange for world peace.
it may not be a proper analogy, but it doesgo to show some artists can be very entrepreneuring.
don't know about this girl aoi sora (neverhear of her, like I have never heard of a guy ai weiwei until TE made a pitchfor him), but if TE wants to name some Japanese female who really commandslarge following and good will in china, I'd nominate Ai Fukuhara, the'porcelian doll' table tennis star from japan loved and respected by so many.
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这让我回想起来，以前有一个有名的意大利色情明星变成意大利议会议员后，主动提出愿意把自己献给萨达姆.侯赛因，以换取世界的和平。
可能这不是一个合适的类比，但它确实可以证明，一些“艺术家”可以是一个倡导者。
不了解苍井空这个姑娘（从来没听说过，就像我从未听说过ai weiwei这个人，直到经济学人为他说好话时），但如果《经济学人》想点出一些“可以支配大批追随者”并对中国怀有善意的日本女性时，我愿意提名福原爱，这个来自日本、受到很多人喜爱与尊敬、有着“瓷娃娃”称号的兵乓球明星。
20 楼 Bismarck888in replyto c3z7JhXSnc Sep 23rd, 01:51
But why don't you criticize the Chinesepress for telling bigger lies.
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但你为什么不批评中国的媒体，撒了如此大的一个谎。
21 楼 c3z7JhXSncin replyto Orothen Sep 23rd, 00:51
The Western press has every right to writeabout China, but what they write must be based on the truth. Seeing is sometimesnot believing. If the press cannot be objective, how can we readers beobjective? The press always serves the government it is for. Theylet we readers see what they want us to see, but not what we want to see. Andwhat I see in the Economist is nothing but criticism and slander of China,never sth about praise or admiration. Their move of trying to demonize China isirresponsible, for themselves, for China and for readers. They mislead readerson the Eastern issues. They keep claiming to take no sides on Sino-Japanissues, but what's the fact? Hypocrisy is the word springing to my mindinstantly.
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西方媒体确是有权力来写关于中国的报道，但他们所写的必须以事实为基础。有时候，眼见不一定为实。如果媒体不能客观性的报道，作为读者的我们如何客观呢？媒体总是为它的政府服务的。他们（指媒体）让我们读者看他们想让我们看的东西，而不是我们自己想要看的东西。我在《经济学人》中所看到只有对中国的批评与诽谤，从来没有关于赞美或赞赏的事。他们试图妖魔化中国的举动对他们自己、对中国和它的读者都是不负责任的。他们在东方问题的上，误导他们的读者。他们总是说不在中日问题上选边站，但事实如何呢？我脑子里马上会冒出“虚伪”这个词。
22 楼 kommonsensesinreply to kommonsenses Sep 22nd, 04:41
'it reminds me way back when, an infamous Italianporn star turned member of Italian parliament who offered to offer herself tosaddam hussein in exchange for world peace.'
I suppose bush never did get the news, lookhow much troubles and lives she could have saved for the world otherwise.
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引用：“这让我回想起来，以前有一个有名的意大利色情明星变成意大利议会议员后，主动提出愿意把自己献给萨达姆.侯赛因，以换取世界的和平。”我猜布什总统从来没有得到这个消息，要不然的话，她可能已经帮世界减少很多麻烦，拯救了很多人的性命。
23 楼 Houshuin reply tobsYyATgYQy Sep 21st, 23:44
You mean Ai Wei Wei(not related, as far as I know), he is also a porn star of some kind...
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你的意思是说Ai Wei Wei，在某种意义上来说，也是一个色情明星…
24 楼 Michael Dunneinreply to 80 Young Chinese Wakeup Sep 21st, 19:41
I am sure to do some background, get a feelfor the story, etc.
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我的确是要做一些背景知识的学习，来更好的了解这一文章。
25 楼 dunnhaupt Sep 22nd,23:56
Another such incident occurred a couple ofyears ago between Canada and Greenland, again over a few mere rocks.Far more dangerous, however, was the 1969 incident between the Chinese and theRussians over a tiny island in the Ussuri River. My all-time favorite, however,is still the incident Nancy Mitford relates in "Don't Tell Alfred"-- a violent dispute between Britain and France over a nameless rock near theChannel Islands.
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两年前，另一与此相似的事件发生在加拿大与格陵兰之间，也仅仅是因为一些“岩石”。然而，1969年中俄之间就乌苏里江上的一座小岛所发生的争执，远比这些严重。然而，我一直以来最喜欢的仍然是米特福德在《不要告诉艾弗瑞德》这一书中所讲述的事件，即英法两国就海峡群岛附近的一座无名小岛所发生的暴力争端。
26 楼 yingnamin reply toAnjin-San Sep 27th, 03:31
Ms. Aoi is a WMD (woman of massdestruction) deployed by Japan to kill Chinese seeds.
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苍井“小姐”是日本部署的、具有大规模杀伤性的女人，用来消灭中国人的“种子”。
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原题：Pornography andpatriotism：Can’t we all just get it on?
副标：A Japanese actressreminds her Chinese fans how conflicted they are
中文：色情与爱国主义：我们能使其和睦相处吗？
一个日本女优提醒她的中国粉丝他们是多么的纠结
正文
OFALL the positions with which Sora Aoi has excited her Chinese fans (and therehave been many), this was among the more surprising. As anti-Japanese sentimentflared across China, the former porn star issued an online appeal, in fetchingcalligraphy, for Sino-Japanese friendship. One placard waved at anti-Japaneseprotests over the disputed Senkaku/Diaoyu islands read simply: “the Diaoyuislands belong to China; Sora Aoi belongs to the world.”
在苍井空让其中国粉丝兴奋的所有“姿势”中，这次的“姿势”算是最出人意料的。当反日情绪席卷中国全境之时，往昔的色情明星苍井空在网上现身，以自己迷人的书法大呼“中日友好”。在由于钓鱼岛（尖阁列岛）争议引发的反日游行中，（有人）挥舞着一条读起来很“简洁”的标语：钓鱼岛是中国的；苍井空是世界的。
Thisodd slogan underlines the mixed and often contradictory feelings Chinese peoplecan have about Japan. Brought up to hate it for its historic crimes, they alsoadmire it for being better at some things than China: electronic goods; socialorder; comic books—and pornographic videos. Ms Aoi, unlike her government, hasdone nothing to hurt the feelings of the Chinese people, or at least the youngmen among them. She has more than 13m followers on Sina Weibo, a Chinesemicroblog, and her public appearances have caused near-riots with a rarepro-Japanese slant.
这条古怪的标语表明了中国人对日本所常有的复杂与矛盾的感觉。由于日本对中国所犯的罪行，中国人是在反日教育中长大的。但对日本强于中国的一些方面，中国人民也会表示赞赏，比如电子产品、社会秩序和漫画书，当然了，还有色情电影。苍井“小姐”与日本政府不同，没有做过伤害过中国人民的感情的事，或者至少说，没做过伤害过中国男性青年感情的事。在中国的微博-新浪微博上，关注她的人数已经超过了1300万。她的公开亮相引发了罕见的、几近暴动般的“亲日”骚动。
Herswas not the only cause that hitched its wagon to the demonstrations. Some tookpart for the chance of letting off steam without feeling the sharpend of the police’s anger. Some waved portraits of Chairman Mao, whoin fact was rather insouciant about these inalienable specks of Chinesesovereignty. Most stayed away altogether. Han Han, a writer, racing driver andone of China’s most popular bloggers, called for looters and vandals to bepunished.
苍井空不是唯一一个搭上这次反日游行便车的人。有些人参与游行，只为了借此机会在不受警察干涉的情况，发泄一下。有人挥舞着毛主席的肖像，而实际上肖像上的这个人对中国主权不可分割的这些小岛是漠不关心的。大部分人完全置身此次游行之外。中国作家、赛车手、最受欢迎的博主之一韩寒呼吁，对（此次游行中）抢劫和破坏他人者财产者进行处罚。
MsAoi’s appeal received some sympathetic comments among the 150,000 or so that itattracted. But many of her fans, like the nation as a whole, were fully behindthe protests. Some taunted her with obscene insults and threats. One comment,translated by ChinaSMACK, a website, sought to make the best of things,suggesting that, when it takes back the Diaoyu islands, China should capture MsAoi alive.
苍“小姐”在微博上的这一呼吁，吸引了约15万的评论，其中不乏同情的评论。但大部分苍井空的粉丝，与全中国人民一样，都完全支持反日抗议游行活动。一些回复用下流的侮辱和威胁的言语，来嘲弄她。由ChinaSMACK网站翻译的一条评论试图两全其美：拿下钓鱼岛，活捉苍井空。
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1楼 80 Young ChineseWakeup Sep 21st, 07:49
Have the Economist's editors ever enjoyedher works?:)
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《经济学人》的编辑们喜欢她的作品？
2楼 bumfromk0rea Sep24th, 07:09
"OF ALL the positions with which SoraAoi has excited her Chinese fans (and there have been many), this was among themore surprising."
Best opening of an Economist article ever.
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引用：“在苍井空让其中国粉丝兴奋的所有“姿势”中，这次的“姿势”算是最出人意料的”
这是《经济学人》有史以来最好的文章开头了！
3楼 Will@Moor Sep 21st,14:19
Eroticism and nationalism are... in fact,two easy ways to spend your empty evening.
Nothing to do in weekend? Porno videos, ornationalist forums?
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色情与爱国主义…事实上是最容易打发空虚夜晚的两种方法了。
周末没事干？色情电影，或者爱国主义论坛？
4楼 Kirk Rogers Sep20th, 18:57
I really don't care about the contents butthat headline is a mark of mastery.
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我真的不在乎文章内容，但大标题却深深吸引了我。
5楼 ncbcU783Rz Sep21st, 04:15
The only way Sora Aoi can somehowextinguish the Chinese patriotic "fire" is to shoot her next pornovideo in the disputed islands with a Chinese man as the actor who subjugatesher sexually. Chinese natonalism is highly emotionally charged that can only bealleviated by something equally emotionally charged. Sex and nationalism aresimilar things in terms of irration and fierceness.
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苍井空唯一能平息中国人民爱国主义怒火的某种方法是：选择可以用“性”*“征服”她的中国男演员，在争议岛屿上拍摄一部“爱情动作片”。中国人的爱国主义充满了激情，只能用其他一些充满“激情”的东西来缓和。性和爱国主义，在非理性、强烈这些层面上，是相似的东西。
6楼 Orothenin reply toc3z7JhXSnc Sep 22nd, 20:49
Yes, the Western press should never writeabout China. Instead, it should keep the public entirely ignorant ofwhat occurs in the East.
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是的，西方媒体不应该写关于中国的文章。相反地，它应该让公众完全不知道东方所发生的事。
7 楼 ewakorn Sep 21st,21:18
I have been writing at least half dozenposts about Ms. Sora Aoi, and now Economist finally focused on her.
Ms. Aoi is an icon -- and I have suggestedshe becomes the new Japanese ambassador to China!
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一直以来，我写了至少半打的关于苍井空“小姐”的帖子，现在《经济学人》终于开始关注她了。苍井空是一个偶像，我已经建议让她出任新的驻华大使！
8 楼 aidan Clarke Sep22nd, 10:58
Nationalism is always a refuge forscoundrels. Regardless of where it rears its ugly head.
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爱国主义从来都是流氓恶棍的庇护所，无论它在哪儿出现。
9楼 Missionpeak Sep21st, 16:19
Ms. Aoi comes alive in my dream.
A girl to die for.
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苍井空“小姐”活在我的梦中。梦寐以求的姑娘。
10 楼 Chinese American Sep24th, 18:37
Loved the article. It reminds people thatthere are other things in life than hate. Sex is one of them. Violentprotesters please get laid. Oh no you cannot becausethere is are way less females in the country.
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大爱这篇文章。它提醒人们生活中除了“恨”之外，还有其他东西，性就是其中之一。暴力的抗议者们，请“上床”去吧。对了，你们办不到，因为你们国家的女性比较少！
11 楼supamark Sep 21st,23:47
I wonder if her tentacled co-stars receiveas much fame and adulation... Japanese porn is probably the weirdest around,though the Germans give them a run for their money.
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我在想，与苍井空合作的演员能不能收到像她那么多的名声与奉承。虽然德国人给日本色情电影赚钱的空间，但这些电影可能是世界上最怪异的了。
12 楼 James Hollifieldinreply to gonggabear Sep 24th, 02:37
@Gonggabear, you seemingly do notunderstand the author very well, let alone the western culture.
This article was written for fun, not forserious business.
Enroll in some western college and learn some sense of humor, young man.
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对Gonggabear说：看起来你没能很好的理解本文作者的意图，更别说西方文化了。写这篇文章就图一乐呵，不是为了一些严肃的事。年轻人，选一些西方学校的课，学习一些幽默感吧。
13 楼 aidan clarkeinreply to noseri Sep 22nd, 18:04
I do not "dedicate" my SO toanything, cheerfully or otherwise. We are all free people with independentminds. She is with me for as long as she wants to be with me.
Indeed, the fact that it was your firstchoice to make THAT argument as your retort is perfect proof of my originalpoint.
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我不会为任何事像那样似的献出自己，无论是高兴的事或者相反。我们都是有独立思想的自由人。只要她想和我在一起就可以和我在一起。
实际上，真相是：首选发起那样的争论作为你的反驳，恰恰证明了我原来的观点是完美的。
14 楼 Kyat Drone Sep20th, 16:19
"Ms Aoi’s appeal received somesympathetic comments among the 150,000 or so that it attracted. But many of herfans, like the nation as a whole, were fully behind the protests. Some tauntedher with obscene insults and threats. One comment, translated by ChinaSMACK, awebsite, sought to make the best of things, suggesting that, when it takes backthe Diaoyu islands, China should capture Ms Aoi alive."
Haha I knew The Economist was justregurgitating many articles found in ChinaSMACK.
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引用：“苍“小姐”在微博上的这一呼吁，吸引了约15万的评论，其中不乏同情的评论。但大部分苍井空的粉丝，与全中国人民一样，都完全支持反日抗议游行活动。一些回复用下流的侮辱和威胁的言语，来嘲弄她。由ChinaSMACK网站翻译的一条评论试图两全其美：拿下钓鱼岛，活捉苍井空。”
哈哈。我知道了，原来经济学人过去一直是在机械的引用ChinaSMACK上发现的很多文章啊。
15 楼gonggabear Sep 23rd,17:41
The author seemingly doesn’t understandChinese young men very well, let alone Chinese culture. The slogan "theDiaoyu islands belong to China, Sora Aoi belongs to the world.” is just the wayChinese young men express their sense of humor. They don’t really care aboutthis has-been Japanese porn star. But fortunately Sora Aoi did regainpopularity & came back to the public attention especially in China duringthe conflict between China & Japan.
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作者看起来还不是很了解中国的年轻人，更不要说中国的文化了。标语“钓鱼岛是中国的；苍井空是世界的”仅仅是中国年轻人用来表达其幽默感的方式而已。他们并不真的在乎这位过气的日本色情明星。但苍井空幸运地在中日这场冲突中，重新受到欢迎，回到了公众的视线中，尤其是在中国。
16 楼c3z7JhXSnc Sep 22nd,10:51
Chinese people do not wave such kind ofbanner for their admiration for some aspects of Japan. Because of theflourishing development of porn industry of Japan, how weird it is, Chinesepeople are just making fun of it. Never take it seriously, editors. You don'tknow how silly you're to write such an article. With merely superficialunderstanding of China and it's national conditions, you guys are not in theposition to issue any commentary articles on China in public.
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中国人挥舞那样的标语，并不是为了表达他们对日本某些方面的钦佩。因为日本色情工业的蓬勃发展，看起来很怪异，中国人只是用它来取乐。不要把这个当真，编辑们，你们不知道，仅仅靠对中国肤浅的了解，就写出这样的文章是多么的愚蠢。这是中国的国情，你们不了解这一点，就不要公开发表任何关于中国的评论性文章。
17 楼 Claus Rasmussen Sep22nd, 23:43
I am stupefied by all that crap about TheSilly Islands. The Sora Aoi angle on the story is a most welcome distraction.
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关于这些愚蠢岛屿的废话，使我惊呆了。这一故事中，苍井“天使”很好的分散了我的注意力。
18 楼kchokeith Sep 21st,02:52
It is funny that she is in the Economist!!!
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搞笑的是，她竟然出现在了《经济学人中》！！！
19 楼 kommonsenses Sep22nd, 04:24
it reminds me way back when, an infamous Italianporn star turned member of Italian parliament who offered to offer herself tosaddam hussein in exchange for world peace.
it may not be a proper analogy, but it doesgo to show some artists can be very entrepreneuring.
don't know about this girl aoi sora (neverhear of her, like I have never heard of a guy ai weiwei until TE made a pitchfor him), but if TE wants to name some Japanese female who really commandslarge following and good will in china, I'd nominate Ai Fukuhara, the'porcelian doll' table tennis star from japan loved and respected by so many.
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这让我回想起来，以前有一个有名的意大利色情明星变成意大利议会议员后，主动提出愿意把自己献给萨达姆.侯赛因，以换取世界的和平。
可能这不是一个合适的类比，但它确实可以证明，一些“艺术家”可以是一个倡导者。
不了解苍井空这个姑娘（从来没听说过，就像我从未听说过ai weiwei这个人，直到经济学人为他说好话时），但如果《经济学人》想点出一些“可以支配大批追随者”并对中国怀有善意的日本女性时，我愿意提名福原爱，这个来自日本、受到很多人喜爱与尊敬、有着“瓷娃娃”称号的兵乓球明星。
20 楼 Bismarck888in replyto c3z7JhXSnc Sep 23rd, 01:51
But why don't you criticize the Chinesepress for telling bigger lies.
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但你为什么不批评中国的媒体，撒了如此大的一个谎。
21 楼 c3z7JhXSncin replyto Orothen Sep 23rd, 00:51
The Western press has every right to writeabout China, but what they write must be based on the truth. Seeing is sometimesnot believing. If the press cannot be objective, how can we readers beobjective? The press always serves the government it is for. Theylet we readers see what they want us to see, but not what we want to see. Andwhat I see in the Economist is nothing but criticism and slander of China,never sth about praise or admiration. Their move of trying to demonize China isirresponsible, for themselves, for China and for readers. They mislead readerson the Eastern issues. They keep claiming to take no sides on Sino-Japanissues, but what's the fact? Hypocrisy is the word springing to my mindinstantly.
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西方媒体确是有权力来写关于中国的报道，但他们所写的必须以事实为基础。有时候，眼见不一定为实。如果媒体不能客观性的报道，作为读者的我们如何客观呢？媒体总是为它的政府服务的。他们（指媒体）让我们读者看他们想让我们看的东西，而不是我们自己想要看的东西。我在《经济学人》中所看到只有对中国的批评与诽谤，从来没有关于赞美或赞赏的事。他们试图妖魔化中国的举动对他们自己、对中国和它的读者都是不负责任的。他们在东方问题的上，误导他们的读者。他们总是说不在中日问题上选边站，但事实如何呢？我脑子里马上会冒出“虚伪”这个词。
22 楼 kommonsensesinreply to kommonsenses Sep 22nd, 04:41
'it reminds me way back when, an infamous Italianporn star turned member of Italian parliament who offered to offer herself tosaddam hussein in exchange for world peace.'
I suppose bush never did get the news, lookhow much troubles and lives she could have saved for the world otherwise.
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引用：“这让我回想起来，以前有一个有名的意大利色情明星变成意大利议会议员后，主动提出愿意把自己献给萨达姆.侯赛因，以换取世界的和平。”我猜布什总统从来没有得到这个消息，要不然的话，她可能已经帮世界减少很多麻烦，拯救了很多人的性命。
23 楼 Houshuin reply tobsYyATgYQy Sep 21st, 23:44
You mean Ai Wei Wei(not related, as far as I know), he is also a porn star of some kind...
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你的意思是说Ai Wei Wei，在某种意义上来说，也是一个色情明星…
24 楼 Michael Dunneinreply to 80 Young Chinese Wakeup Sep 21st, 19:41
I am sure to do some background, get a feelfor the story, etc.
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我的确是要做一些背景知识的学习，来更好的了解这一文章。
25 楼 dunnhaupt Sep 22nd,23:56
Another such incident occurred a couple ofyears ago between Canada and Greenland, again over a few mere rocks.Far more dangerous, however, was the 1969 incident between the Chinese and theRussians over a tiny island in the Ussuri River. My all-time favorite, however,is still the incident Nancy Mitford relates in "Don't Tell Alfred"-- a violent dispute between Britain and France over a nameless rock near theChannel Islands.
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两年前，另一与此相似的事件发生在加拿大与格陵兰之间，也仅仅是因为一些“岩石”。然而，1969年中俄之间就乌苏里江上的一座小岛所发生的争执，远比这些严重。然而，我一直以来最喜欢的仍然是米特福德在《不要告诉艾弗瑞德》这一书中所讲述的事件，即英法两国就海峡群岛附近的一座无名小岛所发生的暴力争端。
26 楼 yingnamin reply toAnjin-San Sep 27th, 03:31
Ms. Aoi is a WMD (woman of massdestruction) deployed by Japan to kill Chinese seeds.
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苍井“小姐”是日本部署的、具有大规模杀伤性的女人，用来消灭中国人的“种子”。
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原题：Pornography andpatriotism：Can’t we all just get it on?
副标：A Japanese actressreminds her Chinese fans how conflicted they are
中文：色情与爱国主义：我们能使其和睦相处吗？
一个日本女优提醒她的中国粉丝他们是多么的纠结
正文
OFALL the positions with which Sora Aoi has excited her Chinese fans (and therehave been many), this was among the more surprising. As anti-Japanese sentimentflared across China, the former porn star issued an online appeal, in fetchingcalligraphy, for Sino-Japanese friendship. One placard waved at anti-Japaneseprotests over the disputed Senkaku/Diaoyu islands read simply: “the Diaoyuislands belong to China; Sora Aoi belongs to the world.”
在苍井空让其中国粉丝兴奋的所有“姿势”中，这次的“姿势”算是最出人意料的。当反日情绪席卷中国全境之时，往昔的色情明星苍井空在网上现身，以自己迷人的书法大呼“中日友好”。在由于钓鱼岛（尖阁列岛）争议引发的反日游行中，（有人）挥舞着一条读起来很“简洁”的标语：钓鱼岛是中国的；苍井空是世界的。
Thisodd slogan underlines the mixed and often contradictory feelings Chinese peoplecan have about Japan. Brought up to hate it for its historic crimes, they alsoadmire it for being better at some things than China: electronic goods; socialorder; comic books—and pornographic videos. Ms Aoi, unlike her government, hasdone nothing to hurt the feelings of the Chinese people, or at least the youngmen among them. She has more than 13m followers on Sina Weibo, a Chinesemicroblog, and her public appearances have caused near-riots with a rarepro-Japanese slant.
这条古怪的标语表明了中国人对日本所常有的复杂与矛盾的感觉。由于日本对中国所犯的罪行，中国人是在反日教育中长大的。但对日本强于中国的一些方面，中国人民也会表示赞赏，比如电子产品、社会秩序和漫画书，当然了，还有色情电影。苍井“小姐”与日本政府不同，没有做过伤害过中国人民的感情的事，或者至少说，没做过伤害过中国男性青年感情的事。在中国的微博-新浪微博上，关注她的人数已经超过了1300万。她的公开亮相引发了罕见的、几近暴动般的“亲日”骚动。
Herswas not the only cause that hitched its wagon to the demonstrations. Some tookpart for the chance of letting off steam without feeling the sharpend of the police’s anger. Some waved portraits of Chairman Mao, whoin fact was rather insouciant about these inalienable specks of Chinesesovereignty. Most stayed away altogether. Han Han, a writer, racing driver andone of China’s most popular bloggers, called for looters and vandals to bepunished.
苍井空不是唯一一个搭上这次反日游行便车的人。有些人参与游行，只为了借此机会在不受警察干涉的情况，发泄一下。有人挥舞着毛主席的肖像，而实际上肖像上的这个人对中国主权不可分割的这些小岛是漠不关心的。大部分人完全置身此次游行之外。中国作家、赛车手、最受欢迎的博主之一韩寒呼吁，对（此次游行中）抢劫和破坏他人者财产者进行处罚。
MsAoi’s appeal received some sympathetic comments among the 150,000 or so that itattracted. But many of her fans, like the nation as a whole, were fully behindthe protests. Some taunted her with obscene insults and threats. One comment,translated by ChinaSMACK, a website, sought to make the best of things,suggesting that, when it takes back the Diaoyu islands, China should capture MsAoi alive.
苍“小姐”在微博上的这一呼吁，吸引了约15万的评论，其中不乏同情的评论。但大部分苍井空的粉丝，与全中国人民一样，都完全支持反日抗议游行活动。一些回复用下流的侮辱和威胁的言语，来嘲弄她。由ChinaSMACK网站翻译的一条评论试图两全其美：拿下钓鱼岛，活捉苍井空。
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1楼 80 Young ChineseWakeup Sep 21st, 07:49
Have the Economist's editors ever enjoyedher works?:)
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《经济学人》的编辑们喜欢她的作品？
2楼 bumfromk0rea Sep24th, 07:09
"OF ALL the positions with which SoraAoi has excited her Chinese fans (and there have been many), this was among themore surprising."
Best opening of an Economist article ever.
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引用：“在苍井空让其中国粉丝兴奋的所有“姿势”中，这次的“姿势”算是最出人意料的”
这是《经济学人》有史以来最好的文章开头了！
3楼 Will@Moor Sep 21st,14:19
Eroticism and nationalism are... in fact,two easy ways to spend your empty evening.
Nothing to do in weekend? Porno videos, ornationalist forums?
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色情与爱国主义…事实上是最容易打发空虚夜晚的两种方法了。
周末没事干？色情电影，或者爱国主义论坛？
4楼 Kirk Rogers Sep20th, 18:57
I really don't care about the contents butthat headline is a mark of mastery.
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我真的不在乎文章内容，但大标题却深深吸引了我。
5楼 ncbcU783Rz Sep21st, 04:15
The only way Sora Aoi can somehowextinguish the Chinese patriotic "fire" is to shoot her next pornovideo in the disputed islands with a Chinese man as the actor who subjugatesher sexually. Chinese natonalism is highly emotionally charged that can only bealleviated by something equally emotionally charged. Sex and nationalism aresimilar things in terms of irration and fierceness.
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苍井空唯一能平息中国人民爱国主义怒火的某种方法是：选择可以用“性”*“征服”她的中国男演员，在争议岛屿上拍摄一部“爱情动作片”。中国人的爱国主义充满了激情，只能用其他一些充满“激情”的东西来缓和。性和爱国主义，在非理性、强烈这些层面上，是相似的东西。
6楼 Orothenin reply toc3z7JhXSnc Sep 22nd, 20:49
Yes, the Western press should never writeabout China. Instead, it should keep the public entirely ignorant ofwhat occurs in the East.
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是的，西方媒体不应该写关于中国的文章。相反地，它应该让公众完全不知道东方所发生的事。
7 楼 ewakorn Sep 21st,21:18
I have been writing at least half dozenposts about Ms. Sora Aoi, and now Economist finally focused on her.
Ms. Aoi is an icon -- and I have suggestedshe becomes the new Japanese ambassador to China!
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一直以来，我写了至少半打的关于苍井空“小姐”的帖子，现在《经济学人》终于开始关注她了。苍井空是一个偶像，我已经建议让她出任新的驻华大使！
8 楼 aidan Clarke Sep22nd, 10:58
Nationalism is always a refuge forscoundrels. Regardless of where it rears its ugly head.
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爱国主义从来都是流氓恶棍的庇护所，无论它在哪儿出现。
9楼 Missionpeak Sep21st, 16:19
Ms. Aoi comes alive in my dream.
A girl to die for.
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苍井空“小姐”活在我的梦中。梦寐以求的姑娘。
10 楼 Chinese American Sep24th, 18:37
Loved the article. It reminds people thatthere are other things in life than hate. Sex is one of them. Violentprotesters please get laid. Oh no you cannot becausethere is are way less females in the country.
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大爱这篇文章。它提醒人们生活中除了“恨”之外，还有其他东西，性就是其中之一。暴力的抗议者们，请“上床”去吧。对了，你们办不到，因为你们国家的女性比较少！
11 楼supamark Sep 21st,23:47
I wonder if her tentacled co-stars receiveas much fame and adulation... Japanese porn is probably the weirdest around,though the Germans give them a run for their money.
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我在想，与苍井空合作的演员能不能收到像她那么多的名声与奉承。虽然德国人给日本色情电影赚钱的空间，但这些电影可能是世界上最怪异的了。
12 楼 James Hollifieldinreply to gonggabear Sep 24th, 02:37
@Gonggabear, you seemingly do notunderstand the author very well, let alone the western culture.
This article was written for fun, not forserious business.
Enroll in some western college and learn some sense of humor, young man.
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对Gonggabear说：看起来你没能很好的理解本文作者的意图，更别说西方文化了。写这篇文章就图一乐呵，不是为了一些严肃的事。年轻人，选一些西方学校的课，学习一些幽默感吧。
13 楼 aidan clarkeinreply to noseri Sep 22nd, 18:04
I do not "dedicate" my SO toanything, cheerfully or otherwise. We are all free people with independentminds. She is with me for as long as she wants to be with me.
Indeed, the fact that it was your firstchoice to make THAT argument as your retort is perfect proof of my originalpoint.
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我不会为任何事像那样似的献出自己，无论是高兴的事或者相反。我们都是有独立思想的自由人。只要她想和我在一起就可以和我在一起。
实际上，真相是：首选发起那样的争论作为你的反驳，恰恰证明了我原来的观点是完美的。
14 楼 Kyat Drone Sep20th, 16:19
"Ms Aoi’s appeal received somesympathetic comments among the 150,000 or so that it attracted. But many of herfans, like the nation as a whole, were fully behind the protests. Some tauntedher with obscene insults and threats. One comment, translated by ChinaSMACK, awebsite, sought to make the best of things, suggesting that, when it takes backthe Diaoyu islands, China should capture Ms Aoi alive."
Haha I knew The Economist was justregurgitating many articles found in ChinaSMACK.
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引用：“苍“小姐”在微博上的这一呼吁，吸引了约15万的评论，其中不乏同情的评论。但大部分苍井空的粉丝，与全中国人民一样，都完全支持反日抗议游行活动。一些回复用下流的侮辱和威胁的言语，来嘲弄她。由ChinaSMACK网站翻译的一条评论试图两全其美：拿下钓鱼岛，活捉苍井空。”
哈哈。我知道了，原来经济学人过去一直是在机械的引用ChinaSMACK上发现的很多文章啊。
15 楼gonggabear Sep 23rd,17:41
The author seemingly doesn’t understandChinese young men very well, let alone Chinese culture. The slogan "theDiaoyu islands belong to China, Sora Aoi belongs to the world.” is just the wayChinese young men express their sense of humor. They don’t really care aboutthis has-been Japanese porn star. But fortunately Sora Aoi did regainpopularity & came back to the public attention especially in China duringthe conflict between China & Japan.
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作者看起来还不是很了解中国的年轻人，更不要说中国的文化了。标语“钓鱼岛是中国的；苍井空是世界的”仅仅是中国年轻人用来表达其幽默感的方式而已。他们并不真的在乎这位过气的日本色情明星。但苍井空幸运地在中日这场冲突中，重新受到欢迎，回到了公众的视线中，尤其是在中国。
16 楼c3z7JhXSnc Sep 22nd,10:51
Chinese people do not wave such kind ofbanner for their admiration for some aspects of Japan. Because of theflourishing development of porn industry of Japan, how weird it is, Chinesepeople are just making fun of it. Never take it seriously, editors. You don'tknow how silly you're to write such an article. With merely superficialunderstanding of China and it's national conditions, you guys are not in theposition to issue any commentary articles on China in public.
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中国人挥舞那样的标语，并不是为了表达他们对日本某些方面的钦佩。因为日本色情工业的蓬勃发展，看起来很怪异，中国人只是用它来取乐。不要把这个当真，编辑们，你们不知道，仅仅靠对中国肤浅的了解，就写出这样的文章是多么的愚蠢。这是中国的国情，你们不了解这一点，就不要公开发表任何关于中国的评论性文章。
17 楼 Claus Rasmussen Sep22nd, 23:43
I am stupefied by all that crap about TheSilly Islands. The Sora Aoi angle on the story is a most welcome distraction.
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关于这些愚蠢岛屿的废话，使我惊呆了。这一故事中，苍井“天使”很好的分散了我的注意力。
18 楼kchokeith Sep 21st,02:52
It is funny that she is in the Economist!!!
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搞笑的是，她竟然出现在了《经济学人中》！！！
19 楼 kommonsenses Sep22nd, 04:24
it reminds me way back when, an infamous Italianporn star turned member of Italian parliament who offered to offer herself tosaddam hussein in exchange for world peace.
it may not be a proper analogy, but it doesgo to show some artists can be very entrepreneuring.
don't know about this girl aoi sora (neverhear of her, like I have never heard of a guy ai weiwei until TE made a pitchfor him), but if TE wants to name some Japanese female who really commandslarge following and good will in china, I'd nominate Ai Fukuhara, the'porcelian doll' table tennis star from japan loved and respected by so many.
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这让我回想起来，以前有一个有名的意大利色情明星变成意大利议会议员后，主动提出愿意把自己献给萨达姆.侯赛因，以换取世界的和平。
可能这不是一个合适的类比，但它确实可以证明，一些“艺术家”可以是一个倡导者。
不了解苍井空这个姑娘（从来没听说过，就像我从未听说过ai weiwei这个人，直到经济学人为他说好话时），但如果《经济学人》想点出一些“可以支配大批追随者”并对中国怀有善意的日本女性时，我愿意提名福原爱，这个来自日本、受到很多人喜爱与尊敬、有着“瓷娃娃”称号的兵乓球明星。
20 楼 Bismarck888in replyto c3z7JhXSnc Sep 23rd, 01:51
But why don't you criticize the Chinesepress for telling bigger lies.
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但你为什么不批评中国的媒体，撒了如此大的一个谎。
21 楼 c3z7JhXSncin replyto Orothen Sep 23rd, 00:51
The Western press has every right to writeabout China, but what they write must be based on the truth. Seeing is sometimesnot believing. If the press cannot be objective, how can we readers beobjective? The press always serves the government it is for. Theylet we readers see what they want us to see, but not what we want to see. Andwhat I see in the Economist is nothing but criticism and slander of China,never sth about praise or admiration. Their move of trying to demonize China isirresponsible, for themselves, for China and for readers. They mislead readerson the Eastern issues. They keep claiming to take no sides on Sino-Japanissues, but what's the fact? Hypocrisy is the word springing to my mindinstantly.
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西方媒体确是有权力来写关于中国的报道，但他们所写的必须以事实为基础。有时候，眼见不一定为实。如果媒体不能客观性的报道，作为读者的我们如何客观呢？媒体总是为它的政府服务的。他们（指媒体）让我们读者看他们想让我们看的东西，而不是我们自己想要看的东西。我在《经济学人》中所看到只有对中国的批评与诽谤，从来没有关于赞美或赞赏的事。他们试图妖魔化中国的举动对他们自己、对中国和它的读者都是不负责任的。他们在东方问题的上，误导他们的读者。他们总是说不在中日问题上选边站，但事实如何呢？我脑子里马上会冒出“虚伪”这个词。
22 楼 kommonsensesinreply to kommonsenses Sep 22nd, 04:41
'it reminds me way back when, an infamous Italianporn star turned member of Italian parliament who offered to offer herself tosaddam hussein in exchange for world peace.'
I suppose bush never did get the news, lookhow much troubles and lives she could have saved for the world otherwise.
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引用：“这让我回想起来，以前有一个有名的意大利色情明星变成意大利议会议员后，主动提出愿意把自己献给萨达姆.侯赛因，以换取世界的和平。”我猜布什总统从来没有得到这个消息，要不然的话，她可能已经帮世界减少很多麻烦，拯救了很多人的性命。
23 楼 Houshuin reply tobsYyATgYQy Sep 21st, 23:44
You mean Ai Wei Wei(not related, as far as I know), he is also a porn star of some kind...
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你的意思是说Ai Wei Wei，在某种意义上来说，也是一个色情明星…
24 楼 Michael Dunneinreply to 80 Young Chinese Wakeup Sep 21st, 19:41
I am sure to do some background, get a feelfor the story, etc.
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我的确是要做一些背景知识的学习，来更好的了解这一文章。
25 楼 dunnhaupt Sep 22nd,23:56
Another such incident occurred a couple ofyears ago between Canada and Greenland, again over a few mere rocks.Far more dangerous, however, was the 1969 incident between the Chinese and theRussians over a tiny island in the Ussuri River. My all-time favorite, however,is still the incident Nancy Mitford relates in "Don't Tell Alfred"-- a violent dispute between Britain and France over a nameless rock near theChannel Islands.
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两年前，另一与此相似的事件发生在加拿大与格陵兰之间，也仅仅是因为一些“岩石”。然而，1969年中俄之间就乌苏里江上的一座小岛所发生的争执，远比这些严重。然而，我一直以来最喜欢的仍然是米特福德在《不要告诉艾弗瑞德》这一书中所讲述的事件，即英法两国就海峡群岛附近的一座无名小岛所发生的暴力争端。
26 楼 yingnamin reply toAnjin-San Sep 27th, 03:31
Ms. Aoi is a WMD (woman of massdestruction) deployed by Japan to kill Chinese seeds.
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苍井“小姐”是日本部署的、具有大规模杀伤性的女人，用来消灭中国人的“种子”。
原创翻译：龙腾网 http://www.ltaaa.com 翻译：壤东之子 转载请注明出处
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原题：Pornography andpatriotism：Can’t we all just get it on?
副标：A Japanese actressreminds her Chinese fans how conflicted they are
中文：色情与爱国主义：我们能使其和睦相处吗？
一个日本女优提醒她的中国粉丝他们是多么的纠结
正文
OFALL the positions with which Sora Aoi has excited her Chinese fans (and therehave been many), this was among the more surprising. As anti-Japanese sentimentflared across China, the former porn star issued an online appeal, in fetchingcalligraphy, for Sino-Japanese friendship. One placard waved at anti-Japaneseprotests over the disputed Senkaku/Diaoyu islands read simply: “the Diaoyuislands belong to China; Sora Aoi belongs to the world.”
在苍井空让其中国粉丝兴奋的所有“姿势”中，这次的“姿势”算是最出人意料的。当反日情绪席卷中国全境之时，往昔的色情明星苍井空在网上现身，以自己迷人的书法大呼“中日友好”。在由于钓鱼岛（尖阁列岛）争议引发的反日游行中，（有人）挥舞着一条读起来很“简洁”的标语：钓鱼岛是中国的；苍井空是世界的。
Thisodd slogan underlines the mixed and often contradictory feelings Chinese peoplecan have about Japan. Brought up to hate it for its historic crimes, they alsoadmire it for being better at some things than China: electronic goods; socialorder; comic books—and pornographic videos. Ms Aoi, unlike her government, hasdone nothing to hurt the feelings of the Chinese people, or at least the youngmen among them. She has more than 13m followers on Sina Weibo, a Chinesemicroblog, and her public appearances have caused near-riots with a rarepro-Japanese slant.
这条古怪的标语表明了中国人对日本所常有的复杂与矛盾的感觉。由于日本对中国所犯的罪行，中国人是在反日教育中长大的。但对日本强于中国的一些方面，中国人民也会表示赞赏，比如电子产品、社会秩序和漫画书，当然了，还有色情电影。苍井“小姐”与日本政府不同，没有做过伤害过中国人民的感情的事，或者至少说，没做过伤害过中国男性青年感情的事。在中国的微博-新浪微博上，关注她的人数已经超过了1300万。她的公开亮相引发了罕见的、几近暴动般的“亲日”骚动。
Herswas not the only cause that hitched its wagon to the demonstrations. Some tookpart for the chance of letting off steam without feeling the sharpend of the police’s anger. Some waved portraits of Chairman Mao, whoin fact was rather insouciant about these inalienable specks of Chinesesovereignty. Most stayed away altogether. Han Han, a writer, racing driver andone of China’s most popular bloggers, called for looters and vandals to bepunished.
苍井空不是唯一一个搭上这次反日游行便车的人。有些人参与游行，只为了借此机会在不受警察干涉的情况，发泄一下。有人挥舞着毛主席的肖像，而实际上肖像上的这个人对中国主权不可分割的这些小岛是漠不关心的。大部分人完全置身此次游行之外。中国作家、赛车手、最受欢迎的博主之一韩寒呼吁，对（此次游行中）抢劫和破坏他人者财产者进行处罚。
MsAoi’s appeal received some sympathetic comments among the 150,000 or so that itattracted. But many of her fans, like the nation as a whole, were fully behindthe protests. Some taunted her with obscene insults and threats. One comment,translated by ChinaSMACK, a website, sought to make the best of things,suggesting that, when it takes back the Diaoyu islands, China should capture MsAoi alive.
苍“小姐”在微博上的这一呼吁，吸引了约15万的评论，其中不乏同情的评论。但大部分苍井空的粉丝，与全中国人民一样，都完全支持反日抗议游行活动。一些回复用下流的侮辱和威胁的言语，来嘲弄她。由ChinaSMACK网站翻译的一条评论试图两全其美：拿下钓鱼岛，活捉苍井空。
评论翻译:原创翻译：龙腾网 http://www.ltaaa.com 翻译：壤东之子 转载请注明出处
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以下评论，推荐数排序
1楼 80 Young ChineseWakeup Sep 21st, 07:49
Have the Economist's editors ever enjoyedher works?:)
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《经济学人》的编辑们喜欢她的作品？
2楼 bumfromk0rea Sep24th, 07:09
"OF ALL the positions with which SoraAoi has excited her Chinese fans (and there have been many), this was among themore surprising."
Best opening of an Economist article ever.
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引用：“在苍井空让其中国粉丝兴奋的所有“姿势”中，这次的“姿势”算是最出人意料的”
这是《经济学人》有史以来最好的文章开头了！
3楼 Will@Moor Sep 21st,14:19
Eroticism and nationalism are... in fact,two easy ways to spend your empty evening.
Nothing to do in weekend? Porno videos, ornationalist forums?
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色情与爱国主义…事实上是最容易打发空虚夜晚的两种方法了。
周末没事干？色情电影，或者爱国主义论坛？
4楼 Kirk Rogers Sep20th, 18:57
I really don't care about the contents butthat headline is a mark of mastery.
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我真的不在乎文章内容，但大标题却深深吸引了我。
5楼 ncbcU783Rz Sep21st, 04:15
The only way Sora Aoi can somehowextinguish the Chinese patriotic "fire" is to shoot her next pornovideo in the disputed islands with a Chinese man as the actor who subjugatesher sexually. Chinese natonalism is highly emotionally charged that can only bealleviated by something equally emotionally charged. Sex and nationalism aresimilar things in terms of irration and fierceness.
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苍井空唯一能平息中国人民爱国主义怒火的某种方法是：选择可以用“性”*“征服”她的中国男演员，在争议岛屿上拍摄一部“爱情动作片”。中国人的爱国主义充满了激情，只能用其他一些充满“激情”的东西来缓和。性和爱国主义，在非理性、强烈这些层面上，是相似的东西。
6楼 Orothenin reply toc3z7JhXSnc Sep 22nd, 20:49
Yes, the Western press should never writeabout China. Instead, it should keep the public entirely ignorant ofwhat occurs in the East.
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是的，西方媒体不应该写关于中国的文章。相反地，它应该让公众完全不知道东方所发生的事。
7 楼 ewakorn Sep 21st,21:18
I have been writing at least half dozenposts about Ms. Sora Aoi, and now Economist finally focused on her.
Ms. Aoi is an icon -- and I have suggestedshe becomes the new Japanese ambassador to China!
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一直以来，我写了至少半打的关于苍井空“小姐”的帖子，现在《经济学人》终于开始关注她了。苍井空是一个偶像，我已经建议让她出任新的驻华大使！
8 楼 aidan Clarke Sep22nd, 10:58
Nationalism is always a refuge forscoundrels. Regardless of where it rears its ugly head.
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爱国主义从来都是流氓恶棍的庇护所，无论它在哪儿出现。
9楼 Missionpeak Sep21st, 16:19
Ms. Aoi comes alive in my dream.
A girl to die for.
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苍井空“小姐”活在我的梦中。梦寐以求的姑娘。
10 楼 Chinese American Sep24th, 18:37
Loved the article. It reminds people thatthere are other things in life than hate. Sex is one of them. Violentprotesters please get laid. Oh no you cannot becausethere is are way less females in the country.
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大爱这篇文章。它提醒人们生活中除了“恨”之外，还有其他东西，性就是其中之一。暴力的抗议者们，请“上床”去吧。对了，你们办不到，因为你们国家的女性比较少！
11 楼supamark Sep 21st,23:47
I wonder if her tentacled co-stars receiveas much fame and adulation... Japanese porn is probably the weirdest around,though the Germans give them a run for their money.
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我在想，与苍井空合作的演员能不能收到像她那么多的名声与奉承。虽然德国人给日本色情电影赚钱的空间，但这些电影可能是世界上最怪异的了。
12 楼 James Hollifieldinreply to gonggabear Sep 24th, 02:37
@Gonggabear, you seemingly do notunderstand the author very well, let alone the western culture.
This article was written for fun, not forserious business.
Enroll in some western college and learn some sense of humor, young man.
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对Gonggabear说：看起来你没能很好的理解本文作者的意图，更别说西方文化了。写这篇文章就图一乐呵，不是为了一些严肃的事。年轻人，选一些西方学校的课，学习一些幽默感吧。
13 楼 aidan clarkeinreply to noseri Sep 22nd, 18:04
I do not "dedicate" my SO toanything, cheerfully or otherwise. We are all free people with independentminds. She is with me for as long as she wants to be with me.
Indeed, the fact that it was your firstchoice to make THAT argument as your retort is perfect proof of my originalpoint.
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我不会为任何事像那样似的献出自己，无论是高兴的事或者相反。我们都是有独立思想的自由人。只要她想和我在一起就可以和我在一起。
实际上，真相是：首选发起那样的争论作为你的反驳，恰恰证明了我原来的观点是完美的。
14 楼 Kyat Drone Sep20th, 16:19
"Ms Aoi’s appeal received somesympathetic comments among the 150,000 or so that it attracted. But many of herfans, like the nation as a whole, were fully behind the protests. Some tauntedher with obscene insults and threats. One comment, translated by ChinaSMACK, awebsite, sought to make the best of things, suggesting that, when it takes backthe Diaoyu islands, China should capture Ms Aoi alive."
Haha I knew The Economist was justregurgitating many articles found in ChinaSMACK.
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引用：“苍“小姐”在微博上的这一呼吁，吸引了约15万的评论，其中不乏同情的评论。但大部分苍井空的粉丝，与全中国人民一样，都完全支持反日抗议游行活动。一些回复用下流的侮辱和威胁的言语，来嘲弄她。由ChinaSMACK网站翻译的一条评论试图两全其美：拿下钓鱼岛，活捉苍井空。”
哈哈。我知道了，原来经济学人过去一直是在机械的引用ChinaSMACK上发现的很多文章啊。
15 楼gonggabear Sep 23rd,17:41
The author seemingly doesn’t understandChinese young men very well, let alone Chinese culture. The slogan "theDiaoyu islands belong to China, Sora Aoi belongs to the world.” is just the wayChinese young men express their sense of humor. They don’t really care aboutthis has-been Japanese porn star. But fortunately Sora Aoi did regainpopularity & came back to the public attention especially in China duringthe conflict between China & Japan.
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作者看起来还不是很了解中国的年轻人，更不要说中国的文化了。标语“钓鱼岛是中国的；苍井空是世界的”仅仅是中国年轻人用来表达其幽默感的方式而已。他们并不真的在乎这位过气的日本色情明星。但苍井空幸运地在中日这场冲突中，重新受到欢迎，回到了公众的视线中，尤其是在中国。
16 楼c3z7JhXSnc Sep 22nd,10:51
Chinese people do not wave such kind ofbanner for their admiration for some aspects of Japan. Because of theflourishing development of porn industry of Japan, how weird it is, Chinesepeople are just making fun of it. Never take it seriously, editors. You don'tknow how silly you're to write such an article. With merely superficialunderstanding of China and it's national conditions, you guys are not in theposition to issue any commentary articles on China in public.
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中国人挥舞那样的标语，并不是为了表达他们对日本某些方面的钦佩。因为日本色情工业的蓬勃发展，看起来很怪异，中国人只是用它来取乐。不要把这个当真，编辑们，你们不知道，仅仅靠对中国肤浅的了解，就写出这样的文章是多么的愚蠢。这是中国的国情，你们不了解这一点，就不要公开发表任何关于中国的评论性文章。
17 楼 Claus Rasmussen Sep22nd, 23:43
I am stupefied by all that crap about TheSilly Islands. The Sora Aoi angle on the story is a most welcome distraction.
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关于这些愚蠢岛屿的废话，使我惊呆了。这一故事中，苍井“天使”很好的分散了我的注意力。
18 楼kchokeith Sep 21st,02:52
It is funny that she is in the Economist!!!
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搞笑的是，她竟然出现在了《经济学人中》！！！
19 楼 kommonsenses Sep22nd, 04:24
it reminds me way back when, an infamous Italianporn star turned member of Italian parliament who offered to offer herself tosaddam hussein in exchange for world peace.
it may not be a proper analogy, but it doesgo to show some artists can be very entrepreneuring.
don't know about this girl aoi sora (neverhear of her, like I have never heard of a guy ai weiwei until TE made a pitchfor him), but if TE wants to name some Japanese female who really commandslarge following and good will in china, I'd nominate Ai Fukuhara, the'porcelian doll' table tennis star from japan loved and respected by so many.
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这让我回想起来，以前有一个有名的意大利色情明星变成意大利议会议员后，主动提出愿意把自己献给萨达姆.侯赛因，以换取世界的和平。
可能这不是一个合适的类比，但它确实可以证明，一些“艺术家”可以是一个倡导者。
不了解苍井空这个姑娘（从来没听说过，就像我从未听说过ai weiwei这个人，直到经济学人为他说好话时），但如果《经济学人》想点出一些“可以支配大批追随者”并对中国怀有善意的日本女性时，我愿意提名福原爱，这个来自日本、受到很多人喜爱与尊敬、有着“瓷娃娃”称号的兵乓球明星。
20 楼 Bismarck888in replyto c3z7JhXSnc Sep 23rd, 01:51
But why don't you criticize the Chinesepress for telling bigger lies.
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但你为什么不批评中国的媒体，撒了如此大的一个谎。
21 楼 c3z7JhXSncin replyto Orothen Sep 23rd, 00:51
The Western press has every right to writeabout China, but what they write must be based on the truth. Seeing is sometimesnot believing. If the press cannot be objective, how can we readers beobjective? The press always serves the government it is for. Theylet we readers see what they want us to see, but not what we want to see. Andwhat I see in the Economist is nothing but criticism and slander of China,never sth about praise or admiration. Their move of trying to demonize China isirresponsible, for themselves, for China and for readers. They mislead readerson the Eastern issues. They keep claiming to take no sides on Sino-Japanissues, but what's the fact? Hypocrisy is the word springing to my mindinstantly.
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西方媒体确是有权力来写关于中国的报道，但他们所写的必须以事实为基础。有时候，眼见不一定为实。如果媒体不能客观性的报道，作为读者的我们如何客观呢？媒体总是为它的政府服务的。他们（指媒体）让我们读者看他们想让我们看的东西，而不是我们自己想要看的东西。我在《经济学人》中所看到只有对中国的批评与诽谤，从来没有关于赞美或赞赏的事。他们试图妖魔化中国的举动对他们自己、对中国和它的读者都是不负责任的。他们在东方问题的上，误导他们的读者。他们总是说不在中日问题上选边站，但事实如何呢？我脑子里马上会冒出“虚伪”这个词。
22 楼 kommonsensesinreply to kommonsenses Sep 22nd, 04:41
'it reminds me way back when, an infamous Italianporn star turned member of Italian parliament who offered to offer herself tosaddam hussein in exchange for world peace.'
I suppose bush never did get the news, lookhow much troubles and lives she could have saved for the world otherwise.
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引用：“这让我回想起来，以前有一个有名的意大利色情明星变成意大利议会议员后，主动提出愿意把自己献给萨达姆.侯赛因，以换取世界的和平。”我猜布什总统从来没有得到这个消息，要不然的话，她可能已经帮世界减少很多麻烦，拯救了很多人的性命。
23 楼 Houshuin reply tobsYyATgYQy Sep 21st, 23:44
You mean Ai Wei Wei(not related, as far as I know), he is also a porn star of some kind...
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你的意思是说Ai Wei Wei，在某种意义上来说，也是一个色情明星…
24 楼 Michael Dunneinreply to 80 Young Chinese Wakeup Sep 21st, 19:41
I am sure to do some background, get a feelfor the story, etc.
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我的确是要做一些背景知识的学习，来更好的了解这一文章。
25 楼 dunnhaupt Sep 22nd,23:56
Another such incident occurred a couple ofyears ago between Canada and Greenland, again over a few mere rocks.Far more dangerous, however, was the 1969 incident between the Chinese and theRussians over a tiny island in the Ussuri River. My all-time favorite, however,is still the incident Nancy Mitford relates in "Don't Tell Alfred"-- a violent dispute between Britain and France over a nameless rock near theChannel Islands.
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两年前，另一与此相似的事件发生在加拿大与格陵兰之间，也仅仅是因为一些“岩石”。然而，1969年中俄之间就乌苏里江上的一座小岛所发生的争执，远比这些严重。然而，我一直以来最喜欢的仍然是米特福德在《不要告诉艾弗瑞德》这一书中所讲述的事件，即英法两国就海峡群岛附近的一座无名小岛所发生的暴力争端。
26 楼 yingnamin reply toAnjin-San Sep 27th, 03:31
Ms. Aoi is a WMD (woman of massdestruction) deployed by Japan to kill Chinese seeds.
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苍井“小姐”是日本部署的、具有大规模杀伤性的女人，用来消灭中国人的“种子”。
最后一条很传神来自: Android客户端
苍老师 经济学人 这两个词居然有了耦合