美国人讨论AK47和M16哪种步枪更好?

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AK47和M16哪种步枪更好?
AK-47 Vs. M-16. Which gun is better?
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AK47和M16哪种步枪更好?
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AK-47 Vs. M-16. Which gun is better?

AK47和M16哪种步枪更好?

7DownTown New Orleans7
This is something I always wanted to know.

这是一只困扰我的问题啊。

Lord Ædric Lambert
Best Answer - Chosen by Asker

提问者选出的最佳答案

Both have their advantages

各有优点

The AK-47 is cheaper than the M-16 (or its civillian equivalent, the AR-15).

Ak47比M16便宜(或者说和M16还是AR15那会儿一样平价)

The AK fires a larger calibre round with a bigger powder load for a higher damage potential. But it has more recoil, which affects accuracy in semi- or full-auto firing.

AK有一个更大的射钉弹所以射击的口径更大因此破坏潜力更大。但它反冲更大,从而影响半开火或全自动开火的精确度。(AK47:7.62 x 39mm    M16:5.56 x 51mm)

The AK's ammunition is also plentiful all over the world, whereas anyone carring an M-16 into battle needs a supply chain to keep him in bullets. On site procurement is much easier in a 7.62x39 than in a 5.56 NATO.

AK的弹药在世界各地都充沛,而用M16战斗的话还需要一个子弹的供应链。现场采购AK的7.62x39mm子弹比北约的5.56mm 子弹容易多了。

The AK is less prone to jamming when exposed to dirt, grit, water, etc. I know the modern M-16 is better about this than the Vietnam era models, but they still can't compare to the AK.

AK对于泥土,水和摩擦之类的抗干扰能力强。我知道现代M16抗干扰性能比越战时的模型要好,但仍然难以与AK抗衡。

Look at the Fire-seclector switch. An AK goes from SAFE to FULL AUTO to SEMI AUTO. Depending on which version (infantry has 3 round burst, Army Rangers have full auto) an M-16 goes from SAFE to SEMI AUTO to BURST (or FULL AUTO). The AK is made to throw a lot of lead fast.

注意火力选择开关。AK排列是安全—全自动—半自动。M16则取决于版本(步兵的是三发点射,陆军游骑兵的是全自动),排列是安全—半自动—突发(或全自动)。AK要用掉大量的铅弹。

The M-16 is more accurate, whether firing in single fire, semi-auto, full-auto, or 3 round burst.

无论是单发,半自动,全自动或三发点射,M16都更精确。

Now that I've laid out all that info, here's my answer:

以上信息提供完了,现在是我的回答:

NEITHER.
OR BOTH.
WHATEVER.

I guess I'm trying to say it depends on your application.

我尽量从应用上来给你说。

If you need a gun that's accurate, especially at a distance, the M-16 is the way to go. But bring plenty of ammo (you won't be able to use the enemy's, after all), and keep the gun cleaned. Have a sidearm in case of jamming.

如果你需要一把精确的步枪,尤其是要远程射击的话就选择M16吧。但是要带充足的弹药(毕竟你不可能去用敌人的),保持枪的清洁,最好带一把佩枪以防干扰。

If you want a gun that's reliable, cheap, fires readily available ammo, and can throw a lot of lead fast, you want the AK. Bring lots of ammo, and be ready to pepper your target (since accuracy can be an issue).

如果你想要一把可靠的,便宜的,火力随时可用,弹药充足的步枪而且能射出大量铅弹的步枪,就选择AK吧。带好大量的弹药全部射进目标吧(因为精度是个问题啊)。

If you needed to stop a rhino or gorilla or any large, fierce beast, the AK's larger round would help. For killing a man, both will do the job nicely.

如果你要对付一头犀牛或大猩猩这样的大型的凶猛的野兽,AK的更大的口径能作用更好。如果要杀人的话,俩都可以漂亮搞定。

My personal choice? The M-16 for accuracy, with a shotgun (scoped, with deer slugs) for a back-up weapon in a long-distance fight or shotgun (pistol grip, with 00 buck shot) in a closer/ more urban environment.

我自己的选择呢?为了准确性而选择M16,再加一个(附带瞄准镜,使用鹿弹的)霰弹猎枪作为长距离作战的替补武器或者在更靠近/更多城市的环境用一个(装有握把,使用00号铅弹的)霰弹猎枪。(译注:感谢bstbll的括号翻译~)

(9人顶)

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DJ
Neither is better. You are comparing apples to oranges.

半斤八两。你在拿苹果和橘子对比啊。

Both are fine examples of late 20th Century firearm design, although they are very different in their philosophy and manufacture.

两个都是20世纪后期的优秀枪支典范,即使他们在理念和制造上非常不同。

The AK was designed in the waning days of WWII to fit the demand for a light carbine capable of full or select fire of a medium range 30 caliber round. Although Russians will argue this, it was clearly influenced heavily by the guns Germany had developed like the StG-44.

AK是在二战时期设计来适应的30口径的全自动或选择火力的轻型卡宾枪的需求。虽然俄罗斯人会这么说,但它显然是受到了德国开发的StG-44的很大影响。

It met the requirements of arming a Soviet Army....cheap to produce and simple to understand and maintain. It was never asked to be a super accurate rifle, because it's a mass fire carbine. Reliability is legendary....this was a gun designed to be abused and poorly kept and still usable.

它达到了武装苏联军队的需求...生产便宜而且弄懂和维护都很简单。人们从未想到它会一个非常精准的步枪,因为它是大火力卡宾枪。它的可靠性是个传奇啊...这个枪被设计得来能广泛使用即使保存不善也仍然可用。

The Stoner Armalite rifle, which you know as the M-16 and AR-15, was designed by an aeronautical engineer using advanced engineering and materials. It was it was introduced with a small and very fast .22 caliber round, capable of accuracy out to distances of several hundred yards.

斯通内尔的阿玛利特步枪,也就是你们知道的M16和AR15,它是由一个航空工程师使用先进的工程和材料设计而成的。都知道它小个而且十分快速。22口径,能够精确到几百码的距离。

It is a precisely made rifle that has had a few drawbacks due to being so precise, namely a propensity to jam if dirty and not well maintained, which took some training. Most of the shortcomings were addressed in the first couple of versions and what we have today is a dependable and accurate rifle.

这是一个被精确制作的步枪,正是因为精确才导致了几个缺点,也就是说容易卡壳切不易保养,这还有待提高。大多数的缺点已经在第一组版本里被解决了,所以现在我们拥有的M16是可靠精确的步枪。

The Stoner was by design a very modular system capable of being modified into various configurations and with the ever increasing popularity of this weapon platform, we are seeing an explosion of available options and variants.

斯通内尔被设计成组装式的系统能够被改良成各种配置,而随着这种武器日益流行,我们将会看到可用的选择与其变种产品的激增。

(2人顶)



Jeff W
There have been a lot of good answers here listing various things about one or the other. The simplest thing i can say is that neither is better than the other.

综上所诉,各种理由都被列出来了。我能说出最简单的事就是:对于他们中任何一个来说都不比对方差。

They both have their merits, where one succeeds the other tends to fall short.

他们各有千秋。

Let me just add that the AK-47 was designed more as a machine gun than as a rifle as noted by the selector switch going from safe to auto then to semi auto.

我只想补充的是AK47被设计成  更多的是作为机枪而总非步枪,因为它的火力选择开关是安全—全自动—半自动。

The M16 was more designed as a rifle, selector switch going from safe to semi to full auto.

而M16更多的是被设计为步枪,开关是安全—半自动—全自动。
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StayThirstyMyFriends
In terms of design objective, I'd select the AK-47. It was designed to be a cheap, mass produced, reliable assault rifle. It has totally exceeded on all those objectives...It's been exported to every third world country and / or army. It's a weapon of attrition.

从设计上来说,我会选择AK47.它被设计为一个便宜,可大规模生产的便宜的突击步枪。它已经完全超出了这些目标...它已经被出口到每一个第三世界的国家和/或军队。这是一个武器消耗战。

That said the modern M-16 / M-4 is a reliable, accurate and precise, lightweight rifle for the modern American soldier. True it had some growing pains when it was first introduced, but it's put all that behind it.

这表示现代的M16/M4是可靠的,准确的,精确的,轻量级的为美国士兵服务的步枪。它在初次引入时有一些成长的痛苦,但它已经蜕变。

It maybe a bit underpowered for some cqb situations, but it handles a lot of different situations with good results. I think the next generation (gas piston) models will be even better...If I had to choose, I'd pick the M-16 for combat.

它可能在远距离情况下有些动力不足,但在很多不同的坏境下都有很好的效果。我认为下一代(导气活塞)模型会更好...如果要我选,我会选择M16来战斗。
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Butch C
Generally speaking, both are equal on their own merits. Dakota has never fired an AK and has probably never even seen a real one. They do not jam easily! Their biggest claim to fame is their rugged reliability. If anything the M16 is more prone to jams and failures than the AK is.

一般来说,两个都有优点。达科塔从来没用过AK,可能甚至从未见过一个真的AK。AK不容易卡壳!他们最出名的是耐用的可靠性。比容易卡壳AK永远赢不过M16。

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I own both versions in semi auto.

这两个我都有半自动的版本。
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CURIOUS GEORGE
The AK-47 wins in reliability but the M-16 in accuracy. It would be tied, both have their strengths and weaknesess. But they would be tied.

论可靠性AK47好,但论精确性M16好。他们应该被合体,都有优点和缺点。但是他们一定会被组合。

It depends on what you are looking for. If you want reliability, the AK-47 wins. If you want surgical accuracy, the M-16 will win.

这取决于你的需求。如果你想要可靠性,那肯定选AK47,精确性那就选M16。
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James W
The M-16 is more accurate and lighter. The AK-47 fires a larger caliber bullet which can do more damage, and it is easier to repair, but not accurate at longer distances.

M16更精确更轻。AK47的子弹口径更大所以杀伤力更大而且更容易修复,但远距离时精确度不高。
(8个顶)


Tyler E
AK-47
is cheap to produce has slightly less acuracy and speed but shoots a round about 50% larger than an M-16 fire rate same

AK47生产便宜,比M16的精确度稍微差一点,快速但是相同火力射击口径比M16大百分之五十。

M-16
Ease of use accurate slightly more reliability fire rate same

M16使用精确性差一点,火力更可靠,速度一样。

MY VOTE
AK-47
its all about money and power in urban warfare

我投票给AK47,都是因为钱的问题和城市作战的威力。
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gunplumber_462
Neither. Both. It depends.

都不是,也都是。这要看情况。

They are two different firearms designed to do similar things but under entirely different military doctrines.

他们都是为了相似目的设计的两种不同武器但是基于不同的军事教旨。
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Ian M
Just look at the numbers made and the number of people each has killed.

用死人的数据来说话吧。

The AK-47 wins by a country mile.
AK47甩M16不止一条街。
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delinquet
the M-16 is lighter, more accurate, and has less recoil.

M16更轻,更精确,而且后座力更小。
(2个)AK47和M16哪种步枪更好?
AK-47 Vs. M-16. Which gun is better?
作者:白玉盘 发布日期:2012-08-31 浏览:4682
译文简介:
AK47和M16哪种步枪更好?
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正文翻译:

AK-47 Vs. M-16. Which gun is better?

AK47和M16哪种步枪更好?

7DownTown New Orleans7
This is something I always wanted to know.

这是一只困扰我的问题啊。

Lord Ædric Lambert
Best Answer - Chosen by Asker

提问者选出的最佳答案

Both have their advantages

各有优点

The AK-47 is cheaper than the M-16 (or its civillian equivalent, the AR-15).

Ak47比M16便宜(或者说和M16还是AR15那会儿一样平价)

The AK fires a larger calibre round with a bigger powder load for a higher damage potential. But it has more recoil, which affects accuracy in semi- or full-auto firing.

AK有一个更大的射钉弹所以射击的口径更大因此破坏潜力更大。但它反冲更大,从而影响半开火或全自动开火的精确度。(AK47:7.62 x 39mm    M16:5.56 x 51mm)

The AK's ammunition is also plentiful all over the world, whereas anyone carring an M-16 into battle needs a supply chain to keep him in bullets. On site procurement is much easier in a 7.62x39 than in a 5.56 NATO.

AK的弹药在世界各地都充沛,而用M16战斗的话还需要一个子弹的供应链。现场采购AK的7.62x39mm子弹比北约的5.56mm 子弹容易多了。

The AK is less prone to jamming when exposed to dirt, grit, water, etc. I know the modern M-16 is better about this than the Vietnam era models, but they still can't compare to the AK.

AK对于泥土,水和摩擦之类的抗干扰能力强。我知道现代M16抗干扰性能比越战时的模型要好,但仍然难以与AK抗衡。

Look at the Fire-seclector switch. An AK goes from SAFE to FULL AUTO to SEMI AUTO. Depending on which version (infantry has 3 round burst, Army Rangers have full auto) an M-16 goes from SAFE to SEMI AUTO to BURST (or FULL AUTO). The AK is made to throw a lot of lead fast.

注意火力选择开关。AK排列是安全—全自动—半自动。M16则取决于版本(步兵的是三发点射,陆军游骑兵的是全自动),排列是安全—半自动—突发(或全自动)。AK要用掉大量的铅弹。

The M-16 is more accurate, whether firing in single fire, semi-auto, full-auto, or 3 round burst.

无论是单发,半自动,全自动或三发点射,M16都更精确。

Now that I've laid out all that info, here's my answer:

以上信息提供完了,现在是我的回答:

NEITHER.
OR BOTH.
WHATEVER.

I guess I'm trying to say it depends on your application.

我尽量从应用上来给你说。

If you need a gun that's accurate, especially at a distance, the M-16 is the way to go. But bring plenty of ammo (you won't be able to use the enemy's, after all), and keep the gun cleaned. Have a sidearm in case of jamming.

如果你需要一把精确的步枪,尤其是要远程射击的话就选择M16吧。但是要带充足的弹药(毕竟你不可能去用敌人的),保持枪的清洁,最好带一把佩枪以防干扰。

If you want a gun that's reliable, cheap, fires readily available ammo, and can throw a lot of lead fast, you want the AK. Bring lots of ammo, and be ready to pepper your target (since accuracy can be an issue).

如果你想要一把可靠的,便宜的,火力随时可用,弹药充足的步枪而且能射出大量铅弹的步枪,就选择AK吧。带好大量的弹药全部射进目标吧(因为精度是个问题啊)。

If you needed to stop a rhino or gorilla or any large, fierce beast, the AK's larger round would help. For killing a man, both will do the job nicely.

如果你要对付一头犀牛或大猩猩这样的大型的凶猛的野兽,AK的更大的口径能作用更好。如果要杀人的话,俩都可以漂亮搞定。

My personal choice? The M-16 for accuracy, with a shotgun (scoped, with deer slugs) for a back-up weapon in a long-distance fight or shotgun (pistol grip, with 00 buck shot) in a closer/ more urban environment.

我自己的选择呢?为了准确性而选择M16,再加一个(附带瞄准镜,使用鹿弹的)霰弹猎枪作为长距离作战的替补武器或者在更靠近/更多城市的环境用一个(装有握把,使用00号铅弹的)霰弹猎枪。(译注:感谢bstbll的括号翻译~)

(9人顶)

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DJ
Neither is better. You are comparing apples to oranges.

半斤八两。你在拿苹果和橘子对比啊。

Both are fine examples of late 20th Century firearm design, although they are very different in their philosophy and manufacture.

两个都是20世纪后期的优秀枪支典范,即使他们在理念和制造上非常不同。

The AK was designed in the waning days of WWII to fit the demand for a light carbine capable of full or select fire of a medium range 30 caliber round. Although Russians will argue this, it was clearly influenced heavily by the guns Germany had developed like the StG-44.

AK是在二战时期设计来适应的30口径的全自动或选择火力的轻型卡宾枪的需求。虽然俄罗斯人会这么说,但它显然是受到了德国开发的StG-44的很大影响。

It met the requirements of arming a Soviet Army....cheap to produce and simple to understand and maintain. It was never asked to be a super accurate rifle, because it's a mass fire carbine. Reliability is legendary....this was a gun designed to be abused and poorly kept and still usable.

它达到了武装苏联军队的需求...生产便宜而且弄懂和维护都很简单。人们从未想到它会一个非常精准的步枪,因为它是大火力卡宾枪。它的可靠性是个传奇啊...这个枪被设计得来能广泛使用即使保存不善也仍然可用。

The Stoner Armalite rifle, which you know as the M-16 and AR-15, was designed by an aeronautical engineer using advanced engineering and materials. It was it was introduced with a small and very fast .22 caliber round, capable of accuracy out to distances of several hundred yards.

斯通内尔的阿玛利特步枪,也就是你们知道的M16和AR15,它是由一个航空工程师使用先进的工程和材料设计而成的。都知道它小个而且十分快速。22口径,能够精确到几百码的距离。

It is a precisely made rifle that has had a few drawbacks due to being so precise, namely a propensity to jam if dirty and not well maintained, which took some training. Most of the shortcomings were addressed in the first couple of versions and what we have today is a dependable and accurate rifle.

这是一个被精确制作的步枪,正是因为精确才导致了几个缺点,也就是说容易卡壳切不易保养,这还有待提高。大多数的缺点已经在第一组版本里被解决了,所以现在我们拥有的M16是可靠精确的步枪。

The Stoner was by design a very modular system capable of being modified into various configurations and with the ever increasing popularity of this weapon platform, we are seeing an explosion of available options and variants.

斯通内尔被设计成组装式的系统能够被改良成各种配置,而随着这种武器日益流行,我们将会看到可用的选择与其变种产品的激增。

(2人顶)



Jeff W
There have been a lot of good answers here listing various things about one or the other. The simplest thing i can say is that neither is better than the other.

综上所诉,各种理由都被列出来了。我能说出最简单的事就是:对于他们中任何一个来说都不比对方差。

They both have their merits, where one succeeds the other tends to fall short.

他们各有千秋。

Let me just add that the AK-47 was designed more as a machine gun than as a rifle as noted by the selector switch going from safe to auto then to semi auto.

我只想补充的是AK47被设计成  更多的是作为机枪而总非步枪,因为它的火力选择开关是安全—全自动—半自动。

The M16 was more designed as a rifle, selector switch going from safe to semi to full auto.

而M16更多的是被设计为步枪,开关是安全—半自动—全自动。
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StayThirstyMyFriends
In terms of design objective, I'd select the AK-47. It was designed to be a cheap, mass produced, reliable assault rifle. It has totally exceeded on all those objectives...It's been exported to every third world country and / or army. It's a weapon of attrition.

从设计上来说,我会选择AK47.它被设计为一个便宜,可大规模生产的便宜的突击步枪。它已经完全超出了这些目标...它已经被出口到每一个第三世界的国家和/或军队。这是一个武器消耗战。

That said the modern M-16 / M-4 is a reliable, accurate and precise, lightweight rifle for the modern American soldier. True it had some growing pains when it was first introduced, but it's put all that behind it.

这表示现代的M16/M4是可靠的,准确的,精确的,轻量级的为美国士兵服务的步枪。它在初次引入时有一些成长的痛苦,但它已经蜕变。

It maybe a bit underpowered for some cqb situations, but it handles a lot of different situations with good results. I think the next generation (gas piston) models will be even better...If I had to choose, I'd pick the M-16 for combat.

它可能在远距离情况下有些动力不足,但在很多不同的坏境下都有很好的效果。我认为下一代(导气活塞)模型会更好...如果要我选,我会选择M16来战斗。
(3个顶)


Butch C
Generally speaking, both are equal on their own merits. Dakota has never fired an AK and has probably never even seen a real one. They do not jam easily! Their biggest claim to fame is their rugged reliability. If anything the M16 is more prone to jams and failures than the AK is.

一般来说,两个都有优点。达科塔从来没用过AK,可能甚至从未见过一个真的AK。AK不容易卡壳!他们最出名的是耐用的可靠性。比容易卡壳AK永远赢不过M16。

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I own both versions in semi auto.

这两个我都有半自动的版本。
(5个顶)


CURIOUS GEORGE
The AK-47 wins in reliability but the M-16 in accuracy. It would be tied, both have their strengths and weaknesess. But they would be tied.

论可靠性AK47好,但论精确性M16好。他们应该被合体,都有优点和缺点。但是他们一定会被组合。

It depends on what you are looking for. If you want reliability, the AK-47 wins. If you want surgical accuracy, the M-16 will win.

这取决于你的需求。如果你想要可靠性,那肯定选AK47,精确性那就选M16。
(6个顶)


James W
The M-16 is more accurate and lighter. The AK-47 fires a larger caliber bullet which can do more damage, and it is easier to repair, but not accurate at longer distances.

M16更精确更轻。AK47的子弹口径更大所以杀伤力更大而且更容易修复,但远距离时精确度不高。
(8个顶)


Tyler E
AK-47
is cheap to produce has slightly less acuracy and speed but shoots a round about 50% larger than an M-16 fire rate same

AK47生产便宜,比M16的精确度稍微差一点,快速但是相同火力射击口径比M16大百分之五十。

M-16
Ease of use accurate slightly more reliability fire rate same

M16使用精确性差一点,火力更可靠,速度一样。

MY VOTE
AK-47
its all about money and power in urban warfare

我投票给AK47,都是因为钱的问题和城市作战的威力。
(4个顶)


gunplumber_462
Neither. Both. It depends.

都不是,也都是。这要看情况。

They are two different firearms designed to do similar things but under entirely different military doctrines.

他们都是为了相似目的设计的两种不同武器但是基于不同的军事教旨。
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Ian M
Just look at the numbers made and the number of people each has killed.

用死人的数据来说话吧。

The AK-47 wins by a country mile.
AK47甩M16不止一条街。
(8个顶)


delinquet
the M-16 is lighter, more accurate, and has less recoil.

M16更轻,更精确,而且后座力更小。
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这玩意儿不架空的话要能讨论出结果就见鬼了生产工艺直接影响产品质量,地理环境直接影响使用效果,后勤补给直接影响实际战果
各有所长,看使用环境和人。
m系蛮夷去死,恢复我大正统ak



另外关于枪没人能说话不好,当年被苏联人骂死的stv是德军最受欢迎的战利品之一
AK-47不计成本地改能改到什么程度?我知道东德造和芬兰造的就很好。如果把AK加装皮卡汀尼导轨,和81式一样使用大小气孔,再加上先进的反后座力装置呢?配上新研发的高精度7.62毫米子弹,能和M-16一拼吗?
老用AK-47和M-16比 真的不公平

这两有代差。。。
要比就比普及度,比生产数量。拿着几十年前设计出来的东西比,真不敢苟同。
还是81扛吧
m-16比较娇贵,其他比AK_47强
上战场;首选AK47!!M16只能用来比赛及射杀平民!!
从渊源来看可以把03式当做AK47的终极版来和M16的最新型号对比。

gxw8080 发表于 2012-8-31 16:26
上战场;首选AK47!!M16只能用来比赛及射杀平民!!


还不买火车票么?再不快点赶不上开学了


gxw8080 发表于 2012-8-31 16:26
上战场;首选AK47!!M16只能用来比赛及射杀平民!!


还不买火车票么?再不快点赶不上开学了

兔子红眼了 发表于 2012-8-31 13:36
AK-47不计成本地改能改到什么程度?我知道东德造和芬兰造的就很好。如果把AK加装皮卡汀尼导轨,和81式一样使 ...
M43阉蛋不行,必须得换个上档次的才有戏
清如许 发表于 2012-8-31 16:36
从渊源来看可以把03式当做AK47的终极版来和M16的最新型号对比。
03盯着的是SIG,还真没把老卡放眼里
反正我选AK
沙耶 发表于 2012-8-31 16:39
还不买火车票么?再不快点赶不上开学了
当过兵!开过枪!!看过被爆头滴东东!!小P孩一边XXOO去!!
穿越火线中ak最牛啦
听响声果断AK啊
如果我要是去一个未知气候和地形的地方作战,我必须带一把ak47。美国佬如是说。
想知道枪好不好,要看销量,特别是回头客.
The AK-47 wins by a country mile.
AK47甩M16不止一条街。

神翻译啊
这中文翻译够呛,一多半意思都翻反滴。
看到把jamming翻译成干扰我顿时就满头黑线了~
这http://www.letv.com/player/x1021543.swf?uname=zl000&id=1021543个http://www.letv.com/player/x1021543.swf?uname=zl000&id=1021543真http://www.letv.com/player/x1021543.swf?uname=zl000&id=1021543不http://www.letv.com/player/x1021543.swf?uname=zl000&id=1021543好http://www.letv.com/player/x1021543.swf?uname=zl056&id=1021543比http://www.letv.com/player/x1021543.swf?uname=zl057&id=1021543较,感http://www.letv.com/player/x1021543.swf?uname=zl051&id=1021543觉http://www.letv.com/player/x1021543.swf?uname=zl051&id=1021543AK47略http://www.letv.com/player/x1021543.swf?uname=zl051&id=1021543胜http://www.letv.com/player/x1021543.swf?uname=zl032&id=1021543一http://www.letv.com/player/x1021543.swf?uname=zl032&id=1021543筹http://www.letv.com/player/x1021543.swf?uname=zl032&id=1021543啊
各有优劣呀,具体要看在什么样的战场环境了,要是游击队的话,打死也不会去买M-16的,太娇气,也费银子。这还用得着讨论啊
没仔细看,愚见以为The Stoner 似乎应该翻译为斯通纳步枪为宜。正式文献中都是卡拉什尼科夫和斯通纳并称的啊。
做个比喻,有研究表明极寒气候影响生育,所以47有时射不准但是干的持久;看大洋马的片子,里面大白白经常半路哒拉下来需要来片伟哥才能强硬,一旦药效发作威力惊人。
47对战争的适应性好