Nature就叶诗文事件道歉

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这是一个重大的胜利。在我眼里,不亚于一块金牌。
总结:
1)感谢所有在网上留言还击的同胞,特别是那些用英文且能注意技巧的人。感谢饶毅
老师和他所引用的那几位华人的努力。他们的做法是榜样。他们告诉我们,还击不是为
了宣泄,而是为了在道义上打败对方,并争取在舆论上打败对方(这点目前很难,因为
我们没有话语权)
2)思考:为什么nature能出来反省?WSJ,CNN等就没这个压力呢?

The story’s intention as an Explainer was to examine how science can help
resolve debates over extraordinary performances, not to examine those
performance statistics in detail. Several analyses done by others convinced
us that it was fair to characterize Ye’s performance as ‘anomalous’ — in
the sense that it was statistically unusual. But we acknowledge that the
combination of errors discussed above and the absence of a more detailed
discussion of the statistics (which with hindsight we regret) gave the
impression that we were supporting accusations against her, even though this
was emphatically not our intention. For that, we apologize to our readers
and to Ye Shiwen.
Tim Appenzeller Chief Magazine Editor, Nature
Philip Campbell Editor-in-Chief, Nature
The system does not allow me to post link. Please go to Nature site to read the editor's comment.

这是一个重大的胜利。在我眼里,不亚于一块金牌。
总结:
1)感谢所有在网上留言还击的同胞,特别是那些用英文且能注意技巧的人。感谢饶毅
老师和他所引用的那几位华人的努力。他们的做法是榜样。他们告诉我们,还击不是为
了宣泄,而是为了在道义上打败对方,并争取在舆论上打败对方(这点目前很难,因为
我们没有话语权)
2)思考:为什么nature能出来反省?WSJ,CNN等就没这个压力呢?

The story’s intention as an Explainer was to examine how science can help
resolve debates over extraordinary performances, not to examine those
performance statistics in detail. Several analyses done by others convinced
us that it was fair to characterize Ye’s performance as ‘anomalous’ — in
the sense that it was statistically unusual. But we acknowledge that the
combination of errors discussed above and the absence of a more detailed
discussion of the statistics (which with hindsight we regret) gave the
impression that we were supporting accusations against her, even though this
was emphatically not our intention. For that, we apologize to our readers
and to Ye Shiwen.
Tim Appenzeller Chief Magazine Editor, Nature
Philip Campbell Editor-in-Chief, Nature
道tnd腿。
算是个小胜利吧!
有能耐别道歉,一黑到底试试
道歉就算了,让这家伙嗑药,然后再游泳看看,不淹死你?
道歉有用就不能找警察啦
起作用的是广大中国科学家,NATURE再牛逼,也不敢砸了自己的招牌~
美国人都被查出来一个了,看来是心虚了
NATURE毕竟挂着专业科研的头衔不敢像普通传媒那样厚着脸皮死扛,当然那些科研党在官网死抽丫的功不可没啊
小丑的表现总是先声夺人,然后道貌岸然,再而悲天悯人!神马东西!
WSJ 是哪家媒体 本子的吗
让我想起了国旗什么你懂的
cincinxinxin 发表于 2012-8-7 00:37
WSJ 是哪家媒体 本子的吗
让我想起了国旗什么你懂的
华尔街日报,霉帝的。
时差党和科技宅们的胜利
如今英美的科研投入越来越少,土鳖投得越来越多,NATURE以后还要靠我们的科技宅撑场子呢,为这破事砸了招牌可划不来。
cnmlgbd 发表于 2012-8-6 11:34
NATURE毕竟挂着专业科研的头衔不敢像普通传媒那样厚着脸皮死扛,当然那些科研党在官网死抽丫的功不可没啊{: ...
还在死抗,说啥有些统计分析说明叶的成绩不一般,现在的评论中就在追问到底是哪种分析显示了这一点,要求主编给出具体的数据和分析过程,如果在这个统计方法或者数据上出错,nature作为自然科学研究顶级杂志丑就大发了



2012-08-06 11:49 AM

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Tao Shi said:

    To Tim Appenzeller Chief Magazine Editor, Nature and Philip Campbell Editor-in-Chief, Nature

    I don't understand this sentence. "Several analyses done by others convinced us that it was fair to characterize Ye‘s performance as ‘anomalous‘” in the sense that it was statistically unusual." I wish it was a typo in the word "fair", but maybe not.

    If the editors are convinced that Ye's performance is statistically unusual, would you kindly point out which statistical analysis have convinced you of this anomalous? As a person who has studied, taught and researched on statistics in college for more than 15 years, I see most analysis in comment section pointing to the direction that Ye's performance is not anomalous. You'd better not to regret again on "the absence of a more detailed discussion of the statistics" this time around.

    Tao Shi

看了,态度不错了.nature毕竟不会把自己弄到大众媒体的低水平.
你道歉是一回事,我们接不接受是一回事。