超级军网ZT龙腾 【卫报】投票：是否应该给叶诗文道歉。
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投票：是否应该给叶诗文道歉。
译者：最人
国家：英国
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/commen ... 1#start-of-comments
新闻全文：
99%的网友投给了“应该道歉”选项。
=========================华丽的分割线==========================
网友评论
•The Australian Ian Thorpe explained how he shaved off 5 seconds or so off his times between the ages of 15 and 16, so perhaps it's pretty normal, so I'd say an apology is well over due.
澳洲运动员索普在15,6岁的时候也被迫解释为何成绩那么好，所以，这没什么大不了的，要我说，道歉有点过了。
•When I read about the American coach's comment, I didn't think arrogant West. I thought jealous and unable to accept competition.
当我读到美国教练的评论时，我并没有看到西方人的傲慢，而是无法接受现实的羡慕嫉妒恨。
•No. He doesn't need to make any special apology.
Even though the girl's been cleared, the initial suspicion was fair.
Though if asked about it, I hope Leonard will be gracious.
不，即便这个女孩是清白的，他也没必要特别去道歉，当时的质疑是没问题的，如果莱纳德被采访问及此事，希望他能够表现的亲和一点。
•As I have said countless times over the past few days, what we are seeing is the investment the Chinese team made in the pool in the lead-up to Beijing (Sun Yang being another who has benefited from their investment).
Ye Shiwen is the product of incredible work & scientific selection processes that the China team have been working toward for over a decade.
Her performances simply must be applauded rather than doubted.
If she wasn't Chinese, I am not sure Leonard would have made his comments public.
正如这些天来我一再重复的，我们现在看到的只不过是北京在中国队身上投入了大资金的结果。（孙杨是另一个受益于此的选手）
十年来，中国队一直秉承科学的方式选拔队员，并且投入了大量惊人的工作，叶诗文正是这一切努力的产物。
看着她的表现，我们大可抛开质疑，为她喝彩。
如果她不是中国人，我不确定莱纳德是否还会公开发出那样的评论。
· American coach and executive director of the World Swimming Coaches Association John Leonard
Not any more, hopefully.
约翰莱纳德----美国队教练、世界游泳教练协会执行理事
但愿别有下回了。
•This isn't racist, people accuse white athletes from western nations of doping all the time.
这里没有种族歧视，西方国家也常常指控白人选手。
•Jeez it's already been confirmed (at least by IOC) she is clean.
As for shaving so much time off her personal best, the 15-year old Lithuanian girl actually shaved a higher percentage time off her PB than Ye.
Also:
Ian Thorpe: "I took five seconds off my time in the 400m freestyle from the age of 15 to 16."
Adrian Moorhouse: "At 17, I took four seconds off my best time in the 200m breaststroke"
Ye won the world championships a year ago? Why is it such a surprise?!??!?!
Meilutyte isn't being questioned... there is an increased level of suspicion when it comes to chinese athletes (arguably deserved due to history). Ye absolutely deserves an apology. This reeks of sour grapes.
已经证实了，她确实是清白的（至少国际奥委会这么认为）
要说叶超出自己最好成绩5秒之多，那立陶宛的一个15岁女孩超的更厉害，她超出的百分比甚至高过叶诗文。
还有：
索普：“16岁的时候，我的400米自由泳成绩比15岁时高出5秒之多。”
安德里安.莫尔豪斯：“17岁的时候，我的200米蛙泳成绩超出自己最好纪录4秒。”
叶是不是去年还得过世界冠军？那现在这成绩有什么好奇怪的？！！
Meilutyte并没有被质疑，而大家对中国选手的怀疑程度明显超过其他国家，（或许由于历史原因）。很明显，叶理应得到道歉。一帮酸葡萄！
•Sour grapes from John Leonard as one of his didn't win, hardly sporting either casting aspersions in public about a child's reputation, because she is only 16 - All in all very disgraceful.
酸葡萄的是约翰莱纳德，因为他没赢到比赛，于是在公开场合中伤这个年仅16岁的孩子的声誉。太不光彩了。
•Well, she's either the greatest female swimmer of all time who managed to swim faster over the last 50 than the winner of the mens equivalent race or there is something not right here. I'm still not sure which but he shouldn't have gone public so early.
是的，作为一名伟大的女选手，她确实一贯表现优异，但是在最后50米，竟然比男人游得都快，实在说不过去。我还是对此存疑，不过那个教练不应该在公开场合过早的下结论。
•Yes he should apologise - for being dumb.
He should also apologise for being jealous.
是的，他应该为自己的愚蠢和嫉妒道歉。
•Well done Ye. Let's hope you win another one and are allowed to fully enjoy it without a load of accompanying nonsense
干得好，叶，我们希望你再拿一个冠军，你应该好好享受这一切，不要理会那堆屁话。
•yeah, course he should apologise. very unsportsman-like.
是的，道歉，这是他应该做的。他的做法太没有运动员精神了。
•This story says more about Sino-phobia prevalent among too many in the Anglo-Saxon World.
这个故事再次告诉我们：在盎格鲁-撒克逊世界中，中国式恐惧无处不在。
•Yes, not least from this newspaper.
The editor showed complete lack of competence and tact running the story in the first place, let alone placing it in such a prominent position.
Congrats, anyway. Headlining with an article based entirely hearsay officially puts you in the same category as The Sun and other chip wrapper rags.
是的，这个报纸也该道歉。
这里的编辑从一开始就缺乏妥善报道此事的能力，起初就将质疑的新闻放在了醒目处。
通过道听途说就能将文章放到头条，已经使你们沦为和太阳报一样的破烂媒体了，恭喜你们。
•The anecdotes about how you can improve drastically at a young age are beside the point. It's the split times that raise the obvious suspicion. The last 50 metres just don't seem possible. Beyond astonishing.
那些在年轻时期戏剧般的提升成绩的故事，咱暂且不提。最后的五十秒实在太可疑了，简直是不可能的事情，已经不是惊人的概念了。
•Leonard should apologise to Ye, and her father ought to apologise to the rest of the Western media (because that, according to the link, is who he attacked). The Guardian should apologise to the rest of the West and to Ye's father, for saying that he referred to "the arrogance of the west". According to the link, he didn't. And if he did, then I ought to apologise to the Guardian for not researching more deeply before asking them to apologise.
Hell, why don't we all just apologise?
莱纳德应该给叶道歉，同样，她的父亲也应该给西方媒体道歉。（根据链接的内容，他攻击了某人）。卫报也应该向其他的西方媒体以及叶的父亲道歉，因为卫报说他指责西方人傲慢，然而根据链接内容显示，他并没有那么说过。然而要是他真这么说了，那我就应该为没有深挖事实而向卫报道歉。
该死的，我们干脆一起道歉吧。
•If he is unable to substantiate or get support for his remarks then he must withdraw them and apologise of find another job where he will not be so prominent in sport.Thinking it is no good ,if you cannot prove it .After all the basis of the "tort" of slander in legal terms is an unsubstantiated negative comment.Also all Media who gave story "wings" should apologise ,no one checked the stats .After all the greatest cheat due to drugs was an American sprinter who broke the world record by a" mile{ ridiculous increase in world record .People in glass houses should not throw stones .
如果没有证据，就不要言之凿凿，他应该收回说过的话，并且道歉。然后换个不是那么面向公众的岗位。如果没有证据，光靠想是没有好处的。说白了，这种未经证实的负面评论，在法律上就叫做“恶意诽谤和侵犯他人权利”，同样，那些煽风点火的媒体也应该道歉，根本就没人去关注数据的真实性。事实上，历史上最伟大的一次药物作弊应该是美国人创造的，一个短跑选手却打破了一英里跑步的世界纪录，可笑。那些不老实的人，说别人之前还是先管好自己吧。
http://www.ltaaa.com/bbs/thread-75985-1-1.html新闻标题：
投票：是否应该给叶诗文道歉。
译者：最人
国家：英国
新闻链接：
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commen ... 1#start-of-comments
新闻全文：
99%的网友投给了“应该道歉”选项。
=========================华丽的分割线==========================
网友评论
•The Australian Ian Thorpe explained how he shaved off 5 seconds or so off his times between the ages of 15 and 16, so perhaps it's pretty normal, so I'd say an apology is well over due.
澳洲运动员索普在15,6岁的时候也被迫解释为何成绩那么好，所以，这没什么大不了的，要我说，道歉有点过了。
•When I read about the American coach's comment, I didn't think arrogant West. I thought jealous and unable to accept competition.
当我读到美国教练的评论时，我并没有看到西方人的傲慢，而是无法接受现实的羡慕嫉妒恨。
•No. He doesn't need to make any special apology.
Even though the girl's been cleared, the initial suspicion was fair.
Though if asked about it, I hope Leonard will be gracious.
不，即便这个女孩是清白的，他也没必要特别去道歉，当时的质疑是没问题的，如果莱纳德被采访问及此事，希望他能够表现的亲和一点。
•As I have said countless times over the past few days, what we are seeing is the investment the Chinese team made in the pool in the lead-up to Beijing (Sun Yang being another who has benefited from their investment).
Ye Shiwen is the product of incredible work & scientific selection processes that the China team have been working toward for over a decade.
Her performances simply must be applauded rather than doubted.
If she wasn't Chinese, I am not sure Leonard would have made his comments public.
正如这些天来我一再重复的，我们现在看到的只不过是北京在中国队身上投入了大资金的结果。（孙杨是另一个受益于此的选手）
十年来，中国队一直秉承科学的方式选拔队员，并且投入了大量惊人的工作，叶诗文正是这一切努力的产物。
看着她的表现，我们大可抛开质疑，为她喝彩。
如果她不是中国人，我不确定莱纳德是否还会公开发出那样的评论。
· American coach and executive director of the World Swimming Coaches Association John Leonard
Not any more, hopefully.
约翰莱纳德----美国队教练、世界游泳教练协会执行理事
但愿别有下回了。
•This isn't racist, people accuse white athletes from western nations of doping all the time.
这里没有种族歧视，西方国家也常常指控白人选手。
•Jeez it's already been confirmed (at least by IOC) she is clean.
As for shaving so much time off her personal best, the 15-year old Lithuanian girl actually shaved a higher percentage time off her PB than Ye.
Also:
Ian Thorpe: "I took five seconds off my time in the 400m freestyle from the age of 15 to 16."
Adrian Moorhouse: "At 17, I took four seconds off my best time in the 200m breaststroke"
Ye won the world championships a year ago? Why is it such a surprise?!??!?!
Meilutyte isn't being questioned... there is an increased level of suspicion when it comes to chinese athletes (arguably deserved due to history). Ye absolutely deserves an apology. This reeks of sour grapes.
已经证实了，她确实是清白的（至少国际奥委会这么认为）
要说叶超出自己最好成绩5秒之多，那立陶宛的一个15岁女孩超的更厉害，她超出的百分比甚至高过叶诗文。
还有：
索普：“16岁的时候，我的400米自由泳成绩比15岁时高出5秒之多。”
安德里安.莫尔豪斯：“17岁的时候，我的200米蛙泳成绩超出自己最好纪录4秒。”
叶是不是去年还得过世界冠军？那现在这成绩有什么好奇怪的？！！
Meilutyte并没有被质疑，而大家对中国选手的怀疑程度明显超过其他国家，（或许由于历史原因）。很明显，叶理应得到道歉。一帮酸葡萄！
•Sour grapes from John Leonard as one of his didn't win, hardly sporting either casting aspersions in public about a child's reputation, because she is only 16 - All in all very disgraceful.
酸葡萄的是约翰莱纳德，因为他没赢到比赛，于是在公开场合中伤这个年仅16岁的孩子的声誉。太不光彩了。
•Well, she's either the greatest female swimmer of all time who managed to swim faster over the last 50 than the winner of the mens equivalent race or there is something not right here. I'm still not sure which but he shouldn't have gone public so early.
是的，作为一名伟大的女选手，她确实一贯表现优异，但是在最后50米，竟然比男人游得都快，实在说不过去。我还是对此存疑，不过那个教练不应该在公开场合过早的下结论。
•Yes he should apologise - for being dumb.
He should also apologise for being jealous.
是的，他应该为自己的愚蠢和嫉妒道歉。
•Well done Ye. Let's hope you win another one and are allowed to fully enjoy it without a load of accompanying nonsense
干得好，叶，我们希望你再拿一个冠军，你应该好好享受这一切，不要理会那堆屁话。
•yeah, course he should apologise. very unsportsman-like.
是的，道歉，这是他应该做的。他的做法太没有运动员精神了。
•This story says more about Sino-phobia prevalent among too many in the Anglo-Saxon World.
这个故事再次告诉我们：在盎格鲁-撒克逊世界中，中国式恐惧无处不在。
•Yes, not least from this newspaper.
The editor showed complete lack of competence and tact running the story in the first place, let alone placing it in such a prominent position.
Congrats, anyway. Headlining with an article based entirely hearsay officially puts you in the same category as The Sun and other chip wrapper rags.
是的，这个报纸也该道歉。
这里的编辑从一开始就缺乏妥善报道此事的能力，起初就将质疑的新闻放在了醒目处。
通过道听途说就能将文章放到头条，已经使你们沦为和太阳报一样的破烂媒体了，恭喜你们。
•The anecdotes about how you can improve drastically at a young age are beside the point. It's the split times that raise the obvious suspicion. The last 50 metres just don't seem possible. Beyond astonishing.
那些在年轻时期戏剧般的提升成绩的故事，咱暂且不提。最后的五十秒实在太可疑了，简直是不可能的事情，已经不是惊人的概念了。
•Leonard should apologise to Ye, and her father ought to apologise to the rest of the Western media (because that, according to the link, is who he attacked). The Guardian should apologise to the rest of the West and to Ye's father, for saying that he referred to "the arrogance of the west". According to the link, he didn't. And if he did, then I ought to apologise to the Guardian for not researching more deeply before asking them to apologise.
Hell, why don't we all just apologise?
莱纳德应该给叶道歉，同样，她的父亲也应该给西方媒体道歉。（根据链接的内容，他攻击了某人）。卫报也应该向其他的西方媒体以及叶的父亲道歉，因为卫报说他指责西方人傲慢，然而根据链接内容显示，他并没有那么说过。然而要是他真这么说了，那我就应该为没有深挖事实而向卫报道歉。
该死的，我们干脆一起道歉吧。
•If he is unable to substantiate or get support for his remarks then he must withdraw them and apologise of find another job where he will not be so prominent in sport.Thinking it is no good ,if you cannot prove it .After all the basis of the "tort" of slander in legal terms is an unsubstantiated negative comment.Also all Media who gave story "wings" should apologise ,no one checked the stats .After all the greatest cheat due to drugs was an American sprinter who broke the world record by a" mile{ ridiculous increase in world record .People in glass houses should not throw stones .
如果没有证据，就不要言之凿凿，他应该收回说过的话，并且道歉。然后换个不是那么面向公众的岗位。如果没有证据，光靠想是没有好处的。说白了，这种未经证实的负面评论，在法律上就叫做“恶意诽谤和侵犯他人权利”，同样，那些煽风点火的媒体也应该道歉，根本就没人去关注数据的真实性。事实上，历史上最伟大的一次药物作弊应该是美国人创造的，一个短跑选手却打破了一英里跑步的世界纪录，可笑。那些不老实的人，说别人之前还是先管好自己吧。
http://www.ltaaa.com/bbs/thread-75985-1-1.html
投票：是否应该给叶诗文道歉。
译者：最人
国家：英国
新闻链接：
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commen ... 1#start-of-comments
新闻全文：
99%的网友投给了“应该道歉”选项。
=========================华丽的分割线==========================
网友评论
•The Australian Ian Thorpe explained how he shaved off 5 seconds or so off his times between the ages of 15 and 16, so perhaps it's pretty normal, so I'd say an apology is well over due.
澳洲运动员索普在15,6岁的时候也被迫解释为何成绩那么好，所以，这没什么大不了的，要我说，道歉有点过了。
•When I read about the American coach's comment, I didn't think arrogant West. I thought jealous and unable to accept competition.
当我读到美国教练的评论时，我并没有看到西方人的傲慢，而是无法接受现实的羡慕嫉妒恨。
•No. He doesn't need to make any special apology.
Even though the girl's been cleared, the initial suspicion was fair.
Though if asked about it, I hope Leonard will be gracious.
不，即便这个女孩是清白的，他也没必要特别去道歉，当时的质疑是没问题的，如果莱纳德被采访问及此事，希望他能够表现的亲和一点。
•As I have said countless times over the past few days, what we are seeing is the investment the Chinese team made in the pool in the lead-up to Beijing (Sun Yang being another who has benefited from their investment).
Ye Shiwen is the product of incredible work & scientific selection processes that the China team have been working toward for over a decade.
Her performances simply must be applauded rather than doubted.
If she wasn't Chinese, I am not sure Leonard would have made his comments public.
正如这些天来我一再重复的，我们现在看到的只不过是北京在中国队身上投入了大资金的结果。（孙杨是另一个受益于此的选手）
十年来，中国队一直秉承科学的方式选拔队员，并且投入了大量惊人的工作，叶诗文正是这一切努力的产物。
看着她的表现，我们大可抛开质疑，为她喝彩。
如果她不是中国人，我不确定莱纳德是否还会公开发出那样的评论。
· American coach and executive director of the World Swimming Coaches Association John Leonard
Not any more, hopefully.
约翰莱纳德----美国队教练、世界游泳教练协会执行理事
但愿别有下回了。
•This isn't racist, people accuse white athletes from western nations of doping all the time.
这里没有种族歧视，西方国家也常常指控白人选手。
•Jeez it's already been confirmed (at least by IOC) she is clean.
As for shaving so much time off her personal best, the 15-year old Lithuanian girl actually shaved a higher percentage time off her PB than Ye.
Also:
Ian Thorpe: "I took five seconds off my time in the 400m freestyle from the age of 15 to 16."
Adrian Moorhouse: "At 17, I took four seconds off my best time in the 200m breaststroke"
Ye won the world championships a year ago? Why is it such a surprise?!??!?!
Meilutyte isn't being questioned... there is an increased level of suspicion when it comes to chinese athletes (arguably deserved due to history). Ye absolutely deserves an apology. This reeks of sour grapes.
已经证实了，她确实是清白的（至少国际奥委会这么认为）
要说叶超出自己最好成绩5秒之多，那立陶宛的一个15岁女孩超的更厉害，她超出的百分比甚至高过叶诗文。
还有：
索普：“16岁的时候，我的400米自由泳成绩比15岁时高出5秒之多。”
安德里安.莫尔豪斯：“17岁的时候，我的200米蛙泳成绩超出自己最好纪录4秒。”
叶是不是去年还得过世界冠军？那现在这成绩有什么好奇怪的？！！
Meilutyte并没有被质疑，而大家对中国选手的怀疑程度明显超过其他国家，（或许由于历史原因）。很明显，叶理应得到道歉。一帮酸葡萄！
•Sour grapes from John Leonard as one of his didn't win, hardly sporting either casting aspersions in public about a child's reputation, because she is only 16 - All in all very disgraceful.
酸葡萄的是约翰莱纳德，因为他没赢到比赛，于是在公开场合中伤这个年仅16岁的孩子的声誉。太不光彩了。
•Well, she's either the greatest female swimmer of all time who managed to swim faster over the last 50 than the winner of the mens equivalent race or there is something not right here. I'm still not sure which but he shouldn't have gone public so early.
是的，作为一名伟大的女选手，她确实一贯表现优异，但是在最后50米，竟然比男人游得都快，实在说不过去。我还是对此存疑，不过那个教练不应该在公开场合过早的下结论。
•Yes he should apologise - for being dumb.
He should also apologise for being jealous.
是的，他应该为自己的愚蠢和嫉妒道歉。
•Well done Ye. Let's hope you win another one and are allowed to fully enjoy it without a load of accompanying nonsense
干得好，叶，我们希望你再拿一个冠军，你应该好好享受这一切，不要理会那堆屁话。
•yeah, course he should apologise. very unsportsman-like.
是的，道歉，这是他应该做的。他的做法太没有运动员精神了。
•This story says more about Sino-phobia prevalent among too many in the Anglo-Saxon World.
这个故事再次告诉我们：在盎格鲁-撒克逊世界中，中国式恐惧无处不在。
•Yes, not least from this newspaper.
The editor showed complete lack of competence and tact running the story in the first place, let alone placing it in such a prominent position.
Congrats, anyway. Headlining with an article based entirely hearsay officially puts you in the same category as The Sun and other chip wrapper rags.
是的，这个报纸也该道歉。
这里的编辑从一开始就缺乏妥善报道此事的能力，起初就将质疑的新闻放在了醒目处。
通过道听途说就能将文章放到头条，已经使你们沦为和太阳报一样的破烂媒体了，恭喜你们。
•The anecdotes about how you can improve drastically at a young age are beside the point. It's the split times that raise the obvious suspicion. The last 50 metres just don't seem possible. Beyond astonishing.
那些在年轻时期戏剧般的提升成绩的故事，咱暂且不提。最后的五十秒实在太可疑了，简直是不可能的事情，已经不是惊人的概念了。
•Leonard should apologise to Ye, and her father ought to apologise to the rest of the Western media (because that, according to the link, is who he attacked). The Guardian should apologise to the rest of the West and to Ye's father, for saying that he referred to "the arrogance of the west". According to the link, he didn't. And if he did, then I ought to apologise to the Guardian for not researching more deeply before asking them to apologise.
Hell, why don't we all just apologise?
莱纳德应该给叶道歉，同样，她的父亲也应该给西方媒体道歉。（根据链接的内容，他攻击了某人）。卫报也应该向其他的西方媒体以及叶的父亲道歉，因为卫报说他指责西方人傲慢，然而根据链接内容显示，他并没有那么说过。然而要是他真这么说了，那我就应该为没有深挖事实而向卫报道歉。
该死的，我们干脆一起道歉吧。
•If he is unable to substantiate or get support for his remarks then he must withdraw them and apologise of find another job where he will not be so prominent in sport.Thinking it is no good ,if you cannot prove it .After all the basis of the "tort" of slander in legal terms is an unsubstantiated negative comment.Also all Media who gave story "wings" should apologise ,no one checked the stats .After all the greatest cheat due to drugs was an American sprinter who broke the world record by a" mile{ ridiculous increase in world record .People in glass houses should not throw stones .
如果没有证据，就不要言之凿凿，他应该收回说过的话，并且道歉。然后换个不是那么面向公众的岗位。如果没有证据，光靠想是没有好处的。说白了，这种未经证实的负面评论，在法律上就叫做“恶意诽谤和侵犯他人权利”，同样，那些煽风点火的媒体也应该道歉，根本就没人去关注数据的真实性。事实上，历史上最伟大的一次药物作弊应该是美国人创造的，一个短跑选手却打破了一英里跑步的世界纪录，可笑。那些不老实的人，说别人之前还是先管好自己吧。
http://www.ltaaa.com/bbs/thread-75985-1-1.html新闻标题：
投票：是否应该给叶诗文道歉。
译者：最人
国家：英国
新闻链接：
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commen ... 1#start-of-comments
新闻全文：
99%的网友投给了“应该道歉”选项。
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网友评论
•The Australian Ian Thorpe explained how he shaved off 5 seconds or so off his times between the ages of 15 and 16, so perhaps it's pretty normal, so I'd say an apology is well over due.
澳洲运动员索普在15,6岁的时候也被迫解释为何成绩那么好，所以，这没什么大不了的，要我说，道歉有点过了。
•When I read about the American coach's comment, I didn't think arrogant West. I thought jealous and unable to accept competition.
当我读到美国教练的评论时，我并没有看到西方人的傲慢，而是无法接受现实的羡慕嫉妒恨。
•No. He doesn't need to make any special apology.
Even though the girl's been cleared, the initial suspicion was fair.
Though if asked about it, I hope Leonard will be gracious.
不，即便这个女孩是清白的，他也没必要特别去道歉，当时的质疑是没问题的，如果莱纳德被采访问及此事，希望他能够表现的亲和一点。
•As I have said countless times over the past few days, what we are seeing is the investment the Chinese team made in the pool in the lead-up to Beijing (Sun Yang being another who has benefited from their investment).
Ye Shiwen is the product of incredible work & scientific selection processes that the China team have been working toward for over a decade.
Her performances simply must be applauded rather than doubted.
If she wasn't Chinese, I am not sure Leonard would have made his comments public.
正如这些天来我一再重复的，我们现在看到的只不过是北京在中国队身上投入了大资金的结果。（孙杨是另一个受益于此的选手）
十年来，中国队一直秉承科学的方式选拔队员，并且投入了大量惊人的工作，叶诗文正是这一切努力的产物。
看着她的表现，我们大可抛开质疑，为她喝彩。
如果她不是中国人，我不确定莱纳德是否还会公开发出那样的评论。
· American coach and executive director of the World Swimming Coaches Association John Leonard
Not any more, hopefully.
约翰莱纳德----美国队教练、世界游泳教练协会执行理事
但愿别有下回了。
•This isn't racist, people accuse white athletes from western nations of doping all the time.
这里没有种族歧视，西方国家也常常指控白人选手。
•Jeez it's already been confirmed (at least by IOC) she is clean.
As for shaving so much time off her personal best, the 15-year old Lithuanian girl actually shaved a higher percentage time off her PB than Ye.
Also:
Ian Thorpe: "I took five seconds off my time in the 400m freestyle from the age of 15 to 16."
Adrian Moorhouse: "At 17, I took four seconds off my best time in the 200m breaststroke"
Ye won the world championships a year ago? Why is it such a surprise?!??!?!
Meilutyte isn't being questioned... there is an increased level of suspicion when it comes to chinese athletes (arguably deserved due to history). Ye absolutely deserves an apology. This reeks of sour grapes.
已经证实了，她确实是清白的（至少国际奥委会这么认为）
要说叶超出自己最好成绩5秒之多，那立陶宛的一个15岁女孩超的更厉害，她超出的百分比甚至高过叶诗文。
还有：
索普：“16岁的时候，我的400米自由泳成绩比15岁时高出5秒之多。”
安德里安.莫尔豪斯：“17岁的时候，我的200米蛙泳成绩超出自己最好纪录4秒。”
叶是不是去年还得过世界冠军？那现在这成绩有什么好奇怪的？！！
Meilutyte并没有被质疑，而大家对中国选手的怀疑程度明显超过其他国家，（或许由于历史原因）。很明显，叶理应得到道歉。一帮酸葡萄！
•Sour grapes from John Leonard as one of his didn't win, hardly sporting either casting aspersions in public about a child's reputation, because she is only 16 - All in all very disgraceful.
酸葡萄的是约翰莱纳德，因为他没赢到比赛，于是在公开场合中伤这个年仅16岁的孩子的声誉。太不光彩了。
•Well, she's either the greatest female swimmer of all time who managed to swim faster over the last 50 than the winner of the mens equivalent race or there is something not right here. I'm still not sure which but he shouldn't have gone public so early.
是的，作为一名伟大的女选手，她确实一贯表现优异，但是在最后50米，竟然比男人游得都快，实在说不过去。我还是对此存疑，不过那个教练不应该在公开场合过早的下结论。
•Yes he should apologise - for being dumb.
He should also apologise for being jealous.
是的，他应该为自己的愚蠢和嫉妒道歉。
•Well done Ye. Let's hope you win another one and are allowed to fully enjoy it without a load of accompanying nonsense
干得好，叶，我们希望你再拿一个冠军，你应该好好享受这一切，不要理会那堆屁话。
•yeah, course he should apologise. very unsportsman-like.
是的，道歉，这是他应该做的。他的做法太没有运动员精神了。
•This story says more about Sino-phobia prevalent among too many in the Anglo-Saxon World.
这个故事再次告诉我们：在盎格鲁-撒克逊世界中，中国式恐惧无处不在。
•Yes, not least from this newspaper.
The editor showed complete lack of competence and tact running the story in the first place, let alone placing it in such a prominent position.
Congrats, anyway. Headlining with an article based entirely hearsay officially puts you in the same category as The Sun and other chip wrapper rags.
是的，这个报纸也该道歉。
这里的编辑从一开始就缺乏妥善报道此事的能力，起初就将质疑的新闻放在了醒目处。
通过道听途说就能将文章放到头条，已经使你们沦为和太阳报一样的破烂媒体了，恭喜你们。
•The anecdotes about how you can improve drastically at a young age are beside the point. It's the split times that raise the obvious suspicion. The last 50 metres just don't seem possible. Beyond astonishing.
那些在年轻时期戏剧般的提升成绩的故事，咱暂且不提。最后的五十秒实在太可疑了，简直是不可能的事情，已经不是惊人的概念了。
•Leonard should apologise to Ye, and her father ought to apologise to the rest of the Western media (because that, according to the link, is who he attacked). The Guardian should apologise to the rest of the West and to Ye's father, for saying that he referred to "the arrogance of the west". According to the link, he didn't. And if he did, then I ought to apologise to the Guardian for not researching more deeply before asking them to apologise.
Hell, why don't we all just apologise?
莱纳德应该给叶道歉，同样，她的父亲也应该给西方媒体道歉。（根据链接的内容，他攻击了某人）。卫报也应该向其他的西方媒体以及叶的父亲道歉，因为卫报说他指责西方人傲慢，然而根据链接内容显示，他并没有那么说过。然而要是他真这么说了，那我就应该为没有深挖事实而向卫报道歉。
该死的，我们干脆一起道歉吧。
•If he is unable to substantiate or get support for his remarks then he must withdraw them and apologise of find another job where he will not be so prominent in sport.Thinking it is no good ,if you cannot prove it .After all the basis of the "tort" of slander in legal terms is an unsubstantiated negative comment.Also all Media who gave story "wings" should apologise ,no one checked the stats .After all the greatest cheat due to drugs was an American sprinter who broke the world record by a" mile{ ridiculous increase in world record .People in glass houses should not throw stones .
如果没有证据，就不要言之凿凿，他应该收回说过的话，并且道歉。然后换个不是那么面向公众的岗位。如果没有证据，光靠想是没有好处的。说白了，这种未经证实的负面评论，在法律上就叫做“恶意诽谤和侵犯他人权利”，同样，那些煽风点火的媒体也应该道歉，根本就没人去关注数据的真实性。事实上，历史上最伟大的一次药物作弊应该是美国人创造的，一个短跑选手却打破了一英里跑步的世界纪录，可笑。那些不老实的人，说别人之前还是先管好自己吧。
http://www.ltaaa.com/bbs/thread-75985-1-1.html
嗯，大家打开卫报的链接，顺便投个Yes。
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commen ... 1#start-of-comments
还有一天投票过期。
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commen ... 1#start-of-comments
还有一天投票过期。
我投好了，要他们道歉
为什么投了也是0啊？
继续拿金牌气死这帮家伙是最好的报复。
最后50米比男人有的快也没什么大不了的，女人力量比男人小，可是在水里的阻力也小啊。。
蚊式为什么比兰卡斯特还要快？设计兰卡斯特的肯定是德国特务！
这段写的不错。摆事实，讲道理。
Please use your brain before open your mouth. Learn some mathematics before you "say something".
Look at the data from the official website for London Olympic Games:
Last 50 m of Men’s 400m individual Medley:
Rank 1 LOCHTE Ryan 29.10
Rank 2 PEREIRA Thiago 29.34
Rank 3 HAGINO Kosuke 28.52
Rank 4 PHELPS Michael 28.44
Rank 5 le CLOS Chad 29.28
Rank 6 HORIHATA Yuya 27.87
Rank 7 FRASER-HOLMES Thomas 28.35
Rank 8 MARIN Luca 29.25
And YE Shiwen 28.93
4 players are faster than Ye. Lochte is slow because he don’t need to be faster. He won the gold Medal anyway.
Ye’s total time is 4:28.43, which is much longer than the total time of MARIN Luca 4:14.89, the Rank 8 male player.
The World Record for Women’s 50 Freestyle is 23.73, which is much faster than Ye’s.
Last time, Women’s 400m Medley world record was increased 1.67 second by Stephanie Rice from Australia. This time, the record was increased 1.02 second.
From all above, Ye’s achievement is so normal.
Only thing makes you think it is impossible is that Ye Shiwen is a Chinese, from Asia, and with yellow skin. You are rotten racist.
Please use your brain before open your mouth. Learn some mathematics before you "say something".
Look at the data from the official website for London Olympic Games:
Last 50 m of Men’s 400m individual Medley:
Rank 1 LOCHTE Ryan 29.10
Rank 2 PEREIRA Thiago 29.34
Rank 3 HAGINO Kosuke 28.52
Rank 4 PHELPS Michael 28.44
Rank 5 le CLOS Chad 29.28
Rank 6 HORIHATA Yuya 27.87
Rank 7 FRASER-HOLMES Thomas 28.35
Rank 8 MARIN Luca 29.25
And YE Shiwen 28.93
4 players are faster than Ye. Lochte is slow because he don’t need to be faster. He won the gold Medal anyway.
Ye’s total time is 4:28.43, which is much longer than the total time of MARIN Luca 4:14.89, the Rank 8 male player.
The World Record for Women’s 50 Freestyle is 23.73, which is much faster than Ye’s.
Last time, Women’s 400m Medley world record was increased 1.67 second by Stephanie Rice from Australia. This time, the record was increased 1.02 second.
From all above, Ye’s achievement is so normal.
Only thing makes you think it is impossible is that Ye Shiwen is a Chinese, from Asia, and with yellow skin. You are rotten racist.
叶诗文应该把奥组委的检测结果打印出来甩在那记者身上让他自己看
PS：卫报写的是Ye Shiwen 不是Shiwen Ye ？
PS：卫报写的是Ye Shiwen 不是Shiwen Ye ？
叶诗文应该把奥组委的检测结果打印出来甩在那记者身上让他自己看
PS：卫报写的是Ye Shiwen 不是Shiwen Ye ...
现在都改了好像是从某次习总出访开始的。
PS：卫报写的是Ye Shiwen 不是Shiwen Ye ...
现在都改了好像是从某次习总出访开始的。
ifstar 发表于 2012-8-1 17:58 
最后50米比男人有的快也没什么大不了的，女人力量比男人小，可是在水里的阻力也小啊。。
关键是前面保存了体力，他怎么不说前面350米比罗切特慢这么多呢，搞笑
最后50米比男人有的快也没什么大不了的，女人力量比男人小，可是在水里的阻力也小啊。。
关键是前面保存了体力，他怎么不说前面350米比罗切特慢这么多呢，搞笑